Corona Time
drone said:Presumed Covid-19’: NYC corona deaths suddenly soar past 10,000 after more than 3,700 victims added to list on PROBABLE grounds
Coronavirus deaths in New York City have spiked by more than 3,700 after officials tacked on a group of victims merely suspected of having the virus. The city joins a growing list of sites counting “probable” cases as infected.
The additional deaths – 3,778, to be exact – include people who are “presumed to have been infected because of their symptoms and medical history,” according to two sources cited by the New York Times, which reported the deaths on Tuesday. These “probables” bring the total number of casualties for New York City to 10,367 and raise the nation’s total death toll by a whopping 17 percent. Over 26,000 people are now considered to have died with the coronavirus in the US, according to the Times.
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio had initially declined to include the “probables” as coronavirus deaths but reportedly changed his mind after a weekend briefing, the sources said, adding that most of the presumed deaths took place in hospitals. While New York has tested more people per capita for coronavirus than anywhere else in the US, it joins several other sites – city health commissioner Oxiris Barbot named Connecticut, Ohio, Maryland, and Delaware – that began reporting “probable” cases as coronavirus deaths this week. Other sites, including California and Seattle, have limited their casualty counts to those that can be confirmed by testing.
Disagreements between local and regional health authorities over the number of coronavirus deaths have also been blamed on the use of “different data systems.” New York City authorities have complained that the state has dragged its feet sharing data from hospitals and nursing homes.
A similar decision to classify cases that haven’t tested positive as coronavirus was reported by the Times earlier this month. The oddly-worded piece claimed “experts said” that “a vast majority of people visiting emergency rooms with flu-like symptoms probably have the coronavirus.” Some city hospitals were no longer even bothering to test for influenza, instead assuming that everyone with flu-like symptoms was a coronavirus patient, an infectious disease specialist told the outlet.
The classification has raised more than a few eyebrows among medical professionals and laypeople alike. Minnesota state senator and physician Dr Scott Jensen slammed as “ridiculous” the Centers for Disease Control guidelines advising doctors to list cause of death as coronavirus even in the absence of a test. “We are going to undermine the public trust,” he told Fox News last week, warning that the public’s “trust in politicians is already wearing thin.”
Makes sense to me.
If your health system is overwhelmed, and you have limited testing kits, and the disease follows a very clear path in its final 48 hours, allow trained health professionals to make experience-based calls on cause of death to help track overall trend of lockdown and distancing measures.
You can’t have a system that doesn’t provide for testing, and then complain when medical professionals and virologists come up with a way to track imperfect data.
Fox News is controlled by a right wing billionaire family (the Murdoch’s) who are openly calling for workers to return to work, to protect their financial interests.
That’s the conspiracy, that people like this, who own huge chunks of the media machine, put trump in power and are now advocating poverty and death for poor and middle class people, not doctors improvising in a shitty situation.
Coronavirus deaths in New York City have spiked by more than 3,700 after officials tacked on a group of victims merely suspected of having the virus. The city joins a growing list of sites counting “probable” cases as infected.
The additional deaths – 3,778, to be exact – include people who are “presumed to have been infected because of their symptoms and medical history,” according to two sources cited by the New York Times, which reported the deaths on Tuesday. These “probables” bring the total number of casualties for New York City to 10,367 and raise the nation’s total death toll by a whopping 17 percent. Over 26,000 people are now considered to have died with the coronavirus in the US, according to the Times.
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio had initially declined to include the “probables” as coronavirus deaths but reportedly changed his mind after a weekend briefing, the sources said, adding that most of the presumed deaths took place in hospitals. While New York has tested more people per capita for coronavirus than anywhere else in the US, it joins several other sites – city health commissioner Oxiris Barbot named Connecticut, Ohio, Maryland, and Delaware – that began reporting “probable” cases as coronavirus deaths this week. Other sites, including California and Seattle, have limited their casualty counts to those that can be confirmed by testing.
Disagreements between local and regional health authorities over the number of coronavirus deaths have also been blamed on the use of “different data systems.” New York City authorities have complained that the state has dragged its feet sharing data from hospitals and nursing homes.
A similar decision to classify cases that haven’t tested positive as coronavirus was reported by the Times earlier this month. The oddly-worded piece claimed “experts said” that “a vast majority of people visiting emergency rooms with flu-like symptoms probably have the coronavirus.” Some city hospitals were no longer even bothering to test for influenza, instead assuming that everyone with flu-like symptoms was a coronavirus patient, an infectious disease specialist told the outlet.
