do we want the BAME competition to be a DUP feature?

52.94% • 9 votes • nie
47.06% • 8 votes • aye
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do we want the BAME competition to be a DUP feature?

Blackwolf
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Does anyone want to invite them to
become members of this site ?

( I am not on Facebook , Twitter ,
or other sites they may belong to )

lepperochan
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anna_grin said:

i don't expect they will,  but you cant make a poll with only one answer  i'm just gonna assume they're racist or trolling but any other input would be helpful


haven't voted so I dunno what the score is. i think this comment quoted destroyed  the poll anyway


This is not America, when people come here nobody really cares about their skin colour or what fraction of their blood is this or that

Its absolutely discernable from the threads and competitions nobody really cares.thats because there is no boundaries or cages or rules here which impede anyone's rights


that said, I dont think the thread or a competition would be a bad thing. i dont really see it taking off.  as evidenced in any comps or discussions in the 10 years I've been here


anna_grin
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lepperochan said:

haven't voted so I dunno what the score is. i think this comment quoted destroyed  the poll anyway


This is not America, when people come here nobody really cares about their skin colour or what fraction of their blood is this or that

Its absolutely discernable from the threads and competitions nobody really cares.thats because there is no boundaries or cages or rules here which impede anyone's rights


that said, I dont think the thread or a competition would be a bad thing. i dont really see it taking off.  as evidenced in any comps or discussions in the 10 years I've been here



okay that does clarify things. thanks. you might be right about the comment, might not be. i can’t be a perfect peacemaker it’s just not in me.

in regards to the rest , sit back and watch, old man

anna_grin
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Blackwolf said:Does anyone want to invite them to
become members of this site ?

( I am not on Facebook , Twitter ,
or other sites they may belong to )


we’ve got black and minority ethnic members already bw

hemihead
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anna_grin said:

ah, yes there are those who see equity as an attack against equality. the fact is that the western culture of poetry is a historically white dominated institution and a space for black / minority poets is just a stone on the other side of the scale.  its still heavily skewed white and i'd challenge anyone to prove it's not


Long story short, I agree with your statement...mostly

But....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_poetry


(Poetry is ooooold, and is discernible in many cultures.....whitey got no hold on it. It is certainly true that libraries in western countries mostly got old white dudes, but the history is much much richer. Could make a fair argument that the largest body of written poetry is in China. Agree people need a voice though...own some very good Australian indigenous poetry, and helped me understand the Australia they were experiencing when I was there)

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anna_grin said:

okay that does clarify things. thanks. you might be right about the comment, might not be. i can’t be a perfect peacemaker it’s just not in me.

in regards to the rest , sit back and watch, old man


always open to sitting my old bones down to be schooled. 'specially when the teacher is of such calibre


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hemihead said:

Long story short, I agree with your statement...mostly

But....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_poetry


(Poetry is ooooold, and is discernible in many cultures.....whitey got no hold on it. It is certainly true that libraries in western countries mostly got old white dudes, but the history is much much richer. Could make a fair argument that the largest body of written poetry is in China. Agree people need a voice though...own some very good Australian indigenous poetry, and helped me understand the Australia they were experiencing when I was there)


i know about poetry’s history being much richer than the west’s portrayal.

fact is, fax is, this site typifies that western power imbalance whether we like to admit it or not. founded by the English, overtaken by Americans, and largely ignorant of what that means and the responsibility we have to ensure balance.

i love it here but I’ve seen too many examples of racism and ignorance and have personally spoken to black poets who are loath to get involved because the space is too white. that’s not their problem, it’s ours.

i appreciate your bringing up the history of poetry i didn’t want to imply it was breathed into being by white folk

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I don't see it that way. I see it that site was set up by a poet ( if you listen to webmiss on the podcast you might hear a tinge of an accent) and open for for anyone of any ethnicity to join and take part.


there is no systematic racism here, I do agree there is some casual racism at times from people of different backgrounds and ethnicity.


I get messages all the time from members. for all kinds of reasons, never because a person felt their ethnicity was causing them trouble or strife because cunts. I've been in a position to help for some years now

I speak to members of ethnicity outside this site and I can say hand on heart there has never been a problem

there are 3 ethnic mods out of 5. so I really dont see where we have a problem. that said I'm happy to be shown




anna_grin
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im not saying there’s systemic racism intentionally put in place by the site at all i think you misunderstand me

lepperochan
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nah, just went on a bit of a rant :),  

I do understand and also think you are a force for good. a jedi

I think my point is yes the west has an odd way of incorporating inclusion. some places are still in the dark ages. likes of Poland and Hungry etc

it's tough out there. in here it's different :),

if it's not, it should be. so, I tip my hat to you

*hat tip*  

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One of my closest friends (brother) tried to talk me into writing a piece for your comp, but I sort of sat in the same camp with Tallen. Plus, even as an adult I don't really identify with any of my ethnicity, which has been a sore spot and a struggle for me all of my life. It's difficult to feel you have no real group, traditions, or culture.

I think the idea you're proposing is really fantastic. I can't see it as being anything other than positive :)

poet Anonymous

I voted YES 5 times and I've already got a new non-entry ready for the next!

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JohnnyBlaze said:I voted YES 5 times and I've already got a new non-entry ready for the next!

This is a serious breach of guidelines. you cant use different profiles to vote. last person who caught doing it got a fair whack of a sanction


I understand you could be joking about it. so, just in case you gave anyone else the idea to do it, they should know it is more than looked down upon


Illl have to ask the webmiss to have a look see

poet Anonymous

lepperochan said:

This is a serious breach of guidelines. you cant use different profiles to vote. last person who caught doing it got a fair whack of a sanction


I understand you could be joking about it. so, just in case you gave anyone else the idea to do it, they should know it is more than looked down upon


Illl have to ask the webmiss to have a look see


Of course I'm joking about it, because there are only 5 votes so far and obviously other people voted yes. But you go ahead and jump right on on the case.

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