The Biden's Israel bashing thread

The Labour Party have long been a centrist-at-best party of bootlickers. With their own vile history of antisemitism.

I thought this 25 minute clip on Gaza/Isreal with Piers Morgan was interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHqs15gOv4k

Casted_Runes said:The Labour Party have long been a centrist-at-best party of bootlickers. With their own vile history of antisemitism.
I can't disagree with your first sentence, but the second is open to question. The UK's Labour Party has long been a champion of the State of Israel, so much so, in fact, that even if a party member is Jewish [see link] the party will expel/suspend/censure them for any left-wing criticism of that State. My point was merely that at the present moment it's necessary to be the 'right kind of Jew' in the Labour Party.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/statement/labour-faces-formal-complaint-over-mistreatment-of-jews/

Casted_Runes said:I’ve heard recently that Israel faces an existential threat. That’s a laugh. Unlike the existential threat faced by Palestine since 1948, and whose civilians are suffering and dying at a much higher rate due to a UK/US-funded apartheid state’s military? When Dylan Roof was pictured with a Rhodesia badge after shooting up a Black church in the US, did we pause to reflect on the existential threat he faced as a white Christian? But apply the same mentality to a state, which can do a million times the damage, and suddenly it’s unfair to criticise. Israel does not equal “Jews” anymore than Britain equals a particular race. It is not racist to question a state.



I think as the world has become more polarised, or 'marmite-atized' logic means nothing. truth is but a deformed child chained to a rafter in the atiic. everyone knows its up there, it'll get fed by one side or the other, but neither side will set it free just in case

Anyhow, looks like the Biden backed genocidal apartheid regime is going after the Lebanese children next.


Administation has no problem pushing Congress aside for the cause

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/29/biden-blinken-byspass-congress-israel-weapons-sale

ajay said:
I can't disagree with your first sentence, but the second is open to question. The UK's Labour Party has long been a champion of the State of Israel, so much so, in fact, that even if a party member is Jewish [see link] the party will expel/suspend/censure them for any left-wing criticism of that State. My point was merely that at the present moment it's necessary to be the 'right kind of Jew' in the Labour Party.

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/statement/labour-faces-formal-complaint-over-mistreatment-of-jews/


That’s a fair assessment.

lepperochan said:
I think as the world has become more polarised, or 'marmite-atized' logic means nothing. truth is but a deformed child chained to a rafter in the atiic. everyone knows its up there, it'll get fed by one side or the other, but neither side will set it free just in case

Anyhow, looks like the Biden backed genocidal apartheid regime is going after the Lebanese children next.

Administation has no problem pushing Congress aside for the cause

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/29/biden-blinken-byspass-congress-israel-weapons-sale


Since we now live in a 'post-truth' society ( 'post-truth' was the Oxford Dictionary's Word of the Year in 2016), coinciding with Trump becoming President. I guess we can only expect more and more polarised fragmentation.
Regarding the Guardian article, it makes one wonder who controls America.

The devastation in Gaza

AS The MURDERING BASTARDS – er – THE BIDEN/HARRIS DEMOCRAT PARTY CONTINUES TO PROVIDE 'IRONCLAD' SUPPORT TO ISRAEL TO BLOW THE FUCK OUT OF GAZA, THESE ARE THE LATEST DEATH FIGURES/INJURIES FROM THE REGION:

The latest death toll stands at 43,257 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.

Gaza’s Ministry of Health says more than 42,500 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks and thousands more are buried under rubble and threatened by illness.

Here are the latest casualty figures as of 5:00pm in Gaza (14:00 GMT) on October 18:


Gaza

Killed: at least 42,500 people, including nearly 16,765 children
Injured: more than 99,546 people
Missing: more than 10,000

The latest figures from the Palestinian Ministry of Health in the occupied West Bank are as follows:


Occupied West Bank

Killed: at least 757 people, including at least 165 children
Injured: more than 6,250 people

In Israel, officials revised the death toll from the October 7 attacks down from 1,405 to 1,139.


Israel

Killed: 1,139 people
Injured: at least 8,730


Devastation across Gaza

According to the latest data from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, the World Health Organization and the Palestinian government as of October 13, Israeli attacks have damaged:

More than half of Gaza’s homes (damaged or destroyed)
80 percent of commercial facilities
87 percent of school buildings
Healthcare facilities so 17 of 36 hospitals are partially functional
68 percent of road networks
68 percent of cropland


Nowhere safe to go

The Israeli army published an online map of the Gaza Strip on December 1, dividing the enclave into more than 600 numbered blocks.