The classification has raised more than a few eyebrows among medical professionals and laypeople alike. Minnesota state senator and physician Dr Scott Jensen slammed as “ridiculous” the Centers for Disease Control guidelines advising doctors to list cause of death as coronavirus even in the absence of a test. “We are going to undermine the public trust,” he told Fox News last week, warning that the public’s “trust in politicians is already wearing thin.”
Makes sense to me.
If your health system is overwhelmed, and you have limited testing kits, and the disease follows a very clear path in its final 48 hours, allow trained health professionals to make experience-based calls on cause of death to help track overall trend of lockdown and distancing measures.
You can’t have a system that doesn’t provide for testing, and then complain when medical professionals and virologists come up with a way to track imperfect data.
Fox News is controlled by a right wing billionaire family (the Murdoch’s) who are openly calling for workers to return to work, to protect their financial interests.
That’s the conspiracy, that people like this, who own huge chunks of the media machine, put trump in power and are now advocating poverty and death for poor and middle class people, not doctors improvising in a shitty situation.
Cops around the world have taken a special interest in ensuring people don’t transmit coronavirus while enjoying the warming weather. In the UK, Central Bedfordshire police were slammed for suggesting (complete with a sinister photo) that rural picnickers would be ambushed by the long arm of the law.
‘The UK is dead’: Near-unanimous disgust after British police threaten to ‘appear from shadows’ to bust rural picnics
Planning a party?
Britain has been home to some of the most absurd examples of overzealous coronavirus policing, from cops threatening to paw through people’s shopping carts hunting for “non-essential” items to businesses being threatened for selling Easter eggs. Those who stayed home were assumed to be safe, however — until now. Over the weekend, video of at least four officers barging into one hapless man’s flat after allegedly receiving a call about a “disturbance” went viral. The un-masked, mostly un-gloved officers attempted to justify breaking down the man’s door and poking around his home for the sake of “social distancing,” but beat a hasty retreat after appearing to realize he was alone.
While it’s not clear who reported the man, local police forces have been flooded with calls from civilians concerned their neighbors aren’t following the rules — so much so that several municipalities have set up dedicated apps and tip-lines for the junior Stasi-in-training among the population.
Micro-managers
The town of Beverly, Massachusetts has regimented even the sidewalks to stop the spread of coronavirus, in an effort that appears to mock the state’s culture of neurotic rule-following. Like most of the US, Massachusetts is under lockdown, allowing residents out only to exercise and conduct essential business. But local police “noticed there was a tremendous amount of foot traffic and people walking into each other,” Beverly Police Chief John LeLacheur told Fox News last week, explaining the need for the one-way designations. LeLacheur has already suggested the new rules — which carry a $100 fine for the disobedient — will stick around after the pandemic.
Across the pond, Manchester police went further, inventing their own micro-managing rules, as they cornered a man attempting to deliver food to family members and threatened him with pepper spray. The incident in the town of Fallowfield made headlines, and Greater Manchester police apologized to the man and his family, acknowledging “the incident wasn’t dealt with in the professional way we would expect.”
That’s hardly all — reports of fines issued for purchasing “non-essential items” have proliferated across social media, even as the UK government reminded police there were no official restrictions on what items could be purchased.
No Easter for you
Churchgoers attempting to celebrate Easter clashed with authorities over the weekend across the US. Cars at a Kentucky church were flyered with intimidating warnings from the local police, even after a federal judge ruled drive-in services — in which worshipers remained in their cars with windows closed, maintaining social distancing — could not be banned. Car owners were informed they would be expected to self-quarantine for 14 days, or risk “further enforcement measures.”
US District Judge Justin Walker didn’t mince words in his ruling against the ban on drive-in services on Saturday. “On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter. That sentence is one that this Court never expected to see outside the pages of a dystopian novel, or perhaps the pages of The Onion.” Others wondered why it was acceptable to sit in one’s car in a Wal-Mart parking lot, but not on church property.
When peace officers
Finally
become extinct
leaving behind
a blue corrupted line
of law enforcement
officers
the question of police
having any
humanity
becomes moot
when psychological
evaluations
now allows
those who have none
to wear the uniform
that the peace officers
first begun
‘The UK is dead’: Near-unanimous disgust after British police threaten to ‘appear from shadows’ to bust rural picnics
Planning a party?
Britain has been home to some of the most absurd examples of overzealous coronavirus policing, from cops threatening to paw through people’s shopping carts hunting for “non-essential” items to businesses being threatened for selling Easter eggs. Those who stayed home were assumed to be safe, however — until now. Over the weekend, video of at least four officers barging into one hapless man’s flat after allegedly receiving a call about a “disturbance” went viral. The un-masked, mostly un-gloved officers attempted to justify breaking down the man’s door and poking around his home for the sake of “social distancing,” but beat a hasty retreat after appearing to realize he was alone.
