DUP Published Authors
Ahavati said:
I really admire what you are attempting to do; honestly. In order to grow you're willing to give; and what we give returns ten-fold. I did the same thing when starting a photography business. I went out and photographed events for free until I developed a portfolio. I then began charging, and once I had established clientele, I increased my rates until they were top dollar over a period of two-three years. The organizations I worked with ( County Clubs, United Way, Community Foundation, Arts Council, etc ) didn't mind a slight increase over a period of two-three years. They thought I was worth it, as I had established myself.
I've done the same thing with my graphic design/social networking management business. Once you get the hang of how to build, the business outline is solid on most fronts with very little or zero capital.
What you need to do is develop a portfolio of authors. Design an ad and post it to various writing groups across social networking sites. Don't be manic about it; that reeks more of desperation than excitement to professionals. Just post the ad with the contact information. See what happens there.
Thanks times a million! That is so wise and worth me really meditating on! And I will!
... I was tempted to make a separate post, but let me just say... I value the networking more than the money. I might be the only shmuck who thinks this but I'm a firm believer in the practical value of the gifting economy.
I respect competitive prices, but I've decided against that for my business model. I favor normal to higher prices, but more gifts and wholesaler loyalty.
...And clubs getting group deals.
I really admire what you are attempting to do; honestly. In order to grow you're willing to give; and what we give returns ten-fold. I did the same thing when starting a photography business. I went out and photographed events for free until I developed a portfolio. I then began charging, and once I had established clientele, I increased my rates until they were top dollar over a period of two-three years. The organizations I worked with ( County Clubs, United Way, Community Foundation, Arts Council, etc ) didn't mind a slight increase over a period of two-three years. They thought I was worth it, as I had established myself.
I've done the same thing with my graphic design/social networking management business. Once you get the hang of how to build, the business outline is solid on most fronts with very little or zero capital.
What you need to do is develop a portfolio of authors. Design an ad and post it to various writing groups across social networking sites. Don't be manic about it; that reeks more of desperation than excitement to professionals. Just post the ad with the contact information. See what happens there.
Thanks times a million! That is so wise and worth me really meditating on! And I will!
... I was tempted to make a separate post, but let me just say... I value the networking more than the money. I might be the only shmuck who thinks this but I'm a firm believer in the practical value of the gifting economy.
I respect competitive prices, but I've decided against that for my business model. I favor normal to higher prices, but more gifts and wholesaler loyalty.
...And clubs getting group deals.
EdibleWords said:
Thanks times a million! That is so wise and worth me really meditating on! And I will!
... I was tempted to make a separate post, but let me just say... I value the networking more than the money. I might be the only shmuck who thinks this but I'm a firm believer in the practical value of the gifting economy.
I respect competitive prices, but I've decided against that for my business model. I favor normal to higher prices, but more gifts and wholesaler loyalty.
...And clubs getting group deals.
You can have it all: competitive prices, gifts, and wholesaler loyalty. I support myself as well as barter with many small businesses, not to mention the number of pro bono jobs I do ( particularly for non-profits and the elderly ). There never has to be an either/or in business or relationships; but, particularly business relationships. On the contrary, it's what makes you successful.
Thanks times a million! That is so wise and worth me really meditating on! And I will!
... I was tempted to make a separate post, but let me just say... I value the networking more than the money. I might be the only shmuck who thinks this but I'm a firm believer in the practical value of the gifting economy.
I respect competitive prices, but I've decided against that for my business model. I favor normal to higher prices, but more gifts and wholesaler loyalty.
...And clubs getting group deals.
You can have it all: competitive prices, gifts, and wholesaler loyalty. I support myself as well as barter with many small businesses, not to mention the number of pro bono jobs I do ( particularly for non-profits and the elderly ). There never has to be an either/or in business or relationships; but, particularly business relationships. On the contrary, it's what makes you successful.
I hope it's okay... I found a way to promote DU poetry on Amazon in my story and author page. It's legit, I believe.
https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B07ZH7B8S7
.... Poetry without support is a special torture. So she joined deepundergroundpoetry.com and discovered the writing giants residing there. Suddenly poetry was a protected, exciting adventure!
Edited to add, I hear ya about the mess, Ahavati. I'm terrible, and working on it. Thank you for being so kind and understanding!
https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B07ZH7B8S7
.... Poetry without support is a special torture. So she joined deepundergroundpoetry.com and discovered the writing giants residing there. Suddenly poetry was a protected, exciting adventure!
Edited to add, I hear ya about the mess, Ahavati. I'm terrible, and working on it. Thank you for being so kind and understanding!
EdibleWords said:I hope it's okay... I found a way to promote DU poetry on Amazon in my story and author page. It's legit, I believe.
https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B07ZH7B8S7
No; that's fine. I'm going to get a moderator to hide some of these posts that you failed to consolidate so the thread can be cleaned up a bit.
Thank you for your contributions and best of luck on your book.
https://www.amazon.com/-/e/B07ZH7B8S7
No; that's fine. I'm going to get a moderator to hide some of these posts that you failed to consolidate so the thread can be cleaned up a bit.
Thank you for your contributions and best of luck on your book.
Anonymous
Ahavati, Your creating and administering of this thread is very much appreciated!
