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Blackwolf
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Fine if someone disagrees...

I have friends who agree with me...

It is where I draw the line...

Those who want to not wear a mask , should not
interact with others , should not endanger others ,
and should not force others to put up with their ,
as I view it , stupidity...that is my opinion I stand by...

( I shall add , at the beginning of this epidemic , I was
living in the desert , with houses set back from the road ,
and long distances with no one on the road for miles...

When I went to the stores in town , I most definitely
wore a mask , when it was suggested , and now I am
in a country town , on the coast , and I do walk down
an *empty* street , without a mask...I believe *that* is
fine , for all of us , yet as soon is there *any* chance of
human personal interaction , mask comes out , and I
expect the same...a gentleman was kicked out of a store
I was in recently for no mask , and I was one who cheered
the move to do so...

However , I do support those who , in their own homes ,
or vehicles choose not to wear masks , as well if their yards
are far enough apart regarding safety...

Otherwise , I fully support mask wearing , and believe people
fully threatening myself and others by not wearing masks...

And *that* , in my eyes , I perceive as deadly as them pointing
a gun , and playing russian roulette with me...and I will not
respond positively , at all )...

P.S. I *never* suggested someone *kill* , or even harm their
children...I just feel if they are not going to protect themselves ,
others , and by doing so opt to be more susceptible to the virus
as I view it , they should not have children , as I see their behaviour
as medically irresponsible , and threatening their own children...

And if so , then I feel , as is my right , they should not *have* children...

Because those children deserve to be protected , even from their
own parents , who do not care that much about them to protect
them , in my opinion , and as far as I am concerned...

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Yes Sky, I see and alot of Nazi intimidation here and media and the submissive public towards a new order of statist control. The plandemic being used as a means to shut down the society and set up new parameters is infuriating to watch and see people willing like sheep give up their freedoms and civil liberties for a sickness that has hit the world over and over WITHOUT draconian measures being installed. Since I study history and have a memory I know the LACK of pushed shutdown commie control for H1N1 in 2009, H3N2 in 1968 etc, etc. Hundreds of thousands people died in the U.S. from those viruses while not a peep from the Marxists media except to praise Obama for his response that allowed several thousand to die before anything was done. But he was a black democrat and currently we have a straight white male president in office that is not a Jim Crow slave party donkey and so we must RESIST!!!!!!! "Es ist zu lhrer Sicherhiet" -It is for your safety- That is what the Nazis said all during the '30s as they systematically took away people's civil liberties. And now we have trained minions doing the same work today. Claiming "bad" citizens are not following rules and thus are defective and should not breed. Just like the Bolsheviks, Maoist, and Nazi trained their mental slaves to do...Attack and tear down the society for a BETTER brave new world. Such sheep talking smack can fuck right off. But remember in your travels, the corona virus does NOT spread from 50,000 protesters rioting, murdering and looting. It only spreads in churches, small business and Trump rallies. You know...where all the racist, diseased people go...

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runaway-mindtrain said:Yes Sky, I see and alot of Nazi intimidation here and media and the submissive public towards a new order of statist control. The plandemic being used as a means to shut down the society and set up new parameters is infuriating to watch and see people willing like sheep give up their freedoms and civil liberties for a sickness that has hit the world over and over WITHOUT draconian measures being installed. Since I study history and have a memory I know the LACK of pushed shutdown commie control for H1N1 in 2009, H3N2 in 1968 etc, etc. Hundreds of thousands people died in the U.S. from those viruses while not a peep from the Marxists media except to praise Obama for his response that allowed several thousand to die before anything was done. But he was a black democrat and currently we have a straight white male president in office that is not a Jim Crow slave party donkey and so we must RESIST!!!!!!! "Es ist zu lhrer Sicherhiet" -It is for your safety- That is what the Nazis said all during the '30s as they systematically took away people's civil liberties. And now we have trained minions doing the same work today. Claiming "bad" citizens are not following rules and thus are defective and should not breed. Just like the Bolsheviks, Maoist, and Nazi trained their mental slaves to do...Attack and tear down the society for a BETTER brave new world. Such sheep talking smack can fuck right off. But remember in your travels, the corona virus does NOT spread from 50,000 protesters rioting, murdering and looting. It only spreads in churches, small business and Trump rallies. You know...where all the racist, diseased people go...

lepperochan said:
it's hate speech. needs attention  


It sure sounds like it to me, but we've put up with plenty of repetitious Democrat bashing drivel in these Covid threads and the Freedom of Speech threads and survived this long.


Blackwolf
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"And now we have trained minions doing the same work today."

Some might be trained minions and "nazis"...

I am an intelligent human being , as well most of this country ,
wanting protection for ourselves , *and* others...