While it’s not clear who reported the man, local police forces have been flooded with calls from civilians concerned their neighbors aren’t following the rules — so much so that several municipalities have set up dedicated apps and tip-lines for the junior Stasi-in-training among the population.
Micro-managers
The town of Beverly, Massachusetts has regimented even the sidewalks to stop the spread of coronavirus, in an effort that appears to mock the state’s culture of neurotic rule-following. Like most of the US, Massachusetts is under lockdown, allowing residents out only to exercise and conduct essential business. But local police “noticed there was a tremendous amount of foot traffic and people walking into each other,” Beverly Police Chief John LeLacheur told Fox News last week, explaining the need for the one-way designations. LeLacheur has already suggested the new rules — which carry a $100 fine for the disobedient — will stick around after the pandemic.
Across the pond, Manchester police went further, inventing their own micro-managing rules, as they cornered a man attempting to deliver food to family members and threatened him with pepper spray. The incident in the town of Fallowfield made headlines, and Greater Manchester police apologized to the man and his family, acknowledging “the incident wasn’t dealt with in the professional way we would expect.”
That’s hardly all — reports of fines issued for purchasing “non-essential items” have proliferated across social media, even as the UK government reminded police there were no official restrictions on what items could be purchased.
No Easter for you
Churchgoers attempting to celebrate Easter clashed with authorities over the weekend across the US. Cars at a Kentucky church were flyered with intimidating warnings from the local police, even after a federal judge ruled drive-in services — in which worshipers remained in their cars with windows closed, maintaining social distancing — could not be banned. Car owners were informed they would be expected to self-quarantine for 14 days, or risk “further enforcement measures.”
US District Judge Justin Walker didn’t mince words in his ruling against the ban on drive-in services on Saturday. “On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter. That sentence is one that this Court never expected to see outside the pages of a dystopian novel, or perhaps the pages of The Onion.” Others wondered why it was acceptable to sit in one’s car in a Wal-Mart parking lot, but not on church property.
When peace officers
Finally
become extinct
leaving behind
a blue corrupted line
of law enforcement
officers
the question of police
having any
humanity
becomes moot
when psychological
evaluations
now allows
those who have none
to wear the uniform
that the peace officers
first begun
Anonymous
Copper’s Virus-Killing Powers Were Known Even to the Ancients - Smithsonian Magazine
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/copper-virus-kill-180974655/
Found an article that references the “ancients”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/copper-virus-kill-180974655/
Found an article that references the “ancients”
What was nice to see today while I was sat in the hospital waiting room (I had to take my 84 year old mum to have the plaster taken off her arm) Was the NHS staff watching the 99 year old man (100 this month) on the TV , who is going to do 100 laps of his garden to raise money for the NHS and the smiles on their faces as what he raised hit 5 million.
The Gates Family, Eugenics and COVID-19
https://tottnews.com/2020/04/09/gates-family-eugenics-covid-19/
How many people are aware of the vaccine damage payment? Did you even know such a thing existed.
https://tottnews.com/2020/04/09/gates-family-eugenics-covid-19/
How many people are aware of the vaccine damage payment? Did you even know such a thing existed.
https://youtu.be/tjTwx55tkxI
5G towers going up everywhere
https://youtu.be/lmHRYzF0dyQ
Corbett report. What nobody is saying about the corona crisis.
5G towers going up everywhere
https://youtu.be/lmHRYzF0dyQ
Corbett report. What nobody is saying about the corona crisis.
Dr Adams specifically stated in his interview on Sirius Xm that "we" meaning the task force "are working from facts NOW, modalities are projections, we have the facts and we the Trump admin are moving forward from the facts that we have. So many tests have been false positives we need to do accurate testing we hope to start opening businesses by May or June in some places .
He mentioned the Trump Administration several times he did not mention Bill Gates ,WHO, CDC he only mentioned the Trump Administration and the fact that they are using the facts that they have to move forward. The fact that he did not praise Bill Gates WHO and CDC for their work is information in itself. The overly excited yahoo in the video link I posted expounded with his own direct hits at Bill Gates WHO CDC because he read between the lines of the Surgeon Generals interview. You can hear it for yourself XM Sirius radio interview with surgeon general
He also mentioned the 25000 people who have died from the flu this year who have been overlooked. The fact that masks do not help they could harm people spread the virus while having no symptoms
Every president is a puppet for the elite Trump is a rogue puppet he is the problem child you place in the corner for punishment and they continue to sneak away or get up because they feel its their right to do so or because they just want to.
