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Trust
You asked me if I trust you
Demanded it of anyone you love
How can I trust you when I can't trust myself?
I've been betrayed by my closest family and friends
Who I have known as long as anyone I know
But even I have changed my mind on beliefs
I believed in so absolutely in my youth
Yet now I know I'd never do or allow you to
I know that you will change, that you will grow
And in that growth, you will grow apart from me
So no, I do not trust you, I expect you to betray me
Even if you love me beyond the day I die
You will do what you must for your beliefs to survive
I trust you to do what's best for you even if it hurts me
So in that way, yes, in each moment I trust you to be you
Demanded it of anyone you love
How can I trust you when I can't trust myself?
I've been betrayed by my closest family and friends
Who I have known as long as anyone I know
But even I have changed my mind on beliefs
I believed in so absolutely in my youth
Yet now I know I'd never do or allow you to
I know that you will change, that you will grow
And in that growth, you will grow apart from me
So no, I do not trust you, I expect you to betray me
Even if you love me beyond the day I die
You will do what you must for your beliefs to survive
I trust you to do what's best for you even if it hurts me
So in that way, yes, in each moment I trust you to be you
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Re. Trust
29th Feb 2016 7:25pm
Without trust there can be no love...no fire without oxygen
until you can stop tarring all with the same brush, then you'll never be happy
All love dies in the end, people grow apart or grow together...there's no guarantees, but with your trust issues...it's a non starter...an that's on you
A very thought provoking write, has a simplicity to it I really adore and yet it's a complex issue...very nicely done :)
until you can stop tarring all with the same brush, then you'll never be happy
All love dies in the end, people grow apart or grow together...there's no guarantees, but with your trust issues...it's a non starter...an that's on you
A very thought provoking write, has a simplicity to it I really adore and yet it's a complex issue...very nicely done :)
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Re: Re. Trust
29th Feb 2016 9:49pm
This is an introspective, self poem exploring my own trust issues. When I was younger I foolishly trusted people who betrayed me for their own self interests. After it happened with enough of the people I had trusted, I began to wonder if there was anyone I could trust. People change their minds and I am no different. It is a simple concept, if I can change my mind and stand against things I once firmly believed in, then it is conceivable that someone who pledges to love and trust me could change their mind. Instead of putting "our" best interests first, she could decide that her best interests are no longer the same as "ours". I have debated this internally for quite a long time so I decided to put it out there and find out what others think. It seems to have stirred some feelings up in a hurry...
Thanks for commenting...
JJ
Thanks for commenting...
JJ
Re. Trust
29th Feb 2016 7:33pm
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29th Feb 2016 9:50pm
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29th Feb 2016 7:44pm
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29th Feb 2016 9:52pm
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29th Feb 2016 7:58pm
The flow of this poem was very smooth and it tells a story that lives in the hearts of many people that has been hurt and refuse to trust another again for the fear of being hurt. Great job
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29th Feb 2016 9:54pm
Re. Trust
29th Feb 2016 11:10pm
I am so with you there Poetryman. Trust is always betrayed by the people around us be it secrets or their support when we need them. We trust that they will always be there for us but most of the time they wouldn't be...we trust that they would love us as we love them but they wouldn't. I have trusted and have been betrayed much...loved hard and left harder:) but in the end I can only blame myself for being too trusting and allowing hope to spring eternal in my heart. I love this poem poetryman.
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Re: Re. Trust
29th Feb 2016 11:22pm
Thank you Grace! Those of us who have experienced betrayal by those we loved the most understand how hard it is to give it again... if only wisdom was transferable, it would be more valuable than gold!
JJ
JJ
Re. Trust
1st Mar 2016 10:02pm
WOW! - yeah that one gets a 'WQW!' - so raw, so true, been there so often, so often than I am numb and expectant :-)
brilliant piece :-)
brilliant piece :-)
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Re: Re. Trust
2nd Mar 2016 00:15am
WOW! Yup, you get a WOW back at ya for an awesome comment! Thank you David!
JJ
JJ
Re. Trust
3rd Mar 2016 6:31am
Ahhh, Poetryman, luv ~ :-*
I just lost quite a lengthy comment I was making to you regarding this extraordinarily thought-provoking piece. I have been relegated to my Kindle, an unsatisfactory medium for me, for comments while my BlackBerry is out of commission.
When I have it back, I shall come back and write again, luv, for twas far too infuriating to write so extensively to you only to lose it all... ;-p What you have written has caused much contemplation; thank you for that. :-*
I just lost quite a lengthy comment I was making to you regarding this extraordinarily thought-provoking piece. I have been relegated to my Kindle, an unsatisfactory medium for me, for comments while my BlackBerry is out of commission.
When I have it back, I shall come back and write again, luv, for twas far too infuriating to write so extensively to you only to lose it all... ;-p What you have written has caused much contemplation; thank you for that. :-*
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Re: Re. Trust
3rd Mar 2016 6:50am
That is understandable Savaja, it has happened to me many times too. I know exactly how it feels... looking forward to reading you thoughts!
JJ
JJ
Re: Re. Trust
13th Mar 2016 9:11am
Hello again, luv ~
Though I am still sans phone, I have ventured onto my laptop to finally complete my comment on your poem for these are important issues you raise in my estimation.
Mayhap, I am a fool. Here is where I will begin for tis a crucial point to make. Mayhap, I am such and naive as well. I concede these things. However, in my experience, and that experience as you may recall is littered with betrayal from those who should have been most trustworthy, tis invariably worth it to love and, yes, trust, again and again.
