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Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
I don’t need James Corden’s crocodile tears
I don’t want Sadiq Kahn ratcheting up our fears
I don’t need Theresa May’s “we will not be broken”
I don’t want Taylor Swift’s prayers as yet unspoken
Harry_Styles is heart broken
Reese Witherspoon is also heart broken
Katy Perry is broken hearted
Lena Dunham says her heart breaks
Kylie Minogue is absolutely heartbroken
Niki Minaj, told her fans her heart hurts
Liam Gallagher is totally devastated
Ariana Grande has no words
Lilly Allen wants to bless everyone
So say a bunch of pampered sycophants
From their security guarded palatial palaces
Who will do anything to serve themselves
Promoting shows and selling records
What gives them the right to profess sadness?
And breaking hearts; it’s all just fake
Professional liars and victim hijackers
I wouldn’t piss on any of them if they were on fire
Unless I was pissing gasoline
Enough with the celebrity fake grief
Enough with celebrities preaching opinions
Fuck these assholes
The dust has settled
Nobody talks about it anymore
It’s like it never happened
Preferring to talk about Islamaphobia
What we all need is a dose of honesty
Let’s not call a spade a digging implement
It’s a fuckin spade for Christ sake
Islamaphobia is a myth, it’s a lie,
It doesn’t exist anywhere
British and American governments
Invented Islamaphobia and
‘Hate speech’ as a way of thwarting
The right to free speech and expression
A phobia is an irrational fear of something
My fear of Christian extremists and
Muslim extremists is not irrational
Again Islamaphobia does not exist
Why is it now irrational and illegal
To express a hatred for a bunch
Of murdering and torturing bastards
Stoning, burning and beheading
Islamic extremists are not Islam
Islamic terrorists are not truly Muslim
They are a radical fringe minority
I personally hate every one of them
And wish them nothing but death
The wolf is at the door and too many
Pigs are holding the door wide open
Too many people Hating on Trump
Hating Trump more than Isis WTF
Too many people hating the wrong people
Too much hatred for the innocent
Too much chatter about privilege
Too much nonsense about pronouns
Way too many gender choices
Celebrities Bullshit by the bucket
We talk about all that shite endlessly
Failing to recognize the enemy
We protest with increasing violence
Against the wrong targets
Yet Trojan horse warriors are already here
The true fight is out there
If they want Jihad and domination
If they want every country
To be under extreme Islamic control
It’s not gonna happen on my watch
If they want a fuckin war
If they really want a war
Then; let’s give it to them
We need another crusade
To hunt down and kill these Jhadists
Fuck the political correctness madness
These evil sub humans need
Wiped off the face of the planet
No more excuses
No more apologists
No more survivors
If you do nothing
Terror wins and you
Are on their side
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Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
Say it like it is David, too many people think and don't say, think and don't do, have misdirected hate and don't think at all. We give away everything that doesn't matter to us and when they come after what does does matter it is too late. We sat silently while they took everything from us. Hate for those deserving of hate is not wrong, everyone so busy stereotyping everyone is the true thing destroying us.
Thank you for the write.
Thank you for the write.
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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 2:25am
Thank you for the read - I spent a few weeks pondering whether to post it or not - that's where we are as a society - expressing these things today can loose you friends and / or worse. I refuse to be silenced and will stand up for and stand by what I write :-) it's how I am and want to be :-)
Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
16th Sep 2017 10:05pm
Love the way you just let em have it David. Fucking awesome. No mulberry bush to dance around, no sugar coated candy either...Love that. <3
Thats the way it should be.
Thats the way it should be.
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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 2:27am
when all else fails, try brutal honesty and all else has failed :-( thank you for recognising my need to vent :-) Big Hugs :-)
Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
Anonymous
17th Sep 2017 00:18am
Knowing people who were at that concert when it exploded, and being a regular to Manc, I can assure you the people of Manchester haven't forgotten anything. There's still reminders all around the city of its people coming together in such a unified and beautiful way.