Trump is not stupid he may be a lousy speaker, juvenile at times but he is not stupid.
When it comes to money he will throw his bits of information out there he will throw his people out there who support him in hopes of others catching on to his message. He is still under the rule of the elite while he us rebelling the choices made. I am not supporting Trump I don't vote I'm sovereign I'm just saying read the man, read the Surgeon General, read Bill Gates, they all have an agenda. Trumps agenda to make one not so much now as in the future. The Surgeon General agenda, to do the best he can to make a name for people of color while still holding his Hippocratic Oath. Bill Gates agenda, to rule the fucken world with his water systems, food programs, vaccinations, and his vision to see his image in holographic form in the skies all over the world
He mentioned the Trump Administration several times he did not mention Bill Gates ,WHO, CDC he only mentioned the Trump Administration and the fact that they are using the facts that they have to move forward. The fact that he did not praise Bill Gates WHO and CDC for their work is information in itself. The overly excited yahoo in the video link I posted expounded with his own direct hits at Bill Gates WHO CDC because he read between the lines of the Surgeon Generals interview. You can hear it for yourself XM Sirius radio interview with surgeon general
He also mentioned the 25000 people who have died from the flu this year who have been overlooked. The fact that masks do not help they could harm people spread the virus while having no symptoms
Every president is a puppet for the elite Trump is a rogue puppet he is the problem child you place in the corner for punishment and they continue to sneak away or get up because they feel its their right to do so or because they just want to.
Trump is not stupid he may be a lousy speaker, juvenile at times but he is not stupid.
When it comes to money he will throw his bits of information out there he will throw his people out there who support him in hopes of others catching on to his message. He is still under the rule of the elite while he us rebelling the choices made. I am not supporting Trump I don't vote I'm sovereign I'm just saying read the man, read the Surgeon General, read Bill Gates, they all have an agenda. Trumps agenda to make one not so much now as in the future. The Surgeon General agenda, to do the best he can to make a name for people of color while still holding his Hippocratic Oath. Bill Gates agenda, to rule the fucken world with his water systems, food programs, vaccinations, and his vision to see his image in holographic form in the skies all over the world
https://youtu.be/2FNLJfcelCg
Do you know the reason for social isolation. Its easier for the facial regognition software to track, rather than clusters of people.
The video is a long one but they are discussing the technocratic control.
Do you know the reason for social isolation. Its easier for the facial regognition software to track, rather than clusters of people.
The video is a long one but they are discussing the technocratic control.
I am socially isolating to avoid getting sick if other people are, and to avoid getting other people sick if I have the virus. This is profoundly important to me, because this virus can be asymptomatic for so long in people who get sick and can be perpetually asymptomatic in people who don't, and I have a mother who is an at-risk individual. As such, the reason you have mentioned is absolutely not my reason. You see what you want to see.
SatInUGal said:I am not necessarily predisposed against conspiracy theories, but when it is about public health, I can be tenacious in trying to persuade people to see the importance of the science.
This graph cannot be accurate if the numbers are not accurate We have the numbers on car crashes and influenza The numbers are not factual with COVID-19
Youre saying those who refuse to believe the COVID numbers are conspiracy theorists?
This graph cannot be accurate if the numbers are not accurate We have the numbers on car crashes and influenza The numbers are not factual with COVID-19
Youre saying those who refuse to believe the COVID numbers are conspiracy theorists?
Valeriya said:
This graph cannot be accurate if the numbers are not accurate We have the numbers on car crashes and influenza The numbers are not factual with COVID-19
Youre saying those who refuse to believe the COVID numbers are conspiracy theorists?
Influenza numbers are not exact.
Car crashes numbers are not correct.
No population data is correct.
Your age is not correct.
No data is perfect, due to everything from human error to access issues.
That is why the entire field of statistics is a thing.
“Don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good”.
Is your logic that we let people die because the data is not perfect?
If that were true seatbelts would never have been used. Nor stopping the use of thalidomide, or addressing the dangers of tobacco....the list goes on.
This graph cannot be accurate if the numbers are not accurate We have the numbers on car crashes and influenza The numbers are not factual with COVID-19
Youre saying those who refuse to believe the COVID numbers are conspiracy theorists?
Influenza numbers are not exact.
Car crashes numbers are not correct.
No population data is correct.
Your age is not correct.
No data is perfect, due to everything from human error to access issues.
That is why the entire field of statistics is a thing.
“Don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good”.
Is your logic that we let people die because the data is not perfect?
If that were true seatbelts would never have been used. Nor stopping the use of thalidomide, or addressing the dangers of tobacco....the list goes on.