It asked Gaza’s civilians to identify the block corresponding with their area of residence and evacuate when ordered.

However, leaflets ordering evacuations have been inconsistent with online warnings, which has confused residents.

Furthermore, many Gaza residents have no reliable way to access the map because they have little access to electricity or the internet since the blockade of the 365sq-km (141sq-mile) Strip has resulted in a collapse of telecommunications infrastructure.


Every hour in Gaza:

15 people are killed. Six are children.
35 people are injured.
42 bombs are dropped*.
12 buildings are destroyed.

*Based on the first six days of the war, according to the Israeli army


Journalists killed

As of July 31, more than 125 journalists, mostly Palestinians, have been killed since the Israel-Gaza war began on October 7. According to the Committee to Protect Journalists and the International Federation of Journalists, at least 120 Palestinian, three Lebanese and two Israeli journalists have been killed.


AJLabs
19 Oct 2023

Source:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker


🔥🌏🌎🌍🔥


🇺🇲🇮🇱🇺🇦🇬🇧


FUCK PARTY POLITICAL JOURNALISM

Meanwhile, as Biden and Harris – the Butchers of the Democrat Party – continue to provide 'Ironclad' support to Israel for the genocide taking place in Gaza, the slaughter of Palestinian men, women and children goes on:

DOZENS KILLED IN ISRAELI ATTACK ON NORTHERN GAZA'S BEIT LAHIYA

Attack levels a multistorey residential building, with many people trapped under the rubble and rescue efforts hampered.

At least 87 people were killed or are missing under the debris after an Israeli air attack in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip, authorities said.

The overnight raid hit several houses and a multistorey residential building, known as the Beit Lahiya Project, the Gaza Government Media Office stated.

On Sunday, Gaza’s Ministry of Health said 87 people were killed or missing under the rubble after the attack, adding that more than 40 people were injured.

Rescue efforts have been hampered by a communications blackout and road obstructions in the north of the enclave, where a 16-day Israeli military siege has cut off access to food, water, medicine and essential services.

Beit Lahiya is a city in the north of the Gaza Strip close to Jabalia and Beit Hanoon. All three cities are severely affected by the Israeli offensive that has also resulted in severed phone and internet access.

Reporting from Deir el-Balah in central Gaza, Al Jazeera’s Hani Mahmoud said “the extent of the brutality of the latest attack” in Beit Lahiya keeps unfolding, “with many people still buried under massive piles of rubble”.

“A witness from the area described the massive explosion resulting from multiple air strikes shaking the very foundations of the surrounding areas,” he said.

Mahmoud said large chunks of concrete have blocked the path to the bombed-out areas, making it difficult for paramedics and Palestinian Civil Defence members to conduct rescue missions in Beit Lahiya, resulting in more casualties, the majority of them women, children and elderly.

“More than half of the people who were killed are, in fact, people who were forced to evacuate from Jabalia and other parts” of northern Gaza under Israeli siege, he noted.

Also reporting from Deir el-Balah, Al Jazeera’s Hind Khoudary said, “Civil defence teams are trying to pull people out from under the rubble, either with their bare hands or with minimum equipment,” adding that they were able to rescue a baby girl from the site on Sunday.

Among those killed in the attack in Beit Lahiya were at least 10 relatives of Al Jazeera Arabic’s correspondent Anas al-Sharif.

“Today, while covering the massacre by Israeli occupation forces in [Beit Lahiya], I was shocked to discover that one of the homes targeted in the airstrike belonged to my cousin,” al-Sharif wrote in a post on X.

An earlier Israeli military attack in Jabalia killed at least 33 Palestinians. Residents and medics said Israeli forces have been tightening their siege on the Jabalia refugee camp, the largest of the enclave’s eight historical camps.

Jabalia residents said Israeli forces besieged a number of shelters housing displaced families before they stormed them and arrested many men. Footage on social media showed dozens of Palestinian men sitting on the ground next to a tank, while others were led by a soldier to a gathering site.

The attack in Beit Lahiya came after Gaza health officials said three partially functioning hospitals treating severely wounded patients and sheltering thousands of displaced Palestinian civilians in northern Gaza were now out of service after coming under intense Israeli fire.

