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Kreepy_Kat
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The life of a Christian is not an easy one. God's got rules and boundaries that are good for us and JUST. But we humans don't like His rules (can you name all 10 commandments??) so we end up not liking Him either. But still, He loves you, no matter how much you reject and insult Him. He's always waiting for you to speak to Him.

At the end of the day, when all these arguments are over, its really just between you and God. As Christians we should do our best to help others to meet God, without ever discriminating. Murderers, rapists, homosexuals, rich and poor. God doesn't categorise His children. We have to try to be "Christ-like" ....which is really difficult for an introvert like me xP Lol.

Sorry but this is really serious stuff. Nothing is more important than your relationship with God. What do you think is gonna happen to you when you die?

Jesus Christ faced the wrath of God so that all of us could be forgiven for our sins.. E.g. Internet porn, *cough cough....lol

Oh and FYI, its the Christian's job to be a pain in the ass to all non believers lmao

And that's my 2 cents worth :D

AscensionES
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God is a he? When I met God at the Pearly White Gates to God's Gracious heaven God wasn't a he, God was a smoking hot lesbian with a tight ass and a nice set of tits with a slight perk.

And yeah, I fucked your 'lesbian' God, well. She did me, power hungry cunt she is!

Arcane_Scribe
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The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

There are good examples of all of this within the so called good book.
for example..
God drowns the whole earth.
In Genesis 7:21-23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, fetuses, and perhaps unicorns. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37-42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns.

God and Jesus sound great ,Cant wait to meet them.
My opinion ..
Faith is the true potential of religion ,If we as the human race could put our faith in each other rather than in religion ,Well just imagine what we as a race could achieve.



MadameLavender
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ThePintSizdSlasher said:How can I believe in something that doesn't believe in me?

How do you know that God doesn't believe in you?  The basis of faith is trusting that there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to right now, but accepting that it's all for a reason.  Life doesn't come without trials, and God answers all prayers/requests, but not always on our timing, or giving us the answer we want to hear or think we should have.

Regardless, we are all worth much in the eyes of God:

Luke 12:6-8

Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God

MrAlptraum
Mr A
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Don't do god, kids.

Kreepy_Kat
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The old testament has a lot of weird stuff yeah. And its only natural that we question it and we want to know every single detail about every paragraph. As a history freak I always want to know everything Lol.

But God always did what He did for a reason. HIS reasons. I don't think we're in a position to question God's ways. He flooded the earth because the people that were alive at that time were probably very much like we are today. They were wicked. You can read "The Wickedness and Judgement of Man" in Genesis chapter 6. It pretty much explains God's reason for doing it.

Mankind cut itself off from God. We are born so radically depraved and God-hating. The only thing that could save us was for God to crush his own son. Its really sad if you think about it.

Jesus Christ is our way of reconnecting with God. The only way.

I'm sorry but I think putting faith in the human race on its own wouldn't work out very well at all. Don't have to be a scholar to figure that out lol

Grace
IDryad
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Religion is a volatile subject. God just is, to me personally. Whether anybody else believe that or not, its up to them. Listen to Mr A.

Arcane_Scribe
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Kreepy_Kat said:
I'm sorry but I think putting faith in the human race on its own wouldn't work out very well at all. Don't have to be a scholar to figure that out lol


lol The same can be said for peoples faith in religion though.
Through out our history we have gone to war in the name of religion many many times ,Even in todays society thousands of people are being killed because of the faith they have chosen and who is doing the killing ?..,It's the religious nuts.
So if you take religion out of the equation how would we not be better off ?.


Kreepy_Kat
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Very true

Historically what I can tell is that apart from paganism, "religion" began with Constantine the Great when he "converted" the roman empire. Before that, Christianity was despised but strengthened by its martyrs.

Constantine made everyone say "okay I'm a Christian now." That's religion, and no different from the ancient pagan politics that came before. Mankind defiled God's word by using it to control others. They made the Bible in latin and outlawed it from being written in any other language. So only the religious elite had access to it - hence the "dark ages".

God doesn't want us to be religious. He just wants us to have fellowship with Him and worship Him. He wants every single one of us in his kingdom of heaven. And he wants to destroy everything that is worldly and wicked, everything that the devil has brought to us, God's own creations.

But yeah, religious nuts haha. I think religion was always around, even when it wasn't given a name

lepperochan
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I grew up around Christianity and Catholicism. I found that ..wait for it, this might blow your mind. They were people, with good points and bad points, just like the rest of us. all evidence would suggest that it was the people who were supposed to be representing god that were cruel, greedy and deviant on a massive scale and that's replicated all over the globe and for the most part, egged on by the Vatican
..one branch of Christianity

I think sometimes we expect Christians to behave like some sort of apprentice angels, immune to any waves of temptation that might hit.

yeah, there's a fair few branches of Christianity that manipulate people for a variety of reasons. I think the ministries and the tv ministers ("just send your $99, and Jeeee-sus will fill you with his holeee spirit") are a good example of that

point being, these branches are thriving. They make millions every day. but I don't think you can put it down to faith, because they're literally paying their way into heaven, and paying for prayers to be answered. good books. so its a transaction if its anything.

faith is blind, so if you take a whole bunch of people who have faith in a certain doctrine and change the doctrine bit by bit
it wouldn't be a huge leap of faith to think that the majority of the people will accept and continue to invest their faith in that doctrine

I don't think God is cruel. I doubt he interferes in our every day lives or knows us by name. like Grace, I think God just is, and we're probably of little significance to the overall long term plan of the universe ..in our current form anyway    

Arcane_Scribe
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Thank you Jonathon Trigg !.
It's good to debate without the hate.
I honestly mean no offence with my point of view.

Kreepy_Kat
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I totally agree with your first 5 stanzas! But then the last one gutted me Lol!

We are very significant in the eyes of God, man as small as we are. Its almost absurd to believe. But God knows your name, he knows every single thought you've ever had and will have and he knows the day you were born and the day you will die. He knows what's in your heart

And when we die, we're gonna stand before Him. And here's something that's sure to give anyone the chills... God is gonna recount every single one of those thoughts and moments of your life. Every little thing you've done. And that's why we need Jesus. Because he's gonna be there too, and he's basically gonna go "You believed in me" or "I never knew you".

God has big plans. And you and I are included

And no, God isn't cruel. But He is just.

Kreepy_Kat
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Nor do I, Arcane !

As the Lord said: "Come, let us reason together." Haha.

It is good to debate without the hate. Just let me know if you ever wanna talk more!

lepperochan
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I'm not afraid of my God, and though I'm in no hurry to leave this particular phase of my being, I do look forward to the next phase. earth is nice n all but I bet there's some really great places out there


Grace
IDryad
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lepperochan said:I'm not afraid of my God, and though I'm in no hurry to leave this particular phase of my being, I do look forward to the next phase. earth is nice n all but I bet there's some really great places out there.


'Grant me chastity and continence, but not yet'...Amen to that...


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