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THE UNIQUE LINK
THE UNIQUE LINK
A person's task none can complete
save man, who links the earth and heights.
His heart's sublime; so are his thoughts,
a work of art of matchless traits.
He has great sympathy and love
whose fabrics just the angels weave.
They knit them of the dew of seas
to form the clouds that quench the trees.
They keep high clouds for sewing clothes.
They make them for the saints to use,
and save the rest for those great mums
whose love is felt in blithesome dreams.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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A person's task none can complete
save man, who links the earth and heights.
His heart's sublime; so are his thoughts,
a work of art of matchless traits.
He has great sympathy and love
whose fabrics just the angels weave.
They knit them of the dew of seas
to form the clouds that quench the trees.
They keep high clouds for sewing clothes.
They make them for the saints to use,
and save the rest for those great mums
whose love is felt in blithesome dreams.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
"A person's task none can complete
save man,"
So persons are not human? But If they are human, then what you are saying is: The only one who can complete a person's task is a person.
What tasks are there
that man cannot complete
since he connects the sky
to earth
though how he is this link
there is in what you write no clue.
Nor is man's love of fabric made
or knit from clouds
by angels up above
and seas do not have dew.
So here's another bit
of twee "profundity"
that's poorly writ
by you.
save man,"
So persons are not human? But If they are human, then what you are saying is: The only one who can complete a person's task is a person.
What tasks are there
that man cannot complete
since he connects the sky
to earth
though how he is this link
there is in what you write no clue.
Nor is man's love of fabric made
or knit from clouds
by angels up above
and seas do not have dew.
So here's another bit
of twee "profundity"
that's poorly writ
by you.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
15th Aug 2022 3:57pm
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15th Aug 2022 5:44pm
A person could be a woman. But to be a member of the species "man" one has to be a person. So is this more of your sexist garbage?
And how does any difference that there might be show that your piece is not another "rhyme at all cost, failed attempt of yours at profundity?
And how does any difference that there might be show that your piece is not another "rhyme at all cost, failed attempt of yours at profundity?
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
15th Aug 2022 6:29pm
If a person and man are similar, why did you say,"Persons are not human." There are intelligent poets who read your writing, Baldwin.
Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
15th Aug 2022 8:37pm
Actually what I said was "So persons are not human?". That is to say, I did not make a statement as you now claim I did.. As the question mark at the end of the sentence you misquote clearly indicates, I asked a question -- of you and if you realized what the import of what you claimed was/ Apparently you lack the intelligence to see this, not to mention to understand and not misread what I wrote.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
15th Aug 2022 9:03pm
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15th Aug 2022 9:21pm
Why? Because you say so? Or do you have evidence that supports your assertion? If you have evidence, produce it.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
"A person's task none can complete"
I hope you realize that you never say what this task is, let alone why it is that it can only be completed by humankind. And no, these things are not stated in the text.
I hope you realize that you never say what this task is, let alone why it is that it can only be completed by humankind. And no, these things are not stated in the text.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
17th Aug 2022 3:04pm
It is very clear in the poem. Man is a link, a unique one, and able to link heaven and the earth. in fact he does so. Mothers on the earth and saints in heaven share the same clothes sewn by angels who are in heaven and make clothes for both saints and mothers.
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17th Aug 2022 4:37pm
So the task is to link heaven and earth? To what end? You seem to be saying in your shift to a different topic from humankind being a unique link between heaven and earth (which still lacks any notation of how "Man" is such or how "Man" forges this link) that it's so mothers and saints may have clothes made by angels out of water vapor? And leaving aside the question of why saints in heaven would need clothes of any kind, why would saints in heaven need "Man" to be the link between earth and heaven to have angels make clothes for them?
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
17th Aug 2022 4:55pm
Unless “Man” links the earth to sky
as “Man” is tasked (by whom?) to do
the saints go naked in the bye and bye
and “mums” on earth
are always starkers too
and therefore liable to grant
all men who happen to catch sight of them
some scintillating mirth..
as “Man” is tasked (by whom?) to do
the saints go naked in the bye and bye
and “mums” on earth
are always starkers too
and therefore liable to grant
all men who happen to catch sight of them
some scintillating mirth..
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
17th Aug 2022 5:12pm
Aren't saints and mothers people representing man? Don't they exist on earth and in heaven? Isn't that a kind of linking? Don't they both wear clothes of purity woven and sewn by angles, made of a pure material, the clouds. Doesn't that show the readers that purity and sanctity join people down and up when they are sinless and pure.
Do l have to explain all that with every poem? Aren't you a poet, and you are supposed to have imagination by yourself and appreciate it by saying a good word? You surprise me Baldwin.
Do l have to explain all that with every poem? Aren't you a poet, and you are supposed to have imagination by yourself and appreciate it by saying a good word? You surprise me Baldwin.
Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
17th Aug 2022 5:57pm
"Don't they both wear clothes of purity woven and sewn by angles, made of a pure material, the clouds. [sic ?]