Israeli forces bombed al-Awda Hospital in Jabalia early Saturday and have also shelled Kamal Adwan and the Indonesian hospitals in Beit Lahiya over the past few hours, Al Jazeera correspondents reported.

Tor Wennesland, the United Nations special coordinator for the Middle East peace process, condemned the attack in Beit Layiha and what he said were “horrifying scenes” unfolding there, adding “nowhere is safe in Gaza”.

In a post on social media platform X, Wennesland called for an immediate halt to attacks on civilians and emphasised the need to protect displaced Palestinians.

“This war must end. The hostages held by Hamas must be freed, the displacement of Palestinians must cease, and civilians must be protected wherever they are.”

Gaza’s Health Ministry on Sunday said at least 42,603 people have been killed and 99,795 wounded in Israeli attacks since October 7, 2023.

The figures are likely far higher with an estimated 10,000 bodies buried in the vast debris of destroyed buildings throughout the Gaza Strip.

Al Jazeera
20 Oct 2024

Source:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/20/dozens-killed-in-israeli-strike-in-northern-gazas-beit-lahiya

🔥🌍🌎🌏🔥

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🇬🇧


FUCK PARTY POLITICAL JOURNALISM

Meanwhile, as the Biden and Harris Democrat Party butchers continue to provide 'Ironclad'
support for Israel to continue the genocide of Palestinian men, women and children, Al Jazeera examines the plight of those devastated people:


AS ISRAEL'S SIEGE OF NORTH GAZA CONTINUES, HOW ARE PEOPLE COPING?

Israeli forces launched an operation in the north on October 6, laying a deadly siege to hundreds of thousands of people in the war-ravaged area.

Israel attacked Beit Lahiya on Saturday, hitting residential buildings. At least 87 people have been killed or missing, according to the Government Media Office.

Israel laid siege to north Gaza more than two weeks ago and has been attacking everyone left in the area ferociously since, resulting in the deaths of many civilians.

Here is what you need to know about Israel’s ongoing assault in north Gaza:


What is Israel doing to north Gaza?

Israel launched the assault in northern Gaza on October 6, claiming it aimed to stop Hamas from regrouping.

The Israeli army’s Arabic spokesperson, Avichay Adraee, said Hamas had established “terrorist infrastructure in your region, exploiting the population, shelters, and health facilities as a human shield”.

Israel demanded the evacuation of civilians from large swaths, including Jabalia, Beit Lahiya and Beit Hanoon, calling on residents to flee south, including to the already overcrowded “humanitarian zone” in al-Mawasi.

Israel has attacked humanitarian zones several times, prompting the United Nations to say repeatedly that no place in the enclave is safe.

“We feel like we’re bodies without souls. The bombardment was intense and merciless around our house, disregarding the presence of children and women inside,” one northern Gaza resident told Al Jazeera. “Bodies are left in the streets. They’ve become food for dogs.”

Rescue efforts in the north have been hampered by a communications blackout and road obstructions due to the siege.

Meanwhile, the Israeli army released footage showing dozens of Palestinians being rounded up near the Indonesian Hospital, where many had taken shelter – people in wheelchairs are seen among those detained.


How many people are still there?

The evacuation order has affected some 400,000 people living there, approximately 20 percent of the population of Gaza, according to UN estimates.

Many of them are trapped, unable to leave due to intense bombardments, Israeli snipers and ground troops.

UN human rights chief Volker Turk on Thursday warned Israel that “any forcible transfer of a large part of the population of North Gaza would amount to a war crime”.

Analysts say Israel’s evacuation orders in Gaza indicate that those who cannot, or choose not to, leave are being considered military targets, with “evacuation areas” treated as “kill zones”.


What are the conditions for the people in northern Gaza?

No food aid has entered the north since October 2, the UN’s acting under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief said in a report on Wednesday, adding “all essential supplies for survival are running out”.

She warned that while the distribution of “existing food supplies” was ongoing, these stocks were “quickly dwindling”.

The UN’s World Food Programme said on October 12 that the north was “basically cut off and we’re not able to operate there”.

James Smith, an emergency doctor who recently returned after working in Gaza, told Al Jazeera that he joined several aid and medical convoys that attempted to move from the south of Gaza to the north.

