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ISN'T THAT A PROOF?
ISN'T THAT A PROOF?
My Lord, You taught Your men for just three years,
but could establish what no man can do.
They ate the bread and drank the wine, You changed
Into Yourself to be a complete You.
A person eats Your Sacrament and gets
a Christ through Whom You can instruct and speak.
Those people can achieve Your will on earth,
and each can fulfil Your way to the peak.
These deeds have proved You are the Lord, my God,
Who can perform His work from His great height.
Through miracles You live in lots of men,
and from Your heaven, You can shine Your light.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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My Lord, You taught Your men for just three years,
but could establish what no man can do.
They ate the bread and drank the wine, You changed
Into Yourself to be a complete You.
A person eats Your Sacrament and gets
a Christ through Whom You can instruct and speak.
Those people can achieve Your will on earth,
and each can fulfil Your way to the peak.
These deeds have proved You are the Lord, my God,
Who can perform His work from His great height.
Through miracles You live in lots of men,
and from Your heaven, You can shine Your light.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
____________________________________
Published 28th Mar 2020
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28th Mar 2020 5:59pm
I’d like to see where it is said
within Gospel texts
that Jesus Lord was not “complete”
till he had changed himself
(if that is what he really did
at supper on that Paschal night)
to wine and yeastless bread.
Please tell me if you know
exactly where in John or Mark,
in Matthew or in Luke
this telic notion is set out and on display
and theologically does not deserve rebuke.
.
I’m betting, though, you can’t produce
the evidence I’m asking for today.
Because in claiming what you claim
about the Nazarene’s ontology,
your speaking from your nether head.
within Gospel texts
that Jesus Lord was not “complete”
till he had changed himself
(if that is what he really did
at supper on that Paschal night)
to wine and yeastless bread.
Please tell me if you know
exactly where in John or Mark,
in Matthew or in Luke
this telic notion is set out and on display
and theologically does not deserve rebuke.
.
I’m betting, though, you can’t produce
the evidence I’m asking for today.
Because in claiming what you claim
about the Nazarene’s ontology,
your speaking from your nether head.
28th Mar 2020 6:34pm
THEY ATE THE BREAD AND DRANK THE WINE, YOU CHANGED
INTO YOURSELF TO BE A COMPLETE YOU.
I mean here: They ate the bread and drank the wine, which Christ changed to be completely Christ[ His body and His blood]. Please don't change my meaning. If you don't understand English poetry, at least don't spoil its meaning.
I believe, according to the Catholic Church's teaching, that the HOLY COMMUNION, the Sacrament, is the body and blood of JESUS CHRIST, so that who eats and drinks them becomes one with Him. If you don't believe, at least respect the belief of the others.
INTO YOURSELF TO BE A COMPLETE YOU.
I mean here: They ate the bread and drank the wine, which Christ changed to be completely Christ[ His body and His blood]. Please don't change my meaning. If you don't understand English poetry, at least don't spoil its meaning.
I believe, according to the Catholic Church's teaching, that the HOLY COMMUNION, the Sacrament, is the body and blood of JESUS CHRIST, so that who eats and drinks them becomes one with Him. If you don't believe, at least respect the belief of the others.
28th Mar 2020 6:58pm
I'm not disrespecting the belief in transubstantiation. I'm calling into question whether you have said what you now say you wanted to say You haven't, as you yourself admit by engaging in an explanation of what you were trying to convey.
I eat some bread and drink some wine
over which a priest took time
to speak some magic words,
to render consecrate.
But do these ordinary things
now have a teaching voice
as someone has now claimed?
Well, if they do,
it’s only in my mind.
And if I hear them speak to me
how does this prove
a Jewish man’s divinity?
I’ve heard a lilting voice
that sounded out from trees
and towered bells in rain
that brought me more than once
down to my knees,
transcendence swelling there
beyond compare.
But should I say that being
blessed, caressed, by things of roots
and so elated by bronzed knells
do stand as solid proof
that trees and bells are savior gods?
I’d be a superstitious sod,
incredulous,
to make that claim.
And should I say that the effect
of drinking the fermented product of the vine
is proof that grapes are things divine?
Why not?
The legends state their stamped-out
power to enthuse is caused
by Dionysus’ transformed body
and his essence living in the fruit.
So is there any reason why,
since I have known
first hand the outcome of the Dionysian pledge,
its surety,
to give me glimpses of the bliss
Olympians enjoy,
I shouldn't put my faith in them,
believe them to be true?
For within wine
there's something corporal and real
that needs none of its substance changed
into another ousia
to bring me sacramentally to god
So I proclaim that its dark accidents consumed,
and swirling in one's head,
are much more heavenly
and vocal than any priest blessed bread.
