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don't try
don't try...
I was thinking today,
about an interview with Bukowski
where they asked him...
what made him a great writer
and he pointed to the drink in his hand
then I started thinking about art
Andy Warhol knew the key...
to make it more than just plain old paint
he had to piss on the picture
what if my words are just words
without the drugs and alcohol?
I didn't even have to try before
the poetry just sprang from me
the drugs released the ideas
and freed them with passion
perhaps with an intensity
I don't possess on my own
they allowed me to piss on the page
creating art
what if there is no art...
without pain and suffering
what if it's just dull...
words with no imagination?
Bukowski had no ideas of grandeur
he knew it was the alcohol...
that released a brilliance
perhaps not even his own
instead a communal thought of genius
I knew the poetry wasn't mine
I was allowed into...
the sacred grounds of creation
by paying a toll
suffering my mentor
pain my palette
oxidized thought creating art
pissed on by the gods
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Re. don't try
Anonymous
10th Oct 2018 1:48pm
My sweet Brenda. Without the canvas, the brush is just a brush? Wrong. The brush can paint on walls, on wood etc. You are the brush. The art is inside you. The drugs just made you think that it was them, but without you, there is no art. So just enter your soul and free your inner drug. You know we have them already inside us. I truly love your heart and soul. Love yourself. Hugs J
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:12pm
thank you dearest Juvenalis for your vision of art and who I am in regards to it... I will paint all over town... I cherish you beautiful soul 💕
love Brenda
love Brenda
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 1:48pm
It's in there just waiting to come out. Many things can spark thought, music helps when you find the right genre to fit your mood
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:14pm
thank you dearest Tim it's trying to come forth i'm just lacking in self-confidence at the moment I will stronger as time passes I believe... I love writing I will not be beaten by this feeling...
I deeply appreciate you...
love Brenda 🌹
I deeply appreciate you...
love Brenda 🌹
Re. don't try
Anonymous
10th Oct 2018 2:05pm
The thing about drugs is the illusion they cast. Believe in yourself and they won't hold that power over you. Words don't come from the drugs, they come from you...where you've been, what you've overcome, who you are...those are all bits of the paint you cast on the canvas. But they come from you...not the drugs. Don't buy into their lure, beautiful Dark Angel. You are much more capable than you think. Believe...
I love you
...ever your Willow
I love you
...ever your Willow
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:16pm
thank you beautiful Willow for your loving wisdom...I will gain confidence in who I am with time and time only... I spent age 17 to 47 on substances... I am expecting things overnight and that is wrong...
I love you beautiful...
love Brenda 💕
I love you beautiful...
love Brenda 💕
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:05pm
You're self doubt is honest
Poems and life under the influence is fake
Bukowski couldn't get away with his content today. Nor should he.
Speaking only from my personal view, your meth poems while dynamic in outrageouness, were hard to read and hurtful, to both yourself and your subjects. You are better than that. Nobody is grading your poems. You write because you love it. It loves you back but it's words on paper or a screen. Life is not meth. It pains me to see you think meth has any value.
It was hard for me to write this but truth is truth.
Courage Brenda
Poems and life under the influence is fake
Bukowski couldn't get away with his content today. Nor should he.
Speaking only from my personal view, your meth poems while dynamic in outrageouness, were hard to read and hurtful, to both yourself and your subjects. You are better than that. Nobody is grading your poems. You write because you love it. It loves you back but it's words on paper or a screen. Life is not meth. It pains me to see you think meth has any value.
It was hard for me to write this but truth is truth.
Courage Brenda
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:11pm
thank you dearest Poet for your honesty it's heartfelt... I do write because I love it I'm the only one grading and if I ask myself the truth it's my confidence I'm lacking not lacking in ideas...I feel like a child taking her first steps when I write now... a little shakey and unsure of myself... I never wrote completely sober...you're right about Bukowski...
I deeply feel the love I won't go back...
just writing out my feelings...
love Brenda ❤❤
I deeply feel the love I won't go back...
just writing out my feelings...
love Brenda ❤❤
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:29pm
"what if there is no art...
without pain and suffering
what if it's just dull...
words with no imagination?"
Sober lips tell tales of true pain and suffering. From that, comes art. Drugs are used to mask the pain, all the while creating a new form of suffering. Taking away the drugs does not take away the pain. It is still there. Still something to use as a springboard for creation. The difference is, it's cohesive, liberating, healing, and relatable. It is never dull and it never lacks imagination. Do we have to pull more deeply from the depths to uncover it? Maybe. But it isn't masked by substance, and that makes it raw, and makes it real.
without pain and suffering
what if it's just dull...
words with no imagination?"
Sober lips tell tales of true pain and suffering. From that, comes art. Drugs are used to mask the pain, all the while creating a new form of suffering. Taking away the drugs does not take away the pain. It is still there. Still something to use as a springboard for creation. The difference is, it's cohesive, liberating, healing, and relatable. It is never dull and it never lacks imagination. Do we have to pull more deeply from the depths to uncover it? Maybe. But it isn't masked by substance, and that makes it raw, and makes it real.
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 2:33pm
thank you beautiful Eerie the truth is I'm afraid...what you said is hard to hear but it's honest...I will learn to be who I am whoever that is underneath thirty years of different drugs and alcohol...my journey has led me here...