Now, I do not advocate blind trust nor trust, necessarily, where it has been betrayed before, though certainly each of us can seek and be deserving of redemption, but that is a discussion, mayhap, for another day, ne c'est pas, luv? :-*
However, I see merit, great merit indeed, in stepping out of one's comfort into the fray once again, trusting, even should betrayal occur, for there is somewhat about continuing to try that keeps us growing, keeps us from stagnating, keeps us vibrant, keeps us human, and that can give us compassion towards one another, even if (especially if?) betrayal occurs for the act of being betrayed (not that I am recommending this, you understand) keeps us humble and affords us the opportunity to view things from a different perspective if we can manage to relinquish our hurt and our pride and our humiliation for betimes betrayal embitters us because we do not like to be duped, to seem less savvy than another or have someone "get over" on us. And, of course we don't enjoy these things (well, for the most part ~ again, a topic for another day and place... ;-p). Tis a hard and bitter thing to absorb.
Yet, none of us are impervious to this and the humiliation of betrayal should properly rest upon the betrayer, though tisn't what we too oft do with it.
Now, here is a further thought and this focuses on love for you state, essentially, that self-interest rules and you trust that to take precedence and I must demur here, luv. When love is involved, the paradigm shifts. I have seen self-interest discarded more than once for love: love of child, love of friend, love of lover... :-* Tis a catalyst for self-abnegating behavior frequently, which rather shifts self-interest sideways and shoves it aside, violently... ;-p
Hmmm...I am having a feeling here that I've left somewhat out, which I meant to say, luv. Alas, I cannot force my brain into submission so it shall go without remembrance and saying.
Humans and trust and love ~ such an intricate conundrum, luv; these are convoluted philosophical musings, convoluted of course because we humans are involved and we are ever a convoluted group of complexities, ne c'est pas? :-*
Though I am still sans phone, I have ventured onto my laptop to finally complete my comment on your poem for these are important issues you raise in my estimation.
Mayhap, I am a fool. Here is where I will begin for tis a crucial point to make. Mayhap, I am such and naive as well. I concede these things. However, in my experience, and that experience as you may recall is littered with betrayal from those who should have been most trustworthy, tis invariably worth it to love and, yes, trust, again and again.
Now, I do not advocate blind trust nor trust, necessarily, where it has been betrayed before, though certainly each of us can seek and be deserving of redemption, but that is a discussion, mayhap, for another day, ne c'est pas, luv? :-*
However, I see merit, great merit indeed, in stepping out of one's comfort into the fray once again, trusting, even should betrayal occur, for there is somewhat about continuing to try that keeps us growing, keeps us from stagnating, keeps us vibrant, keeps us human, and that can give us compassion towards one another, even if (especially if?) betrayal occurs for the act of being betrayed (not that I am recommending this, you understand) keeps us humble and affords us the opportunity to view things from a different perspective if we can manage to relinquish our hurt and our pride and our humiliation for betimes betrayal embitters us because we do not like to be duped, to seem less savvy than another or have someone "get over" on us. And, of course we don't enjoy these things (well, for the most part ~ again, a topic for another day and place... ;-p). Tis a hard and bitter thing to absorb.
Yet, none of us are impervious to this and the humiliation of betrayal should properly rest upon the betrayer, though tisn't what we too oft do with it.
Now, here is a further thought and this focuses on love for you state, essentially, that self-interest rules and you trust that to take precedence and I must demur here, luv. When love is involved, the paradigm shifts. I have seen self-interest discarded more than once for love: love of child, love of friend, love of lover... :-* Tis a catalyst for self-abnegating behavior frequently, which rather shifts self-interest sideways and shoves it aside, violently... ;-p
Hmmm...I am having a feeling here that I've left somewhat out, which I meant to say, luv. Alas, I cannot force my brain into submission so it shall go without remembrance and saying.
Humans and trust and love ~ such an intricate conundrum, luv; these are convoluted philosophical musings, convoluted of course because we humans are involved and we are ever a convoluted group of complexities, ne c'est pas? :-*
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Re: Re. Trust
13th Mar 2016 8:56pm
I don't know what "ne c'est pas?" means, but the rest of that I got, lol. I may need a few days to fully recover and respond to all that... thank you for so thoroughly expressing yourself Savaja!
What you say is true. I wrote this in a very cynical mood with some sarcasm towards a person who has proven untrustworthy, so it is a very specific charge not meant to be viewed as a societal condemnation but of what people are capable of when selfishness controls them. If I believed everyone was this self-centered and treasonous, I might go live under a rock and eat worms till I die...
JJ
What you say is true. I wrote this in a very cynical mood with some sarcasm towards a person who has proven untrustworthy, so it is a very specific charge not meant to be viewed as a societal condemnation but of what people are capable of when selfishness controls them. If I believed everyone was this self-centered and treasonous, I might go live under a rock and eat worms till I die...
JJ
Re. Trust
4th Mar 2016 4:21pm
This felt personal and hit home by the honesty that is always hard to accept especially when heard before..curtsy bow for this hard hit reality check..
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Re: Re. Trust
Thank you for the comment and RL add feenix, and your curtsy bows are becoming infectious...!
JJ
JJ
Re: Re. Trust
5th Mar 2016 8:25pm
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Anonymous
5th Mar 2016 2:18am
Wow JJ.....this sinks my heart.....no trust hurts thru the soul.....I know this so well......it can torture a relationship......feeling this......purple luv & hugs xo :)
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Re: Re. Trust
5th Mar 2016 2:35am
Thanks for commenting with purple luv and hugs G! Makes me feel all warmy inside...
JJ [[hugs]] you back
JJ [[hugs]] you back
Re. Trust
11th Mar 2016 12:40pm
You sent rifting throughout
my whole being. Cannot
say enough about this one.
Love it.. centre' stood
-Howlings
my whole being. Cannot
say enough about this one.
Love it.. centre' stood
-Howlings
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Re: Re. Trust
11th Mar 2016 2:04pm