Corona Virus ( Covid-19 )
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I keep seeing comparisons between the coronavirus and the flu everywhere—the W.H.O. report that Covid-19 has a death rate of 3.4% which is many times higher than the flu. Flu has a death rate of .0143%.
The good news—it doesn’t seem to be as easily transmitted and no children under 9 have died from the infection.
I know we have board members from certain areas, such as Italy, who followed Japan's lead by closing schools to prevent the spread of the disease. North Carolina just diagnosed its first case linked to a Seattle Nursing home.
Has this virus impacted your area, or affected someone you know?
Coronavirus Live Updates: L.A. and N.Y. Find More Cases, as U.S. Testing and Deaths Increase
Three weeks after a man died in Spain, tests showed he had the virus, officials said, in the latest indication that it was spreading undetected for some time.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.html?fbclid=IwAR2vpE3zrjRLd3u8KqW4THEmeOqD5KRKCdO0ewRjEjo7hwrLD8YIIGaa0RA
The good news—it doesn’t seem to be as easily transmitted and no children under 9 have died from the infection.
I know we have board members from certain areas, such as Italy, who followed Japan's lead by closing schools to prevent the spread of the disease. North Carolina just diagnosed its first case linked to a Seattle Nursing home.
Has this virus impacted your area, or affected someone you know?
Coronavirus Live Updates: L.A. and N.Y. Find More Cases, as U.S. Testing and Deaths Increase
Three weeks after a man died in Spain, tests showed he had the virus, officials said, in the latest indication that it was spreading undetected for some time.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.html?fbclid=IwAR2vpE3zrjRLd3u8KqW4THEmeOqD5KRKCdO0ewRjEjo7hwrLD8YIIGaa0RA
i heard it mostly affects people 63+ and the very young -- ALL who have some health issue going on.
While my age has nothing to do with my going out and purchasing the stuff to protect ....... I WAS NEVER CONCERNED i still went out today on my Food shopping to purchase the ingredients for a Homemade antiseptic gel: Isopropyl alcohol, Aloe Vera Gel & any Herbal ointment -- i got me Tea Tree Oil.
i must not be the only one making this as i got the LAST 2 BOTTLES of the Isopropyl alcohol, on the shelf!!
I've never got the Flu-shot other than when i had to while serving in the USAF, but no longer do and do (as much as monetarily can -- healing via herbs and plants and remedies learned from Shamans and other mentors i've sewn relationships throughout my life.
While my age has nothing to do with my going out and purchasing the stuff to protect ....... I WAS NEVER CONCERNED i still went out today on my Food shopping to purchase the ingredients for a Homemade antiseptic gel: Isopropyl alcohol, Aloe Vera Gel & any Herbal ointment -- i got me Tea Tree Oil.
i must not be the only one making this as i got the LAST 2 BOTTLES of the Isopropyl alcohol, on the shelf!!
I've never got the Flu-shot other than when i had to while serving in the USAF, but no longer do and do (as much as monetarily can -- healing via herbs and plants and remedies learned from Shamans and other mentors i've sewn relationships throughout my life.
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While there have been deaths in those younger than 63 ( Doctors included ), the mystery miracle is that it's merciful to children.
'We simply do not understand why': Coronavirus is sparing children, puzzling experts.
"What's the secret to their success? We're just happy they do have success against this particular virus," one said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147951
'We simply do not understand why': Coronavirus is sparing children, puzzling experts.
"What's the secret to their success? We're just happy they do have success against this particular virus," one said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147951
Ahavati said:While there have been deaths in those younger than 63 ( Doctors included ), the mystery miracle is that it's merciful to children.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147951
i'm sure Madame Lavender can enlighten us more on this,
but IMHO the young are born with inate soldiers to combat NEW shit and why they seem to be more resistant to the virus.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1147951
i'm sure Madame Lavender can enlighten us more on this,
but IMHO the young are born with inate soldiers to combat NEW shit and why they seem to be more resistant to the virus.
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I’ll get back to you , hopefully tomorrow —I’m presently working a 13 hour day/evening today—stay tuned
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Much appreciated, Madame!
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81 confirmed cases in the UK and spreading. Most caught it from travelling Italy / Iran. But today saw the first cases of people catching it from UK soil. Generally there’s mass panic and frankly my OCD doesn’t cope well with germs at the best of times. And now this bullshit.
Also let me assure you that the new James Bond film pushing its release date back to November because of the virus is a truly unbelievable amount of paperwork.
