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Erotic vs porn  (a rant)

rayheinrich
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"...the decline of artistic vision in the arts..."

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       It's an Escher illusion:
       Decline...
       Increase...

       It all depends on which way you look at it.
 
       Or, as Kurt said:

       "Big brains lie!"


Danii
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Thats an innapropriate image Ray! LOL

rayheinrich
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  OMG! It IS green.

  Quick, hide the impressionable!


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And don't be a smart-ass and report it...
"When correctly viewed, everything is lewd." - Tom Lehrer
From his song "Smut": http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tom+lehrer/smut_20138398.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzmtYkPCQgg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer

Devilish
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Erotica!!!!
Tragically beautiful.
a beauty queen...
 
Pin up.
and poster me.
 
Tongue tied
and twisted..
 
Ass
backed
up
against it..
.
.
.
Mirrored angles
while you
tangle
and mangle me
 
Saturated...
 i'm soaked
while you choke
 
on
.
.
Form fitting
and face down...
tied up
gagged and bound..
 
Crown me
elusive..
.
.
Sharp shooting..
 
Intruding..
 
Consuming..
 
i'm losing it...
 
touch me
tease me
kiss me
please me
 
Give it to me
 
Just
.
Like
.
That...
 
Then..
 
 
CuM iNside Me..


Devilish
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Porn!!!
BirthDay SeX...
Come here lil nikki..  
Lets poster paint in sticky..
Wet and wild.  
Your my jewel  
of the sweetest style..
 
Gonna take you to another place..
 
As I lay down..  
Come sit on my face..
 
The taste of jaded pussy  
drives me crazy..
 
Its your birthday my love..  
So  
"Turn around and bend down" ..
 
You smell the candles..
 
Hot wax. Can you handle..  
it?.
 
Why don't you come out of them clothes..
Get your ass on this bed and lets
Fuck like dogs..  
 
Put your face in this pilow  
back that body up...
As I slide my fingers inside  
I'll get to taste that nut..  
 
Happy Birthday to you ..  
What did you think i would do..
if given the chance to romance  
the prettiest pussy..

Devilish
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Erotica has class..Porn has ass.. We all do it in some form or another . Presentation verses masterbation.. do I wanna read erotica cause i want a soft nut tonight or do I wanna read porn cause i'm feeling frisky The beauty of difference is what makes poetry an art.. how you spill it is what sets it apart.

poet Anonymous

'Erotica has class. Porn has ass.'

Well. There's my epitaph

poet Anonymous

I can totally understand the frustration of reading a 'wham, bam, fuck you hard, man' poem. Ok there's not a lot of class in it, and I'll happily admit that 99% poems of this sort are from naive inexperienced people who just want to write something that they think is dirty.

I like to think my erotica is classy. 99% of the time.

Just because I write erotica sometimes however, doesn't mean I want to read every body else's. The writing is there for my expression of how I was feeling at the time. It doesn't matter how it is perceived by other people.

bennyroberts
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I think erotica should always be "show, don't tell" - this is why it's always a richer read. The porn poems I've read on here are generally very graphic and don't really abide by the "show, don't tell" rule. However, I find the porn poem's pretty sexy and if it elicits a response from me then it's got worth.

poet Anonymous

Erotica by far.. it takes much more skill to detail a poem of making love to a woman than meaningless fornication with her.

bennyroberts
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I think erotica can tackle 'meaningless fornication', but it's to do with the language used to convey this.

Indie
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bennyroberts said:I think erotica should always be "show, don't tell" - this is why it's always a richer read. The porn poems I've read on here are generally very graphic and don't really abide by the "show, don't tell" rule. However, I find the porn poem's pretty sexy and if it elicits a response from me then it's got worth.
100% agree with you here. There is too much tell and not enough show. Erotica isn't a recipe for sex it's an expression of a feeling or a moment or both.

Porn has it's place as well, and while I don't want to read it, if other people do, more power to them. Depends what you're looking for (I will however continue to whinge that porn is not erotica, just because I can, and because like I said earlier, I'm an erotica purist) :p

Tallen
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Betty said:So, in my last stint as a poet, things were different. It was years ago, and the renegades with whom I ran all had one goal: World Domination. But that took panache back then.

I have to say the deconstruction of the art of erotic kinda makes me feel... arrogant and pissed off.

Because erotica isn't an art anymore, it seems, it's just porn. (Trust me, I read enough porn to know.)

Lick that pussy, fuck that cunt, smack that cock on her face. Yeah. That's art.

That's art?

My. Ass.

Humanities degree here, I call bullshit. Drunks at an art fest write that shit on porta-potty walls, and it has better spelling, punctuation and grammar.

What really turns you on more, a playmate with her junk hanging out in a centerfold spreading her lips for anyone?

Or a single woman, the one you want,  with her bare back turned to you, looking over her shoulder with a secret I-need-you-in-me-now look in her eyes?

I don't know. My gang worked for years on the act of a single image, a single story, making the objects of our desire breathless and begging without ever going all the way. (In public.)

The longing, the yearning, the room to imagine... it causes that dark, hollow, haunted feeling in your core that is fucking delicious when served with a side of skin-flashing...

It's style.

After spending some time in the erotic folder, I really feel like an arrogant shet-bag. Because I'm not seeing any fucking style. I'm just seeing fucking.

Freedom of expression can be abused. Fortunately, we all have the right to look like total assholes. (I'm exercising mine right now!)  I think there's a lot of asshole-poetry going on with people holding the freedom cards over their heads.

So, am I from a dead generation? Did things change so very much in seven years? Am I antiquated?

What the hell happened?

(This may be the first. time. ever. in my life that I am at risk of being dubbed a prude.)


Kind of agree.......

It would explain why when I spilled an erotic puddle and included the soft under belly of a
slug in my spill
one reader said they would not ever forget
that.

Ahavati
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Tallen said:

Kind of agree.......

It would explain why when I spilled an erotic puddle and included the soft under belly of a
slug in my spill
one reader said they would not ever forget
that.


Oh oh oh! Slugs! You MUST read  Sharon Olds' The Connoisseur of Slugs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/russellboyle.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/the-connoisseur-of-slugs-by-sharon-olds/amp/

Now THAT's erotic.

Tallen
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Ahavati said:

Oh oh oh! Slugs! You MUST read  Sharon Olds' The Connoisseur of Slugs.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/russellboyle.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/the-connoisseur-of-slugs-by-sharon-olds/amp/

Now THAT's erotic.


Just now read it and LOVED it!!
many thanx for the read  

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