“More often than not, we were denied access by the Israeli military manning the checkpoints,” he said. “Very few UN convoys that attempted to reach the north have reached. This also, on occasion, meant we could not retrieve injured and sick patients from the north.”

The Israeli military has denied restricting aid supplies, saying that since October 1, more than 9,000 tonnes of humanitarian aid have entered Gaza through various crossings.
It said some of that aid was transferred directly into northern Gaza.

The Government Media Office refuted the claim, saying Israel’s “lies” about allowing trucks in are completely false.

How many people has the Israeli army killed?

Israel has killed at least 450 people in north Gaza since it besieged it on October 6, according to medics who spoke to Al Jazeera.

A major focus of Israeli attacks in the north has been Jabalia, the largest refugee camp in Gaza. It killed at least 33 people in Jabalia on Friday.

A man mourns over the bodies of relatives killed in an Israeli air raid on the Jabalia refugee camp, in front of the Baptist Hospital on October 12, 2024 [Omar al-Qattaa/AFP]

Are those injured able to get treatment?

Three hospitals remain partially functioning in northern Gaza – al-Awda, Indonesian and Kamal Adwan Hospital.

These health facilities have seen a massive influx of patients during Israel’s two-week-long siege, according to Gaza’s Ministry of Health.

On Friday, Director-General of Hospitals at the ministry Muhammad Zaqout said all three facilities had been bombed during this latest Israeli operation.

The ministry said two patients at the Indonesian Hospital died due to a power outage and the Israeli siege, which is preventing medical supplies from reaching them.

Meanwhile, one person was killed and others injured after Israeli forces bombed the entrance of the Kamal Adwan Hospital on Saturday.

However, despite evacuation orders by the Israeli military, doctors at all three facilities have refused to leave their patients.


By Al Jazeera Staff
21 Oct 2024


Source:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/21/as-israels-siege-on-north-gaza-continues-how-are-people-coping


🔥🌍🌎🌏🔥

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🇬🇧


FUCK PARTY POLITICAL JOURNALISM

Thank you Ajay for gathering the 'hard' information on Gaza and beyond. Hard reading indeed but it needed to be said.

Josh said:Thank you Ajay for gathering the 'hard' information on Gaza and beyond. Hard reading indeed but it needed to be said.


Cheers, Josh.
Sadly Israel is not in accord with your sentiments and has now banned the Al Jazeera news organisation from Israel :

'Al Jazeera is reporting from Jordan because it has been banned from Israel and the occupied West Bank by the Israeli government..'

There'll soon be nothing left of Gaza on which anyone can report, sadly.


I hope you and yours are well,
Best wishes 👍

I think it's worthwhile mentioning at this point that, as the below historical report shows, not all US presidents and their parties have been such enthusiastic supporters of Israel and its destruction of Palestine as Biden/Harris. Even George H. W. Bush, that well-known Republican dove of peace, took a concrete stand against Israel in the September of 1991, despite fierce opposition from the US Jewish lobby groups, forcing it to join what eventually became the Madrid Peace Process. However, possibly he paid the political price for his actions: his share of the US Jewish vote fell sharply from 35% in 1989 when he won the US election to only 11% in 1993 when he lost. Democratic Presidents Clinton and Obama learned their lesson from this, as their actions in respect of their relations with Israel clearly showed.

It's here, I think, we can find at least one the reasons for the Biden/Harris Democrats' 'Ironclad' support of the ongoing genocide in Gaza: they don't mind the destruction of Gaza and the deaths of, so far, 50,000 Palestinian men, women and children, but heaven forbid that they should upset the powerful US Zionist lobby groups and lose votes in November's election. Dear me, no.

Careerist politicians such as Harris et al and the shithouse political games they play make me feel physically sick.

A R Jones (Me)
22nd October 2024


HOW 'LONELY LITTLE' GEORGE H.W. BUSH CHANGED THE US-ISRAEL RELATIONSHIP

The 41st president beat AIPAC [The American Israel Public Affairs Committee] , but lost 24% of his Jewish backing after confronting Israel over the settlements; it’s a lesson US leaders since have taken to heart

WASHINGTON — Former Israeli ambassador to the United States Michael Oren once castigated Barack Obama for not abiding by the principle of “no daylight” and “no surprises.” That was most reflected, the Israeli diplomat emphasized, in Obama’s publicly castigating Israel’s settlements.

But Obama was not the first president to make Israeli settlements such a point of contention. Former president George H.W. Bush, who died Friday night, went much further than him, in fact.