I get where you're coming from about celebrity culture, but I actually think they were trying to do a good thing for the memory of the victims. I can't really knock them for the amount of money they raised for the families that were affected. That was the main itinerary.
Sadly, I don't believe fighting violence with violence is the answer... but like that great quote says "while I may not agree with your opinion, I will fight to the death your right to express it."
Thank you for the thought provoking read.
I get where you're coming from about celebrity culture, but I actually think they were trying to do a good thing for the memory of the victims. I can't really knock them for the amount of money they raised for the families that were affected. That was the main itinerary.
Sadly, I don't believe fighting violence with violence is the answer... but like that great quote says "while I may not agree with your opinion, I will fight to the death your right to express it."
Thank you for the thought provoking read.

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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 2:38am
the people of Manchester have been forgotten. Their newspaper stories and photos are being used to wrap up fish and chips. Is the rest of the world talking about it any news outlets following up the story and now another one in London and like the last one it will be forgotten in a matter of weeks until the next one. Celebrity culture is one of the most disgusting evils in the western world full of bandwagon jumpers and fake sentiment making sure that they are seen to seemingly care. The money was raised but less than their profile was, certainly got more twitter followers The money raised, great, but a drop in the ocean compare to their vast wealth. When you have a twisted ideology that doesn't fear death who have no negotiable demands apart from world domination then I am afraid violence becomes the only answer - negotiation is impossible. we either fight or go like lambs to the slaughter it feels like I am ranting all over again so i will stop thank you for the read and comments:-)
Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 00:53am
Of course this is just my opinion but I wouldn't go as far as to suggest that every celebrity's sadness on the matter is fake as much as I would assume they feel helpless. When you suggest that celebrities are selfish with fake opinions you're sort of, although I think unintentionally, doing the same thing society does which is paint one group with the same brush. There's a difference between all, most and some. I think that Ariana Grande especially did what she felt she could from her position and deserves credit for the benefit concert. The problem is the issue of changing the world as a whole is such a big issue to tackle for various reasons, so people end up doing nothing at all, or, what they can where they see success as a possibility. I don't necessarily hold that against everyone, sometimes we can only do our part and that's it. That said I can appreciate this rant and agree with a good portion of it. Feels like it just flowed out of you effortlessly which really adds to the expression itself. I enjoyed reading quite a bit. I too would like to see more humans thinking for themselves and becoming more aware of the world around them before it is too late, as well as working towards real progress. We can only hope, I guess. I'd like to believe that a lot of people believe change is worth fighting for.
Nice unfiltered rant.
Nice unfiltered rant.
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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 2:55am
I am doing exactly what society doesn't do very often - it's called brutal truth and yes it's my truth but it is also true for many who think these things privately but would dare say them in a public forum. Celebrity is a sickness it turns most ordinary people into savage cannibals ready to shaft anyone for a percentage or an advantage, they are liars, morally and ethically corrupt. There may be a few celebrities that are good people but most do good to boost their image and sales. Ariana Grande was shamed into giving mode when the media started covering stories about bad thing she had said on twitter about her fans - the very people who gave her the luxury to abuse. What if every celebrity who professed sadness about Manchester just privately gave i million dollars each - no fanfares, no publicity, rather than pontificating on the media. you have Hope - I do not - as far as I am concerned it's already too late when we accept terrorist acts as a normal part of city life as we are doing in Europe right now - I am sorry to go on but my goat has not been got, he's been slaughtered :-( thanks for the read and the comments :-)
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Oh I agree that society doesn't often speak or face brutal truths and I also agree with you that your version of truth is shared by others. I think it's good you voiced your thoughts and I think it's something more people should do. I tried googling and can't find what you're talking about regarding Ariana abusing fans other than tweeting about the objectification she felt from a male fan. Only other thing I found was something about her saying she wishes fans would die in an elevator in 2014 according to some 'industry insider' and isn't confirmed. If we assume it's true... it's hard to judge without context... people wish death upon others all the time and don't mean it literally, they say it out of frustration. Now if she was serious, yeah that's pretty bad. I never got the feeling her intentions for the benefit concert were bad, and I assume she would be traumatized by the incident because she is at the end of the day a human being. It happened during her concert after all, and you are aware that she personally covered funeral costs for all of the victims right? She didn't have to do that and I think it counts for something. And sure, each celebrity who expressed sadness could have given money in addition to the concert, I don't see anything wrong with your idea there. I can agree with you in that money and power corrupts a lot of people and I too am frustrated and disgusted with that notion. And yes you're right I do have some hope left still. It's possible it could dwindle in the future but for now it's still around.