We *all* deserve to stay healthy and well , and *should* take
the best efforts to make sure this occurs , or we would be foolish
to not do so...

And you can spout your party rhetoric all you want , my friend...

I admire your stance , and poetry , but do not agree , nor fit in
your espoused paradigm...

Best to you !

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If that's the way you feel  Bw,  that's the way you feel.  what annoys me about this kind of thing is when folk cause someone offence and stick by their guns,  but when offended cry like a baby. so make up your mind is all

Blackwolf
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Untrue , Lepp...

Choose your accusations very carefully now...

I see what you try , and it is not correct ;

Not your behavior , nor accusations...

Are we on the same page ?

Valeriyabeyond
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BlackWolf
I don't feel your stance on the masks is the issue here
The issue is, your comment on suicides and death.
People do not view death as you do.
Life is precious to them and death is tragic.

I have worked suicide hotlines until I could no longer live comfortably with
the stress.
My last client was a young man who I had been talking with for months
His last three days, I was on the phone with him almost continuously.
During the three days, we didn't talk about why he should live,  we talked about future lives,  past lives,  how to make this life count.
The benefits of letting go,
When we said goodbye, we were not crying like we had previously done many times.
I have not heard anything of him in 6 months
I feel he's doing well

Genetically speaking I was lucky,  mental Illness is rampant on my husband's side
Ater having three healthy boys all grown and doing well my eldest son announces he is not having biological children due to the chance they may be confronted with mental Illness.
He chose responsibly but it was painful for my husband
I completely understand where he was coming from even if it is not sound medically or genetically I understand

My son then took a leap and adopted a disabled child from South Korea
That shows it wasn't the fact he didn't want the burden he didn't want to add to the problem

Death to some is very hard to accept as a part of life and it's hard to hear of someone who views death as you do with such carefree words

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EdibleWords said:What about herd immunity? Sweden has a COVID curve as low now as everyone else. And less damaged youth.

Blackwolf
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I understand , Valeriya...

People do not understand me...

They are hearing I do not respect life...

That is due not them not interpreting my words properly ,
and I have been clear...I *value* life , mine and others...

However , when others refuse to wear masks , they are
consciously stating they value their freedom to do so ,
more than protecting others , including me , from the
disease , Covid , or anything that may show up in future...

And that to me , starts division , protest , and conflict ,
and I do not believe that is healthy for the human*tribe*,
so I believe in them removing themselves...

I shall not do it , yet it is my right to believe it , and state it...

..................................................................................................

"Life is precious to them and death is tragic."

I completely agree , that is why they need to wear their masks !

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JohnnyBlaze said:https://www.instagram.com/p/CCgmA-HHDqr/?igshid=itrwpdh8pwiw

A beautiful piece of contemporary art...

Well posted , Johnny , thanks !

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She is on the petite side and yes she's very boney and comes across a bit overpowerworing but I'm glad you were able to see past that exterior impression.  I believe she works in the profession of social work in some executive level but what drew me in was her frugal nonsense of every day woman's lifestyle.

I guess like many I was overwhelemed with so much hypocrisy and exaggeration by media of what was going on that when she put this video it was so refreshing to hear how an ordinary couple dealt with it even though they were taking every precaution and like most, they wanted to experience the simple things of going out to eat.
About a year ago I did order Monolaurin which is driven from cocounut fat and I still have some.  It does do wonders onset of flue of cold.  I do take it once a week but daily when i travel or i feel that tickle in the back of the throat which is indication of a cold and thankfully i've been cold/flu free for more than 2 yrs.  The rest of her recommendation...i haven't ordered but I will since we're in this covid mess to have it on hand just in case.
In my city,  There is no zinc in site but luckily i was able to pick two bottles up when i was in midwest few weeks ago.  i take a pill every other day with meals and again, i've never felt as healthy..but i think mostly because i've turned off social media pertaining to politics and covid

I got into a couple of discussions couple weeks ago which cemented my decision to shut off anything that had to do with Covid or politics.
One was with my Team lead..we were talking about how our hours have been so unreliable at work (9 hour/per week for 3 weeks straight wtf!) and she coyly said, "well, that's why everyone needs to be tested"
I just looked at her in confusion and replied, 'and how how does that prove anything, what will it mean? we will all test positive since we've been working with the public since day one and the amount of crap we're exposed to is beyond any covid,..we all have seen the cockroaches in the stockrooms and the dust and filth we're exposed to everyday."
She responded by, "yes, that's true."

But that conversation left me thinking how the divsion in compartmenting people is more present than ever before.
They might as well slap them with the Letter C and throw them in the dungeon.


