Something fishy on DU

Blackwolf said:Just Observing ;

And Now For Something Totally In Sync :

https://youtu.be/UrbVZ1nfWkk

Hahaha lol very fitting

Carpe_Noctem said:

Remember 50 words back in the day? Fucktonne of my writes are posted on the likes of those kinds of threads.

I remember the old rap battle threads back in the day lol.
I often go back and look at what was wrote.

Blackwolf said:Just Observing ;

And Now For Something Totally In Sync :

https://youtu.be/UrbVZ1nfWkk


These, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNzFn_Oxds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4uVWccEys

Just asked if I could get support.
She’s laughing behind the scenes, and says I don’t need it.

MadameLavender said:


These, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNzFn_Oxds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4uVWccEys

I got to see the Three Stooges in person when I was a kid

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396376-censorship/

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396592-reply-to-a/

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396667-reply-to-a-2/

@Kinkpoet

Based on your behaviour, you obviously don't have all the facts or are pretending you don't.    

I suggest you consult with Madame Lavender as to how many times Sky was flagged for unprovoked attacks and how many times she was banned in response to said attacks since the beginning of this year - on Ahavati, myself, Missy and "the Mods".  
 
I certainly don't appreciate being referred to in the forum on multiple occasions as an "online sexual predator" aside from the repeated unsolicited insults against Ahavati.    
 
Her repeated unsubstantiated inferences and accusations that we pay moderators or via Carpe's account that we fix competions  is just petty and tiresome.  
 
And Ahavati has never bullied Tallen, but welcomed him to this site while he was at odds with other members over his return.    
 
Do yourself a favor and get your facts straight before you create further public spectacles and needlessly prolonge this drama.

Talk directly with the mods, specifically MadameLavender.

Johnny Blaze.
Why didn't you say all this 3 days ago?


Oh because you wanted to create further public spectacle and prolong the drama.

This thread was quiet for 3 days. Couldn't have that could you?

JohnnyBlaze said:http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396376-censorship/

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396592-reply-to-a/

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396667-reply-to-a-2/

@Kinkpoet

Based on your behaviour, you obviously don't have all the facts or are pretending you don't.    

I suggest you consult with Madame Lavender as to how many times Sky was flagged for unprovoked attacks and how many times she was banned in response to said attacks since the beginning of this year - on Ahavati, myself, Missy and "the Mods".  
 
I certainly don't appreciate being referred to in the forum on multiple occasions as an "online sexual predator" aside from the repeated unsolicited insults against Ahavati.    
 
Her repeated unsubstantiated inferences and accusations that we pay moderators or via Carpe's account that we fix competions  is just petty and tiresome.  
 
And Ahavati has never bullied Tallen, but welcomed him to this site while he was at odds with other members over his return.    
 
Do yourself a favor and get your facts straight before you create further public spectacles and needlessly prolonge this drama.

Talk directly with the mods, specifically MadameLavender.



Open message to Lead Moderator MadameLavender:

I prefer to do this openly rather than through private messaging so that all of us have the same information.
If there is a rule or policy preventing that, could you post that as well with the rationale?
Hopefully you have been monitoring. the situation
JohnnyBlaze has kindly placed links to the ongoing discourse, for ease of access
If you have any useful information for those of us who are not fully informed, could you please share it here. I prefer complete factual information rather than opinions,.

I believe the main concerns are in regard to harassment, bullying, false accusations,, censorship (or the appearance of it),  and favoritism by mods.

If you can specifically address those issues, I think it would be a benefit to the DUP community.

It would also be helpful to post information about the role of moderators and an outline of the policies they use to make decisions and how they determine the type and duration of sanctions.

Would it be possible to post policies and procedures somewhere on the site for all to see. I think that sort of transparency might help to minimize future misunderstandings.

Thank you for you’re work volunteering as a moderator. I’m sure it is a challenge.

I look forward to your response.

(I will send a link to this post through PM so that you are aware)

-Kinkpoet

MadameLavender said:


These, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNzFn_Oxds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv4uVWccEys

Funny videos!

I sent this via  PM but I’m placing it here in case you missed it.