I get what you're saying about how it feels like these attacks are being normalized so to speak and I understand your anger there. But I don't know if there is a way to stop these attacks altogether just as there is no way to stop crime from being committed. I think all that's realistic is minimization of such, unfortunately, and I hate that concept as much as anyone else. There will always be evil people in the world, sadly. I would like to be wrong and see evil eliminated as a whole but even if we look back in history we can clearly see that evil has always been around, it just seems to take different forms as time goes on. It sucks. I definitely do hope more successful approaches for preventing these horrific acts are found.
I get what you're saying about how it feels like these attacks are being normalized so to speak and I understand your anger there. But I don't know if there is a way to stop these attacks altogether just as there is no way to stop crime from being committed. I think all that's realistic is minimization of such, unfortunately, and I hate that concept as much as anyone else. There will always be evil people in the world, sadly. I would like to be wrong and see evil eliminated as a whole but even if we look back in history we can clearly see that evil has always been around, it just seems to take different forms as time goes on. It sucks. I definitely do hope more successful approaches for preventing these horrific acts are found.
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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 6:54pm
the world needs an awakening. Humanity is doing a slow death march to its own demise and like the Germans during World War II most of us are turning a blind eye and letting the evil take over. Celebrity is a cult of evil spoiled people who have enough wealth to do anything they want and we act as enablers by omission. Case in Point: Roman Polanski drugged and raped a minor - he was never punished and fled American justice. After this event he won an Oscar for one of his movies - he obviously couldn't be at the ceremony but when it was announced he was given a standing ovation by the Holywood elites - they were cheering and clapping a child rapist, making speeches about what a fine man he was - Whoopi Goldberg a Polanski apologist said"but it wasn't rape, rape." this girl was a child FFS Ariana is cut from the same cloth and a member of this cult, youtube has plenty of footage of her rudeness, rage and a lack of caring and respect for her fans. The only trauma she experienced was the thought 'thank fuck it wasn't me.' such is true human nature. As for normalising attacks and gangrapes etc, our politicians here are telling us that it is now part of city life and we should just get used to it (See Sadik Kahn the mayor of London thoughts on the matter, in context. With a stronger will we can stop this maybe not all together but most of these attacks could be thwarted with much more resources being put into fighting and killing Isis and their associates. I respect your right to your opinion and I hope we are not going to fall out over this - I certainly would not want to do that - a lot of the material in this and other poems are my triggers and that is unlikely to change :-)
Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
Well from my side of things we wouldn't fall out over this, you haven't said anything that's offended me and I certainly hope I haven't offended you, that was never my intention, I was simply expressing my opinion. I'm always up for good discussion and debate, there has been no personal attacks here so from my end everything's all good.
I do recall the Roman Polanski incident how he fled to another country (that action alone screams guilty) and I agree that making excuses for famous people is part of the problem. Fans talk about how good art should supersede anything done in their personal life no matter how awful. Totally messed up. As far as Ariana, I certainly wasn't speaking to her character, I don't know enough about her for that, and I remember the donut licking incident which I felt negatively about. I was only saying that in the case of what she did for the benefit concert and victims that she deserved credit is all. I don't have any reason to believe that she didn't experience trauma so that's why I can't quite agree with you there because if I empathize and put myself in her position as a human being I think I would have.