Leaving aside the fact that you've mispunctuated this question, where might I find a mother who wears clothes made from water vapor? Do you know any mother who does?
And please demonstrate that incorporeal beings need clothes of any kind.
What kind of thread do angels use when they construct the cloud clothes?
How would clothes made from water vapor hold a stitch?
Leaving aside the fact that you've mispunctuated this question, where might I find a mother who wears clothes made from water vapor? Do you know any mother who does?
And please demonstrate that incorporeal beings need clothes of any kind.
What kind of thread do angels use when they construct the cloud clothes?
How would clothes made from water vapor hold a stitch?
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17th Aug 2022 5:58pm
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17th Aug 2022 9:58pm
Whether they are or aren't starkers just for me, your snippy remark does not answer any of my questions.
And wouldn't clothes made out of water vapor be transparent so that even if somehow they did not slide off the body they were placed upon, those who "wore" them would be showing off their private parts?
And wouldn't clothes made out of water vapor be transparent so that even if somehow they did not slide off the body they were placed upon, those who "wore" them would be showing off their private parts?
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
17th Aug 2022 10:32pm
This is the imagination of a person who thinks he is a poet. No wonder your poetry is prosaic.
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18th Aug 2022 2:37pm
I thought you said that I have no imagination.
In any case what "this" is is a legitimate question that is based upon what you said the clothes that are given by angles to "mums" are made of. If anyone's imaginings are to be asserted as absurd, it's the ones that belong to you.
What's your evidence that one could not see through things that are made from water vapor and that water vapor clothes would not slide off of people they were placed upon as shower water does?
In any case what "this" is is a legitimate question that is based upon what you said the clothes that are given by angles to "mums" are made of. If anyone's imaginings are to be asserted as absurd, it's the ones that belong to you.
What's your evidence that one could not see through things that are made from water vapor and that water vapor clothes would not slide off of people they were placed upon as shower water does?
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
18th Aug 2022 3:22pm
Apropo of the way you respond to my remarks with ad hominem instead of actually speaking directly to them with evidence that they are what you say they are.
https://tinyurl.com/4n2tf3hb
https://tinyurl.com/4n2tf3hb
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
18th Aug 2022 6:19pm
I am not going to read your attachment. If you want me to read it, please write it to me in brief. You can see through water vapour clothes as you have no imagination and you write prosaic writings. I see in this kind of clothes something quite different.
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18th Aug 2022 6:48pm
I didn't know that it took imagination to see through anything made from water vapor. I thought it was the fact that water vapor is transparent that allowed one to do so.
What kind of imagination is one supposed to have that would make him/her see that something covered in water vapor would be invisible to sight?
What kind of imagination is one supposed to have that would make him/her see that something covered in water vapor would be invisible to sight?
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18th Aug 2022 7:18pm
This is exactly what l mean when l say you have no imagination, so your writings are prosaic. You can't see what an imaginative poet can see in clothes made of the strong colour of whiteness that the clouds have, namely, purity and cleanness. You have nothing poetic in your mind. You have just a mind that criticises what doesn't fit its lack of imagination. Leave this, and try to write poetic writings that contain some imagination.
Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
But you never said that the clothes that the angels stitch together have the color of "whitenes", which, BTW, is not a color. It's a shade. It does not have a specific wavelength.
And clothes are not made of a color since color has no substance. It is an electromagnetic radiation of a certain range of wavelengths visible to the human eye. They are made of fabrics that have colors.
And not all clouds, especially the ones that are made from "the dew of seas" are white. Moreover, in other cultures white does not symbolize purity. In many Eastern cultures, white is symbolically linked to death and sadness. So saints in heaven who are from Japan who wear white would be showing that they are in mourning.
You can imagine a variety of things. But when you imagine an impossibility or an absurdity and present it as a reality, you make a reader think "this guy's mind is scrambled".
And clothes are not made of a color since color has no substance. It is an electromagnetic radiation of a certain range of wavelengths visible to the human eye. They are made of fabrics that have colors.
And not all clouds, especially the ones that are made from "the dew of seas" are white. Moreover, in other cultures white does not symbolize purity. In many Eastern cultures, white is symbolically linked to death and sadness. So saints in heaven who are from Japan who wear white would be showing that they are in mourning.
You can imagine a variety of things. But when you imagine an impossibility or an absurdity and present it as a reality, you make a reader think "this guy's mind is scrambled".
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
18th Aug 2022 8:36pm
Leaving aside the fact that it is better to write prosaically than to craft nonsense, are you asserting when you say that I write prosaically that my writings have "the style or diction of prose"? If so, please do what you always run from doing when challenged to demonstrate the validity of your claims, and put your money where your mouth is, Show that this is so.
I don't think you can, for after all my submissions are set out in sound meter, they have rhyme, they contain (as yours do not) images and such poetic devices as metaphor and simile, and moreover, they are often cleverly phrased.
And if by "prosaic", you mean " commonplace or dull; matter-of-fact; unimaginative", you are the only person who thinks so. Have a look at the comments I received from people on DUP who, unlike your sycophants, actually know something about what makes a poem well written.