SimpleTon / John Garrett Seamons
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Letters from a Psychopath
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Fat The Ripper: A Fat Serial Killer
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Werewolf Cowboys of Wolfdon: The Curse of the Werewolf Queen
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A Good Poem Is Hard To Find: Collection of Poetry #1
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All available on amazon
Letters from a Psychopath
https://www.amazon.com/Letters-Psychopath-John-Garrett-Seamons-ebook/dp/B06XY3H9YH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=John+Garrett+Seamons&qid=1575278927&sr=8-1
Fat The Ripper: A Fat Serial Killer
https://www.amazon.com/Fat-Ripper-Serial-Killer-ebook/dp/B07FJVVY7N/ref=sr_1_5?qid=1575278952&refinements=p_27%3AJohn+Garrett+Seamons&s=digital-text&sr=1-5&text=John+Garrett+Seamons
Robot Petshop in Space: Humans for Sale
https://www.amazon.com/Robot-Petshop-Space-Humans-Power-ebook/dp/B07L5P4YJ5/ref=sr_1_4?qid=1575278988&refinements=p_27%3AJohn+Garrett+Seamons&s=digital-text&sr=1-4&text=John+Garrett+Seamons
Werewolf Cowboys of Wolfdon: The Curse of the Werewolf Queen
https://www.amazon.com/Werewolf-Cowboys-Wolfdon-Curse-Queen-ebook/dp/B07MG7T9VQ/ref=sr_1_3?qid=1575279059&refinements=p_27%3AJohn+Garrett+Seamons&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=John+Garrett+Seamons
A Good Poem Is Hard To Find: Collection of Poetry #1
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Poem-Hard-Find-Collection-ebook/dp/B07N33J9S9/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1575279082&refinements=p_27%3AJohn+Garrett+Seamons&s=digital-text&sr=1-2&text=John+Garrett+Seamons
I published (through Xlibris) "a kiss to die for" in 2011. It is a volume of photos and poems that I have authored.
Xlibris expects me to bear all the marketing costs and then receive a pittance of the income from sales. I have had no income from the publication so far. A digital version was released in 2016, with still no income to me.
Find the original publication here: https://books.google.com.jm/books/about/A_Kiss_to_Die_For.html?id=gLGSMQEACAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y
or here (reduced paperback price): https://www.bookdepository.com/Kiss-Die-for-Clyve-Bowen/9781453584507
The digital version should be available here; the file date limit has, however, expired: https://www.sendspace.com/file/4ytxee
Sincerely
Xlibris expects me to bear all the marketing costs and then receive a pittance of the income from sales. I have had no income from the publication so far. A digital version was released in 2016, with still no income to me.
Find the original publication here: https://books.google.com.jm/books/about/A_Kiss_to_Die_For.html?id=gLGSMQEACAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y
or here (reduced paperback price): https://www.bookdepository.com/Kiss-Die-for-Clyve-Bowen/9781453584507
The digital version should be available here; the file date limit has, however, expired: https://www.sendspace.com/file/4ytxee
Sincerely
cabcool said:I published (through Xlibris) "a kiss to die for" in 2011. It is a volume of photos and poems that I have authored.
Xlibris expects me to bear all the marketing costs and then receive a pittance of the income from sales. I have had no income from the publication so far. A digital version was released in 2016, with still no income to me.
Find the original publication here: https://books.google.com.jm/books/about/A_Kiss_to_Die_For.html?id=gLGSMQEACAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y
or here (reduced paperback price): https://www.bookdepository.com/Kiss-Die-for-Clyve-Bowen/9781453584507
The digital version should be available here; the file date limit has, however, expired: https://www.sendspace.com/file/4ytxee
Sincerely
CabCool, did you sign over the copyright to them? Or, is it print-on-demand and you maintain the copyright?
Xlibris expects me to bear all the marketing costs and then receive a pittance of the income from sales. I have had no income from the publication so far. A digital version was released in 2016, with still no income to me.
Find the original publication here: https://books.google.com.jm/books/about/A_Kiss_to_Die_For.html?id=gLGSMQEACAAJ&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y
or here (reduced paperback price): https://www.bookdepository.com/Kiss-Die-for-Clyve-Bowen/9781453584507
The digital version should be available here; the file date limit has, however, expired: https://www.sendspace.com/file/4ytxee
Sincerely
CabCool, did you sign over the copyright to them? Or, is it print-on-demand and you maintain the copyright?
cabcool said:Print-on-demand, Ahavati.
I am contemplating a legal search on sales.
Thanks for being so quick with a response.
Did your contract outline royalty amounts ( referring to hardcopy and digital )? I really hate to publish this to the directory if you're not receiving royalties. The purpose of this thread is to garner support for DU poets by virtue of their publications. I hate to support a publishing house without it supporting you.
I am contemplating a legal search on sales.
Thanks for being so quick with a response.
Did your contract outline royalty amounts ( referring to hardcopy and digital )? I really hate to publish this to the directory if you're not receiving royalties. The purpose of this thread is to garner support for DU poets by virtue of their publications. I hate to support a publishing house without it supporting you.
I don't remember the details just now, Ahavati. I am looking back through all correspondence to prepare myself to contact the publishers, including asking them to send me a copy of the contract. Meantime, I would not mind if you would remove the links/messages in total that I have posted. on the subject.
Grateful for your guidance.
Yours sincerely
Grateful for your guidance.
Yours sincerely