As I said before, I just don't like the idea of painting all celebs with the same brush because I know there are good people out there and hey, people like you and I could easily become famous. Who knows why or for what, but the point is we're human and you never know. It could change us but wouldn't you like to think that it could not and we'd have the willpower to stand our ground and remain who we are? I would.
I do understand the notion of disallowing terror to disrupt life which is what I thought Sadik Kahn was saying. Living in fear is not healthy. I also don't think a police state is going to help anybody even though that is what much of the world is gravitating towards. So I can agree with it from that angle in terms of not letting terror win. If our basic human rights are taken from us then yes they do win. What I do agree with is that more could be done to thwart these attacks.
I still plan to continue reading your poetry and leaving honest comments if that's okay. I respect your opinion too and also would not want to fall out over something like this.
I do recall the Roman Polanski incident how he fled to another country (that action alone screams guilty) and I agree that making excuses for famous people is part of the problem. Fans talk about how good art should supersede anything done in their personal life no matter how awful. Totally messed up. As far as Ariana, I certainly wasn't speaking to her character, I don't know enough about her for that, and I remember the donut licking incident which I felt negatively about. I was only saying that in the case of what she did for the benefit concert and victims that she deserved credit is all. I don't have any reason to believe that she didn't experience trauma so that's why I can't quite agree with you there because if I empathize and put myself in her position as a human being I think I would have.
As I said before, I just don't like the idea of painting all celebs with the same brush because I know there are good people out there and hey, people like you and I could easily become famous. Who knows why or for what, but the point is we're human and you never know. It could change us but wouldn't you like to think that it could not and we'd have the willpower to stand our ground and remain who we are? I would.
I do understand the notion of disallowing terror to disrupt life which is what I thought Sadik Kahn was saying. Living in fear is not healthy. I also don't think a police state is going to help anybody even though that is what much of the world is gravitating towards. So I can agree with it from that angle in terms of not letting terror win. If our basic human rights are taken from us then yes they do win. What I do agree with is that more could be done to thwart these attacks.
I still plan to continue reading your poetry and leaving honest comments if that's okay. I respect your opinion too and also would not want to fall out over something like this.
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Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
I hate that British people die
just as Syrians, Iraqis and
Afghanistanies
I dunno why ..
just as Syrians, Iraqis and
Afghanistanies
I dunno why ..
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Re: Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
17th Sep 2017 3:04am
maybe because you care? As for me maybe I care a bit less - I want to see all radical Jihadis killed - I would include in that the British ones who fought for ISIS in Syria and elsewhere. Now I am not fit for army service but if they capture them bring them to me I would kill them without a second thought or an ounce of guilt - maybe that makes me a bad person thanks for the read and comments :-)
Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
Anonymous
18th Sep 2017 4:00pm
One of the things I love about you is that you're not afraid to tackle a topic. No matter how controversial or borderline risque it may be. You get in there and invest your passion and your mind and bring us pieces like this. Filled with emotion and information. Those two don't always run together in tandem. Emotion often pushes facts to the back. You keep writing and making us think! Oodles of hugs for you, my friend! :)

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Re. Time Has Past (Post-Manchester Rant)
18th Sep 2017 5:34pm
Many people I know and some in here just think I am a grumpy old bastard - But I genuinely fear the coming storm - I moved to one of the Scottish islands and thought they would be immune and safer. One of the guys from the most recent London attack was photographed with 4 or 5 friends taking photos of the boat and things like emergency exits - These people and going to bring it to everywhere, even here. I have a Syrian couple living next door to me, they're a nice couple, they don't talk much but they seem harmless enough - but who knows - this is the way terrorism works - make the populous fearful - having watched what is happening in mainland Europe we should be afraid :-(
Anhoo thanks for reading it and getting where I am coming from :-) Huge HUGS! :-)
Anhoo thanks for reading it and getting where I am coming from :-) Huge HUGS! :-)