I deeply appreciate your honesty...
love Brenda ❤
I deeply appreciate your honesty...
love Brenda ❤
Re. don't try
Anonymous
10th Oct 2018 2:47pm
This if my by far, in my humble opinion, your greatest ever. I once rode the vodka & speed highway to crash to self destruction. Respect. Rob x
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 3:01pm
thank you graciously dearest Rob you made my day...
I'm glad you're no longer on that dark train...
love Brenda ❤
I'm glad you're no longer on that dark train...
love Brenda ❤
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 3:00pm
I think he knew the different effects of alcohol on his writing ability. He knew that heavy alcohol got him drunk too fast and had the opposite affect while wine was better, he could drink all night long and have that slow sweet buzz which helped him to write better, longer.
Nevertheless, its a great ponder, how much of a good writing is enhanced with substance use. and i really like this, something to think about for sure. Thanks for posting it Brenda
Nevertheless, its a great ponder, how much of a good writing is enhanced with substance use. and i really like this, something to think about for sure. Thanks for posting it Brenda
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 3:05pm
thank you beautiful Layla you saw the same interview that I did... through different eyes though.... while I focused on drink it was just a glass of wine he was referring to as his catalyst to his creations...
I deeply appreciate your thoughts...
love Brenda ❤
I deeply appreciate your thoughts...
love Brenda ❤
Re. don't try
Anonymous
10th Oct 2018 3:18pm
Man, you are deep Crimmy!! I love the way your beautiful mind thinks, and speaks!
Stay clean, but keep that brilliant mind turning.
You're my idol now!
Love,
Matthew.
Stay clean, but keep that brilliant mind turning.
You're my idol now!
Love,
Matthew.
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 3:20pm
thank you graciously dearest Matthew you sure know how to make a lady smile ❤
I cherish you and the love you show me...
I'm going to stay clean prove that i'm about something just to spite my demons...
love Brenda 💕
I cherish you and the love you show me...
I'm going to stay clean prove that i'm about something just to spite my demons...
love Brenda 💕
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Anonymous
10th Oct 2018 3:25pm
My God you're great Crimmy!! You know, I only have a limited number of times I can tell you how truly awesome you are(6,482,386 left), so you better slow down on being so cool!! lol.
Love you so,
Matthew.
Love you so,
Matthew.
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Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 4:18pm
I knew the poetry wasn't mine I was allowed into... the sacred grounds of creation by paying a toll...was deeply insightful and suffering my mentor
pain my palette oxidized thought creating art pissed on by the gods almost reads like word play. Nice on bringing a public figure into dialogue with your piece, which is unique. That should be a genre of it's own.
pain my palette oxidized thought creating art pissed on by the gods almost reads like word play. Nice on bringing a public figure into dialogue with your piece, which is unique. That should be a genre of it's own.
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Re: Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 4:38pm
thank you beautiful Nari for the love and insight on this write...I love your vision of it...
love Brenda 💕
love Brenda 💕
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 5:30pm
There's some really good comments above responding to your poem.
I read somewhere that the vast majority of creative people don't consider substance-addiction/use a bonus to their art. It's a bit blunt I know - but there's plenty of access to inspiration in a mundane everyday routine life. Hold strong. Josh.
I read somewhere that the vast majority of creative people don't consider substance-addiction/use a bonus to their art. It's a bit blunt I know - but there's plenty of access to inspiration in a mundane everyday routine life. Hold strong. Josh.
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thank you dearest Josh I agree with what people have said... I would confess I have days of negative thoughts...
I deeply appreciate your honesty...
love Brenda ✨
I deeply appreciate your honesty...
love Brenda ✨
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 6:46pm
Poetry doesn’t have to be anything. Doesn’t have to be pain, or anger. It is beautiful because it is yours. It is the feeling you put into it that makes it beautiful.
As you say, don’t try 😁
As you say, don’t try 😁
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Re: Re. don't try
11th Oct 2018 2:46pm
you're right dear friend I will find my voice sober this time...you are beautiful...
love Brenda 💕
love Brenda 💕
Re. don't try
10th Oct 2018 11:25pm
Your poetry speaks volumes to me that’s why it’s another one of yours in my reading list,
I drank myself stupid for years and I was very creative and what I learnt was the drink itself did not make the poetry it was always there within my soul from my past experiences of a fucked up childhood to a even worse divorce,
Now I hardly drink and I know that it’s there just waiting to come out which I have not stoped writing everyday for years since,
Never judge yourself to harshly because you are a damn good writer I pop on your page a lot and read for ages please keep it up 😊
I drank myself stupid for years and I was very creative and what I learnt was the drink itself did not make the poetry it was always there within my soul from my past experiences of a fucked up childhood to a even worse divorce,
Now I hardly drink and I know that it’s there just waiting to come out which I have not stoped writing everyday for years since,
Never judge yourself to harshly because you are a damn good writer I pop on your page a lot and read for ages please keep it up 😊
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Re: Re. don't try
11th Oct 2018 2:47pm
thank you dearest Epic One for sharing your own personal experience with me it gives me courage...
love Brenda 💕
love Brenda 💕