Then Last week, i called up my best friend of which i've known all my life.  She's been homebound for 2 yrs after a disasterous knee surgery, she's been in wheelchair and now terrified to have anyone visit her because of Covid. I will call her "B"
And I will title this conversation "The Hamster Wheel"

Me, "B, how are you doing"

B " I'm ok, but I'm just so sick and tired of being alone.  I'm so scared to even go out by my door to get fresh air cause the neighbors come right by me and start chatting, and they don't understand social distancing and I hate that, they just don't understand, they don't take any of this seriously, they think its a hoax and I'm so tired of hiding in my apartment, when will this end.  If only people have stayed quarantined we would've ended this but this damn president thinks this is all a joke and he wants to open up businesses and people are dying"

"But B, we've tried the quarantine and we all have masks on in any social setting and obviously its not working and I work in the essential business i see what's going on..so i say everyone should go back to work with so much time on their hands and all this free $$ of 400 dollar extra on top of their unemployment checks they're all out there spending.  Its absolutely ludicrous so they need to go back to work there will be less people on the streets, stores, loitering, they're all spending money on borrowed time, its crazy!"

"WHAT? so now you're a trump supporter??? this is exactly what he wants to do, so now you've turned conservative, OMG!!  more people will die if they go back to work, this is exactly what trump wants."

"just becaue what is not working and I say what I see as logical makes me a trump supporter?! wtf B I"m out there every day I know what's working and what's not working while you're at home and all you do is watch TV, one sided propaganda, hyped with fear"

"That's why people need to get tested so we know who has it and who doesn't"
"So, what do you want to happen to the ones test positive?"
"They need to stay home, quarantined cause they will infect others,imagine if I get infected, I will die with my immune system so vulnerable"
"Ok so if they make a vaccine, will you take it?"
'No,not right away. I will wait to see how others will respond and then I will decide'
"So in the meantime you want to the world to stop and everyone to stay home and wait...?"
'Yes, till the officials figure this out no one should be out.
"B, it doesn't work that way, bills need to be paid, families are suffering of domestic abuse being home together, children aren't learning anything at home, and the rest are flooding at any public place they can escape.  It's a disaster ticking bomb"
"But the virus will kill them mingling out there, so if they choose to go out then they should die!"
"Ok B, I love you and I will call you next week.  Call me if you need anything"

I know she won't cause i'm an essential worker and already she's stated because of my work i could be a carrier of the virus and she won't let me near her door feeling utterly paranoid.
I have a feeling, It will be a long long time before I see her again cause she's paralyzed by fear.
And I don't blame her, she's been in vulnerable health state for sometime but it saddens me that the only thing she has is the TV as news source and as salvation.

There is a quote which I had heard before but I don't think it made as big an impact as it does now:

"Insanity is doing something over and over again while expecting different result" by Einstein

And the world is going insane by closing, quarantining again and again, mendating masks everywhere..while expecting different results.

One other thing I would like to insert here which I'm sure its not completely new news to any of us anymore but it sort of hit me with a new light recently after seeing it go around in social medias even though the original vid and article dated of April of this year as I'm sure not much has changed by mid july.
The way all deaths are classified as covid deaths thus the numbers have been mind boggling..leaving most wondering where are the regluar deaths in midst all of this.

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

But today NY announced they had no deaths of corona for the first time in months lol, i replied to their tweet that perhaps by chance they stopped labling deaths as covid..hopefully the health officials will start doing the death recording in truthful way for once!!

I think in time poeple will wake up from all this bombardment to see what is logical and what is not, what is sensible and what is down right a fallacy but more so a manipulation of either contrived of politics or notoriety.
Sadly we're all the hamster on the wheel and they're all watching us like some lab experiement.  

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Layla said:She is on the petite side and yes she's very boney and comes across a bit overpowerworing but I'm glad you were able to see past that exterior impression.  I believe she works in the profession of social work in some executive level but what drew me in was her frugal nonsense of every day woman's lifestyle.

I was very surprised that her makeup recommendations didn't seem to be organic, tbh. But then I double-checked Wet & Wild, etc. and saw they had become a clean product ( they weren't when they first came out - on the contrary, they seemed a rather cheap dollar store brand ( not knocking dollar stores - I find killer products in them ) ). That is what initially make me think that you had posted the wrong video.  I learned a few things.

I guess like many I was overwhelemed with so much hypocrisy and exaggeration by media of what was going on that when she put this video it was so refreshing to hear how an ordinary couple dealt with it even though they were taking every precaution and like most, they wanted to experience the simple things of going out to eat.
About a year ago I did order Monolaurin which is driven from cocounut fat and I still have some.  It does do wonders onset of flue of cold.  I do take it once a week but daily when i travel or i feel that tickle in the back of the throat which is indication of a cold and thankfully i've been cold/flu free for more than 2 yrs.  The rest of her recommendation...i haven't ordered but I will since we're in this covid mess to have it on hand just in case.