Also let me assure you that the new James Bond film pushing its release date back to November because of the virus is a truly unbelievable amount of paperwork.
Miss_Sub said:81 confirmed cases in the UK and spreading. Most caught it from travelling Italy / Iran. But today saw the first cases of people catching it from UK soil. Generally there’s mass panic and frankly my OCD doesn’t cope well with germs at the best of times. And now this bullshit.
Also let me assure you that the new James Bond film pushing its release date back to November because of the virus is a truly unbelievable amount of paperwork.
My sister told me this past weekend that Costco and Walmart shelves were empty of aniseptic's and wipes.
& so today, i purchased Isopropyl alcohol, Tea Tee oil and Aloe Vera gel, to make my own anti-septic spray.
Also let me assure you that the new James Bond film pushing its release date back to November because of the virus is a truly unbelievable amount of paperwork.
My sister told me this past weekend that Costco and Walmart shelves were empty of aniseptic's and wipes.
& so today, i purchased Isopropyl alcohol, Tea Tee oil and Aloe Vera gel, to make my own anti-septic spray.
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I have my own spray made with four thieves oil. That shit kills everything.
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I'm looking right into it's Corona , and staring it down...
It does *not* want to fuck with me
I drink beer much stronger than any Corona anyway...
If anyone is scared of it , greater chance it will get you...fear makes your system more vulnerable...
Old knowledge
If someone is concerned , and knows old magick ,
they can inscribe the symbols for the realm of
formation onto their torso , hips and shoulders ,
with frankincense and myrrh....
Just sayin'
It does *not* want to fuck with me
I drink beer much stronger than any Corona anyway...
If anyone is scared of it , greater chance it will get you...fear makes your system more vulnerable...
Old knowledge
If someone is concerned , and knows old magick ,
they can inscribe the symbols for the realm of
formation onto their torso , hips and shoulders ,
with frankincense and myrrh....
Just sayin'
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Ok I’m back—for starters , here’s your best and most up to date source for Corona info:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
Next, as far as it primarily affecting the 63+ crowd : the immune system in our bodies weaken as we age and a slower and lesser of an antibody response happens across the board . We still make antibodies that fight infection, they still do their job , but it’s not as quick and when we were younger and packs a little less punch .
The immune system itself doesn’t start to kick in until 3 months of age after birth and whatever immunity a newborn baby has, is whatever antibodies came from the mom by way of crossing the placenta while in utero.
As far as kids not being drastically affected—once the immune system does kick in at 3 months , it’s pretty darn good and fast at making antibodies but with all immune response in anyone , there has to be an initial sensitization stage where the cells that make antibodies get to know the virus or other antigens as we call things that are foreign to one’s body and will cause an immune response by way of antibodies or cellular response (natural killer cells, cytotoxic T-cells , macrophages , etc) from the types of white blood cells.
Kids get exposed to a whole lot of germs and while they do get sick, they also make a memory immune response which kicks in faster the next time they’re exposed to the same antigen and lasts for life.
As a lab tech , we see more influenza B and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) affecting kids and right now in the US, corona testing all goes to the CDC—it’s not something that the regular hospital labs test for but we do collect and send the samples along.
For more insight on how the immune system works , have a visit with Armandoh and watch his immunology videos found here—they’re short 5-15 min , and I use his videos on all topics in my classroom to solidify whatever I’m teaching at any point in the semester :
https://armandoh.org/subjects/
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
Next, as far as it primarily affecting the 63+ crowd : the immune system in our bodies weaken as we age and a slower and lesser of an antibody response happens across the board . We still make antibodies that fight infection, they still do their job , but it’s not as quick and when we were younger and packs a little less punch .
The immune system itself doesn’t start to kick in until 3 months of age after birth and whatever immunity a newborn baby has, is whatever antibodies came from the mom by way of crossing the placenta while in utero.
As far as kids not being drastically affected—once the immune system does kick in at 3 months , it’s pretty darn good and fast at making antibodies but with all immune response in anyone , there has to be an initial sensitization stage where the cells that make antibodies get to know the virus or other antigens as we call things that are foreign to one’s body and will cause an immune response by way of antibodies or cellular response (natural killer cells, cytotoxic T-cells , macrophages , etc) from the types of white blood cells.
Kids get exposed to a whole lot of germs and while they do get sick, they also make a memory immune response which kicks in faster the next time they’re exposed to the same antigen and lasts for life.