Bush, who was president from 1989 to 1993, forever changed American politics when he exerted his power to curtail the settlement enterprise and faced a vehement backlash.

He made clear the cost of an American president waging a political fight against the vast coalition of pro-Israel lobbying groups. In doing so, he exposed the limits of what the world’s most powerful man can do when trying to solve the world’s seemingly most intractable conflict.

One of the most controversial moments of his single-term presidency was when Bush delayed Israel loan guarantees until it halted its settlement building in the West Bank and Gaza and entered a peace conference with the Palestinians, what would later became known as the Madrid Peace Conference.

The United States had previously agreed to provide Israel $10 billion in loan guarantees to help Soviet Jews resettle in Israel. But in September 1991, Bush said that the United States would not issue those guarantees until prime minister Yitzhak Shamir agreed to those demands.

“It is in the best interest of the peace process and of peace itself that consideration of this absorption aid question for Israel be deferred for simply 120 days,” Bush told reporters. “I think the American people will strongly support me in this. I’m going to fight for it because I think this is what the American people want, and I’m going to do absolutely everything I can to back those members of the United States Congress who are forward-looking in their desire to see peace.”

That set off a bitter political fight on Capitol Hill, with pro-Israel organizations, most notably the powerful American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), seeking to muster enough Congressional support to override the president.

During that quagmire, Bush famously complained that “there are 1,000 lobbyists up on the Hill today lobbying Congress for loan guarantees for Israel and I’m one lonely little guy down here asking Congress to delay its consideration of loan guarantees for 120 days.”

The notion of the president — leader of the world’s only super power — as “one lonely little guy” going up against the pro-Israel lobby has become a staple of the narrative that Israel backers wield excessive power in the American political system.

But it’s worth noting that, in this particular battle, the US pro-Israel lobby didn’t win its fight against the American president.
Bush at the time enjoyed a 70 percent approval rating. While the American Jewish community was mobilized on the issue, it was not prepared to declare all-out war on the popular president over it.

AIPAC and Congressional leaders dropped the fight over the 120-day delay. Eventually, Bush’s diplomatic efforts worked and Israel entered the Madrid Peace Conference in October 1991.

While an undeniable achievement for Bush, that episode was not without its costs. Bush’s backing by American Jews took a nosedive immediately thereafter, despite his landmark support for helping Jews escape trouble spots around the world, from Russia to Syria to Ethiopia.

Receiving 35% of the Jewish vote in 1988, Bush only got 11% in 1992, when he lost to Bill Clinton. Only one Republican nominee for president has received a smaller portion of Jewish support — when Barry Goldwater claimed just 10% in 1964. Roughly 25% of American Jews voted for Donald Trump in 2016.

Bush’s defeat in 1992 was not mainly because of his contentious relationship with Israel. Rather, Bill Clinton seized upon the economic frustrations of American voters. “It’s the economy, stupid,” Clinton’s adviser James Carville memorably said.

But American presidents have since been cautious to avoid paying for challenging Israel like that — for using their leverage — and none really has, especially not in their first term.

Clinton made sure to abide by the principle of keeping differences with Israel private; and he certainly had differences with Netanyahu during the Israeli premier’s first go-round from 1996 to 1999.

George W. Bush, the elder Bush’s son, was careful not to criticize Israel during his first term, which took place during the Second Intifada. But after he won reelection, he spoke out against Israel occasionally, including on settlements. He was also the first president to call for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state.

While Obama had a difficult relationship with Netanyahu early on — his calling for a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders with swaps, his pressing Netanyahu to back two states and freeze West Bank settlement construction — he saved the biggest fight for his second term: brokering a nuclear agreement with Iran that Netanyahu and virtually all of Israel hated.

It was not until the very end of his presidency that Obama allowed the passage of a UN Security Council resolution that criticized settlements, having protected Israel with his veto throughout the first 7.9 years of his time in the White House.

The fact that he waited until his last days in office, despite an increasingly acrimonious relationship with the Netanyahu administration, was a sign that Bush’s hard-learned lesson has continued to reverberate in Washington.


Eric Cortellessa
2 Dec 2018,

Source:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-lonely-little-george-h-w-bush-changed-the-us-israel-relationship/


🔥🌏🌎🌍🔥

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🇬🇧


FUCK PARTY POLITICAL JOURNALISM