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SAINT VALENTINE'S DAY
SAINT VALENTINE'S DAY
The world still has some people who believe
in that pure life in which Saint Valentine
was keen on seeing spouses would attain
the life which was so full of Jesus' bliss.
It is the way that keeps their love aflame
and joins them from the moment when it starts.
It is the kind of love that will increase
till it becomes the lord of the two hearts.
The two will get like one. None can divide
as each will see their duty in the world
through what the other needs to have a smile
and when it shows itself, he feels so pleased.
Each yearns to see the joy on their mate's face.
It makes them love the world and live at peace.
Their world will start to be quite full of mirth
when they get old but still their love is young.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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The world still has some people who believe
in that pure life in which Saint Valentine
was keen on seeing spouses would attain
the life which was so full of Jesus' bliss.
It is the way that keeps their love aflame
and joins them from the moment when it starts.
It is the kind of love that will increase
till it becomes the lord of the two hearts.
The two will get like one. None can divide
as each will see their duty in the world
through what the other needs to have a smile
and when it shows itself, he feels so pleased.
Each yearns to see the joy on their mate's face.
It makes them love the world and live at peace.
Their world will start to be quite full of mirth
when they get old but still their love is young.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
____________________________________
Published 14th Feb 2023
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"The world still has some people who believe
in that pure life in which Saint Valentine
was keen on seeing spouses would attain
the life which was so full of Jesus' bliss."
Please show me where St. Valentine indicated that he was keen on seeing that spouses would attain a pure life, let alone a blissful one.
https://theconversation.com/the-real-st-valentine-was-no-patron-of-love-90518
And didn't you say that trying to obtain happiness through married bliss is fruitless since death swallows all and can not make life meaningful?
In any case, what evidence do you have that any couples who wish to get married do so because they wish their marriage to be full of Jesus's bliss, whatever that is?
in that pure life in which Saint Valentine
was keen on seeing spouses would attain
the life which was so full of Jesus' bliss."
Please show me where St. Valentine indicated that he was keen on seeing that spouses would attain a pure life, let alone a blissful one.
https://theconversation.com/the-real-st-valentine-was-no-patron-of-love-90518
And didn't you say that trying to obtain happiness through married bliss is fruitless since death swallows all and can not make life meaningful?
In any case, what evidence do you have that any couples who wish to get married do so because they wish their marriage to be full of Jesus's bliss, whatever that is?
15th Feb 2023 9:23am
Dear Baldwin,
1- W
hen people get married, their sex gets pure, and an act of blessed love.
2- you say:
And didn't you say that trying to obtain happiness through married bliss is fruitless since death swallows all and can not make life meaningful?
No, ldidn't say so.
1- W
hen people get married, their sex gets pure, and an act of blessed love.
2- you say:
And didn't you say that trying to obtain happiness through married bliss is fruitless since death swallows all and can not make life meaningful?
No, ldidn't say so.
15th Feb 2023 12:05pm
Please show me where St. Valentine indicated that he was keen on seeing that spouses would attain a pure life, let alone a blissful one.
15th Feb 2023 12:34pm
Dear Baldwin,
1- l told you where Saint Valentine helped people to be pure. He helped them to get married a Christian marriage, which is a permanent marriage, and in this way they wouldn't have free sex. I mentioned that in number one of my previous answer.
2- Please Baldwin, don't relate anything to me if l haven't said it.
1- l told you where Saint Valentine helped people to be pure. He helped them to get married a Christian marriage, which is a permanent marriage, and in this way they wouldn't have free sex. I mentioned that in number one of my previous answer.
2- Please Baldwin, don't relate anything to me if l haven't said it.
"Dear Baldwin,
1- l told you where Saint Valentine helped people to be pure."
No, you only told me THAT St. Valentine helped people to be pure.
You did NOT show me where(i.e., in what writing of his) Valentine advocated what you say he advocated, let alone what the location was where he supposedly engaged in the action you said he engaged in.
And you have ignored the (admittedly legendary) evidence that the reason Valentine married couples was to spare the husbands from war, not to make the couples pure.
I asked for a citation from a text written by St. Valentine or in an actual quotation of something he wrote or said) in which he can be seen as advocating what you say he advocated. You failed to produce what I asked for -- no doubt because you have no idea if such a text exists, let alone in what written work it can be found.
So once again, you've posted a red herring.
Moreover, there are plenty of examples that show that marriage, especially among Evangelical Christians, is hardly regarded as something held to be permanent marriage, let alone as making one "pure".
"For many married Christian couples, it is nearly unimaginable that a spouse might cheat. In reality, though, infidelity amongst religious couples remains nearly as high as the national average, which hovers around 60 percent, according to Dr. Willard F. Farley Jr., licensed psychologist and author of His Needs, Her Needs: Building an Affair-Proof Marriage. A survey from Ashley Madison, a website made to set married people up with affairs, shows over 70 percent of its users label themselves as Christian."
https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/survey-reveals-faiths-unfaithful-article-1.1815733
https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=137892
And you certainly haven't shown that "pagan" marriages, when they were allowed (which they were not under Emperor Claudius II because of his view that marriages prevented men from becoming the soldiers he needed for his armies) were not permanent.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/st-valentine-beheaded
"2- Please Baldwin, don't relate [??] anything to me if l haven't said it."
Leaving aside the fact that the remarks I've "related" to you have been about things you **have** said, please don't claim, as you have above, that you fulfilled requests I've made of you when it is demonstrable that you haven't.
1- l told you where Saint Valentine helped people to be pure."
No, you only told me THAT St. Valentine helped people to be pure.
You did NOT show me where(i.e., in what writing of his) Valentine advocated what you say he advocated, let alone what the location was where he supposedly engaged in the action you said he engaged in.
And you have ignored the (admittedly legendary) evidence that the reason Valentine married couples was to spare the husbands from war, not to make the couples pure.
I asked for a citation from a text written by St. Valentine or in an actual quotation of something he wrote or said) in which he can be seen as advocating what you say he advocated. You failed to produce what I asked for -- no doubt because you have no idea if such a text exists, let alone in what written work it can be found.
So once again, you've posted a red herring.
Moreover, there are plenty of examples that show that marriage, especially among Evangelical Christians, is hardly regarded as something held to be permanent marriage, let alone as making one "pure".
"For many married Christian couples, it is nearly unimaginable that a spouse might cheat. In reality, though, infidelity amongst religious couples remains nearly as high as the national average, which hovers around 60 percent, according to Dr. Willard F. Farley Jr., licensed psychologist and author of His Needs, Her Needs: Building an Affair-Proof Marriage. A survey from Ashley Madison, a website made to set married people up with affairs, shows over 70 percent of its users label themselves as Christian."
https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/survey-reveals-faiths-unfaithful-article-1.1815733
https://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=137892
And you certainly haven't shown that "pagan" marriages, when they were allowed (which they were not under Emperor Claudius II because of his view that marriages prevented men from becoming the soldiers he needed for his armies) were not permanent.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/st-valentine-beheaded
"2- Please Baldwin, don't relate [??] anything to me if l haven't said it."
Leaving aside the fact that the remarks I've "related" to you have been about things you **have** said, please don't claim, as you have above, that you fulfilled requests I've made of you when it is demonstrable that you haven't.