I'm right with you on the ordering colustrum this week. It's really the only thing I don't have. Maybe that's why I've been able to stay healthy. Well, that and 98% self-containment.

In my city,  There is no zinc in site but luckily i was able to pick two bottles up when i was in midwest few weeks ago.  i take a pill every other day with meals and again, i've never felt as healthy..but i think mostly because i've turned off social media pertaining to politics and covid

I thought I had recommended Quantum Health Zinc a few weeks back. It's an excellent, clean company. I've ordered their lozenges before, but am currently using their spray daily.

https://quantumhealth.com/

I got into a couple of discussions couple weeks ago which cemented my decision to shut off anything that had to do with Covid or politics.
One was with my Team lead..we were talking about how our hours have been so unreliable at work (9 hour/per week for 3 weeks straight wtf!) and she coyly said, "well, that's why everyone needs to be tested"
I just looked at her in confusion and replied, 'and how how does that prove anything, what will it mean? we will all test positive since we've been working with the public since day one and the amount of crap we're exposed to is beyond any covid,..we all have seen the cockroaches in the stockrooms and the dust and filth we're exposed to everyday."
She responded by, "yes, that's true."


Well, not only that, but you could test negative one day; and contract it the next. The good thing about testing, however, that is you don't have to worry about those you've been around, or telling them you tested positive.

But that conversation left me thinking how the divsion in compartmenting people is more present than ever before. They might as well slap them with the Letter C and throw them in the dungeon.

There is so much contradiction between people with doctorate and/or scientific degrees that it's difficult for the lay person to make sense of anything. I haven't felt led to completely back away; however, my time has been cut by 50% here and practically 80% elsewhere except for work. I feel more led to meditate and send positive light and healing than argue the political dynamics of both Covid-19 and/or the election ( not to mention between members of sites ).

Then Last week, i called up my best friend of which i've known all my life.  She's been homebound for 2 yrs after a disasterous knee surgery, she's been in wheelchair and now terrified to have anyone visit her because of Covid. I will call her "B"
And I will title this conversation "The Hamster Wheel" [ lolol ]

Me, "B, how are you doing"

B " I'm ok, but I'm just so sick and tired of being alone.  I'm so scared to even go out by my door to get fresh air cause the neighbors come right by me and start chatting, and they don't understand social distancing and I hate that, they just don't understand, they don't take any of this seriously, they think its a hoax and I'm so tired of hiding in my apartment, when will this end.  If only people have stayed quarantined we would've ended this but this damn president thinks this is all a joke and he wants to open up businesses and people are dying"

"But B, we've tried the quarantine and we all have masks on in any social setting and obviously its not working and I work in the essential business i see what's going on..so i say everyone should go back to work with so much time on their hands and all this free $$ of 400 dollar extra on top of their unemployment checks they're all out there spending.  Its absolutely ludicrous so they need to go back to work there will be less people on the streets, stores, loitering, they're all spending money on borrowed time, its crazy!"

"WHAT? so now you're a trump supporter??? this is exactly what he wants to do, so now you've turned conservative, OMG!!  more people will die if they go back to work, this is exactly what trump wants."

"just becaue what is not working and I say what I see as logical makes me a trump supporter?! wtf B I"m out there every day I know what's working and what's not working while you're at home and all you do is watch TV, one sided propaganda, hyped with fear"

"That's why people need to get tested so we know who has it and who doesn't"
"So, what do you want to happen to the ones test positive?"
"They need to stay home, quarantined cause they will infect others,imagine if I get infected, I will die with my immune system so vulnerable"
"Ok so if they make a vaccine, will you take it?"
'No,not right away. I will wait to see how others will respond and then I will decide'
"So in the meantime you want to the world to stop and everyone to stay home and wait...?"
'Yes, till the officials figure this out no one should be out.
"B, it doesn't work that way, bills need to be paid, families are suffering of domestic abuse being home together, children aren't learning anything at home, and the rest are flooding at any public place they can escape.  It's a disaster ticking bomb"
"But the virus will kill them mingling out there, so if they choose to go out then they should die!"
"Ok B, I love you and I will call you next week.  Call me if you need anything"


I am sorry I laughed, but couldn't help it! You can tell that the loneliness has really gotten to her. Or it seems to me that she's been in her head too long and speaking out of fear. Unfortunately, those who are confined spend exorbitant amounts of time online or watching the news - one side of the news ( for purposes of relation we'll say CNN or Fox ).  Those who are unable to weigh both sides ( much like the initial debates in these threads ) are doomed to closed-mindedness. There is truth in both sides, you just have to fish it out—this means a willingness to open your mind to what the other side is actually saying.  90% cannot do that.

That is the scary part ( to me ).

Part II is in my next response, as it was too long.

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