Moderator
Sent to MadameLavender 13th September 2020 1:01pm

Hello,
It was suggested by JohnnyBlaze that I contact you for information.
Here is a link to the pertinent post.
Your help is greatly appreciated.

https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/speakeasy/read/11569/90/#496999

I personally like this link ( and some of the comments under it )! [/sarcasm]

https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/396053-lavender-madame/

Also, don't forget she has already attempted to explain things ( as well as SanPedro ) in comments to this poem. If you truly wanted to search for the truth, rather than creating drama on your DU poet's page, you would read this thread in full ( which is why Johnny bumped it for you ), where it contains a screenshot of the latest atack ( that you say you have not seen; therefore, can make no judgment, while making the judgment that Sky was wrongly banned. Right ).

This will all end. Cleaning up after a *shitstorm* is never easy, and many want it just to go away. But then it returns again, and again, and the verbal attacks continue. HELL to the no. Clean the shit up once and for all.

Ahavati said:Also, don't forget she has already attempted to explain things ( as well as SanPedro ) in comments to this poem. If you truly wanted to search for the truth, rather than creating drama on your DU poet's page, you would read this thread in full ( which is why Johnny bumped it for you ), where it contains a screenshot of the latest atack ( that you say you have not seen; therefore, can make no judgment, while making the judgment that Sky was wrongly banned. Right ).

This will all end. Cleaning up after a *shitstorm* is never easy, and many want it just to go away. But then it returns again, and again, and the verbal attacks continue. HELL to the no. Clean the shit up once and for all.

http://deepundergroundpoetry.com/poems/391604-penalty-box/

And if you submitted a poem inspired by MadameLavender's name on Sept 7 and have responded to her comments about Sky's 2nd banning on your own poem submitted July 27th, you already knew who she was.

JohnnyBlaze said:

And if you submitted a poem inspired by MadameLavender's name on Sept 7 and have responded to her comments about Sky's 2nd banning on your own poem submitted July 27th, you already knew who she was.



Touché.

Poets are a different breed. As writers we have an insight into the world  of emotions . We are also very creative with language and with metaphors having the ability to express ourselves in either a positive or negative light bringing joy or heartache to the reader

The poet now has an opportunity to publish their work on a web based platform.
This  has allowed poets to come together to share their work or related interests.
Naturally one can expect in an atmosphere of free expression their will be discord.

Hashing out differences of opinion can be tricky if one of the parties in disagreement resorts to " flaming"

* Flaming is the online act of posting insults, often laced with profanity or other offensive language on social networking sites (*Wikipedia)

2] Anonymity can lead to disinhibition, which results in the swearing, offensive, and hostile language characteristic of flaming. Lack of social cues, less accountability of face-to-face communications, textual mediation and deindividualization are also likely factors.[3]Deliberate flaming is carried out by individuals known as flamers, which are specifically motivated to incite flaming. These users specialize in flaming and target specific aspects of a controversial conversation (Wikipedia)

We have witnessed this behavior recently and need to see it for what it is 
It is not an expression of opinion it is harrassment, insulting, hurtful it is flaming.
The reasos  for the flaming are mere excuses for the behavior .

Often times the motivation of the flamer is to disengage as many readers as they can to a specific conversation 
The flamer is successful due to the reader not wanting to catch flying insults 

SkyDancer is a friend of mine as is Kinkpoet and AP

I cannot condone her "flaming" behavior that occurred recently I can't support it and cannot justify it.

I contacted her shortly after her post to ask her what was the basis of her recent post I did not receive an answer 

She may have already been banned 
Sky would have answered me if she wasn't.

As online friends and aquaintances we need to have each other's backs most importantly we need to call each other out when we see a friend exhibiting the type of behavior that is harmful to others. 

Accusations or tattle tale don't belong on DU forums 

They belong in the moderators or the Web Miss lap. The accusations that were flying concerning a belief that mods are "paid off" is a legitimate concern to some but the way the concern was addressed was wrong. 

Kinkpoet sets a good example by addressing his concerns publicly
and by PM.
This way there is privacy available for answers or debate or a public forum if the Web Miss would like to share. 

It's disheartening to see a friend in a social downward spiral we need to avoid this as much as we can We read each other's work we should be able to tell if they are in a bad situation and be there for them if they need to talk it out 

Reach out to your fellow poet embrace the moderators 
Reject online harrassment and flaming

I love you SkyDancer and am always here for you