As a lab tech , we see more influenza B and RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) affecting kids and right now in the US, corona testing all goes to the CDC—it’s not something that the regular hospital labs test for but we do collect and send the samples along.
For more insight on how the immune system works , have a visit with Armandoh and watch his immunology videos found here—they’re short 5-15 min , and I use his videos on all topics in my classroom to solidify whatever I’m teaching at any point in the semester :
https://armandoh.org/subjects/
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Thank you, Madame. I do keep up with the CDC; however, I also monitor the W.H.O. as well because I am really concerned about the control President Trump is attempting to exert over the CDC. I just finished this article released a few hours ago:
As CDC Says 'Do Not Go to Work,' Trump Says Thousands With Coronavirus Could Go to Work and Get Better.
"These are really dangerous lies."
Trump also claimed in the interview with Hannity that the World Health Organization's (WHO) estimate of a 3.4% global death rate from coronavirus is a "false number."
"This is just my hunch," the president said.
Source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/05/cdc-says-do-not-go-work-trump-says-thousands-coronavirus-could-go-work-and-get
While I certainly don't want to a panic on this country's hands, neither did China, who failed to listen to Doctors who not only attempted to warn the public about the Corona virus, but ended up dead as well ( not implying ours will ). I sense Trump is making the same mistake here.
19 cases [ in the U.S. ] have been in patients with neither a relevant travel history nor clear epidemiologic links to other confirmed COVID-19 patients.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6909e1.htm?s_cid=mm6909e1_w
Thus this thread—hopefully together as a global community, we could shed some light on the truth. . .or, at least what's available of it.
Thank you again for your response. I plan to watch the links you provided this afternoon, and may have more to say.
As CDC Says 'Do Not Go to Work,' Trump Says Thousands With Coronavirus Could Go to Work and Get Better.
"These are really dangerous lies."
Trump also claimed in the interview with Hannity that the World Health Organization's (WHO) estimate of a 3.4% global death rate from coronavirus is a "false number."
"This is just my hunch," the president said.
Source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/05/cdc-says-do-not-go-work-trump-says-thousands-coronavirus-could-go-work-and-get
While I certainly don't want to a panic on this country's hands, neither did China, who failed to listen to Doctors who not only attempted to warn the public about the Corona virus, but ended up dead as well ( not implying ours will ). I sense Trump is making the same mistake here.
19 cases [ in the U.S. ] have been in patients with neither a relevant travel history nor clear epidemiologic links to other confirmed COVID-19 patients.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6909e1.htm?s_cid=mm6909e1_w
Thus this thread—hopefully together as a global community, we could shed some light on the truth. . .or, at least what's available of it.
Thank you again for your response. I plan to watch the links you provided this afternoon, and may have more to say.
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LOL @ Socks! Only if you take a selfie in the hospital and email it to us! We'll get Madame Lavender to verify!
I am glad someone in our country is taking this more seriously than a 'hunch'.
House, Senate strike deal on $8 billion funding package to combat coronavirus
"This should not be about politics; this is about doing our job to protect the American people from a potential pandemic," said Sen. Richard Shelby, the Senate appropriations chairman. "We worked together to craft an aggressive and comprehensive response that provides the resources the experts say they need to combat this crisis."
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All of the U.S. deaths from coronavirus have come from Washington state. Washington accounts for 27 of the 118 cases reported in the U.S., and state officials said 231 people are under public health supervision.
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Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/04/coronavirus-house-senate-strike-deal-8-3-billion-package/4944629002/?fbclid=IwAR3T04Lbv5AIclwKIMbUtcD10u4qzXzvfd07Of-KUzpBx5YsMTVcDX00VwY
Stephen King's The Stand anyone?
I am glad someone in our country is taking this more seriously than a 'hunch'.
House, Senate strike deal on $8 billion funding package to combat coronavirus
"This should not be about politics; this is about doing our job to protect the American people from a potential pandemic," said Sen. Richard Shelby, the Senate appropriations chairman. "We worked together to craft an aggressive and comprehensive response that provides the resources the experts say they need to combat this crisis."
[ . . . ]
All of the U.S. deaths from coronavirus have come from Washington state. Washington accounts for 27 of the 118 cases reported in the U.S., and state officials said 231 people are under public health supervision.
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Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/03/04/coronavirus-house-senate-strike-deal-8-3-billion-package/4944629002/?fbclid=IwAR3T04Lbv5AIclwKIMbUtcD10u4qzXzvfd07Of-KUzpBx5YsMTVcDX00VwY
Stephen King's The Stand anyone?