I don't think you can, for after all my submissions are set out in sound meter, they have rhyme, they contain (as yours do not) images and such poetic devices as metaphor and simile, and moreover, they are often cleverly phrased.
And if by "prosaic", you mean " commonplace or dull; matter-of-fact; unimaginative", you are the only person who thinks so. Have a look at the comments I received from people on DUP who, unlike your sycophants, actually know something about what makes a poem well written.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
19th Aug 2022 3:32pm
It has been said
that Man’s the link between
the earth and all the realms above
Why then
does Genesis proclaim
that Man’s attempt to bridge the spacious gap
rhat God had set in his creation days
betwixt
the reaches of the settled firmament
and all the water separated land
that wingless creatures
dwell upon
resulted in the curse
upon the denizens of humankind
that cost them then
the glad ability
to understand each others speech
to find a stable home,
and fast ensured their towering
presumptuous ascents
intended as the means
to grasp divinity
would be perpetually
laid waste?
Is it not so that what
the Bible says about
what links the sky
to bodied Man’s abode
is grounded in
Ha Shem’s and his appointed messengers’
descents?
that Man’s the link between
the earth and all the realms above
Why then
does Genesis proclaim
that Man’s attempt to bridge the spacious gap
rhat God had set in his creation days
betwixt
the reaches of the settled firmament
and all the water separated land
that wingless creatures
dwell upon
resulted in the curse
upon the denizens of humankind
that cost them then
the glad ability
to understand each others speech
to find a stable home,
and fast ensured their towering
presumptuous ascents
intended as the means
to grasp divinity
would be perpetually
laid waste?
Is it not so that what
the Bible says about
what links the sky
to bodied Man’s abode
is grounded in
Ha Shem’s and his appointed messengers’
descents?
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
19th Aug 2022 4:24pm
Very dear Baldwin,
I don't have a clear idea about this subject. I know that Adam and Eve ate from the apple tree of the knowledge of good and evil that God had forbidden to equal God. Unfortunately, I am not an expert at the Old Testament.
I don't have a clear idea about this subject. I know that Adam and Eve ate from the apple tree of the knowledge of good and evil that God had forbidden to equal God. Unfortunately, I am not an expert at the Old Testament.
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19th Aug 2022 5:32pm
The incident I refer to is in Genesis 11 -- which should have been plain -- not Genesis 3. And BTW, Genesis does NOT say that the fruit Eve ate and gave to Adam was an apple, let alone that the tree from which the fruit came was an apple tree. And what you should have written for your sentence to be set out in good English is "not an expert IN the Old Testament".
I note, too, that given how often you misquote it, misuse it, and claim that it says what it plainly does not say, you have no expertise in the New Testament as well.
In any case, thanks for avoiding commenting upon how the Bible does not support your claim that MAN is the link between heaven and earth.
P.S. I'm wondering if you think that this piece of mine is "prosaic"
If you do, please demonstrate that, despite the fact that it is metered, rhymed, and deals with what you consider to be an important subject in fresh language, it is.
I note, too, that given how often you misquote it, misuse it, and claim that it says what it plainly does not say, you have no expertise in the New Testament as well.
In any case, thanks for avoiding commenting upon how the Bible does not support your claim that MAN is the link between heaven and earth.
P.S. I'm wondering if you think that this piece of mine is "prosaic"
If you do, please demonstrate that, despite the fact that it is metered, rhymed, and deals with what you consider to be an important subject in fresh language, it is.
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Re. THE UNIQUE LINK
19th Aug 2022 6:45pm
This is the second time we disagree about EXPERT. It can be AT and IN. You are not more accurate than dictionaries.
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Expert at **doing something**. Expert in **a field of knowledge**.
expert
Word family (noun) expert expertise (adjective) expert ≠ inexpert (adverb) expertly ≠ inexpertly
From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English
ex‧pert1 /ˈekspɜːt $ -ɜːrt/ ●●● S3 W2 AWL noun [countable]
someone who has a special skill or special knowledge of a subject, gained as a result of training or experience
expert on
He’s a world expert on marine mammals.
expert in
an expert in statistics
Examples of expert in a Sentence
Noun
She was an acknowledged expert on child development.
an expert at planning dinner parties
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert
But how predictable you are in responding to my message as if the issue of at or in was the only one I raised there and ignoring the more important ones that showed how uninformed you are
expert
Word family (noun) expert expertise (adjective) expert ≠ inexpert (adverb) expertly ≠ inexpertly
From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English
ex‧pert1 /ˈekspɜːt $ -ɜːrt/ ●●● S3 W2 AWL noun [countable]
someone who has a special skill or special knowledge of a subject, gained as a result of training or experience
expert on
He’s a world expert on marine mammals.
expert in
an expert in statistics
Examples of expert in a Sentence
Noun
She was an acknowledged expert on child development.
an expert at planning dinner parties
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert
But how predictable you are in responding to my message as if the issue of at or in was the only one I raised there and ignoring the more important ones that showed how uninformed you are
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