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Coronavirus ( Covid-19) Part II

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runaway-mindtrain said:Why don't both of you quit fussing over numbers and just put on your commie face mask like the globalist health dictatorship demands... 2019 , 2017, or 1917's numbers can be inserted into this argument. Why bother trying to convince yourself or others that there are VIRUSES a foot? It doesn't matter. Whatever the numbers or the excuse...Sheep will do as they are told. The wankers over at the WHO have already stated, "this will not go away, we will never go back to normal" Medical tyranny was used by the Bolsheviki, Maoist and ESPECIALLY the Nazis to control their populations. We have arrived in the New Order. You will always have a mask, and soon, to buy or sell will require verification of the APPROVED medicine and RNA chip inserted Vaccine. .....Go back to sleep. You are on your knees begging to be controlled in every aspect of your life, while bitching on how much we must submit. If there was only one death plus a year of propaganda it would be enough for most people to bend over for the doctorial assfuck. The numbers do not matter. Good thing though, heart and lung disease numbers, that are usually high, are WAY down this year. Apparently, the Kung flu cures those afflictions. While you are looking for numbers to support your medical tyranny. Try looking at those diseases in comparison to last year or the year before that...However, it doesn't matter what you find because most of the world is now under control. You will submit too. Your future is slavery, no matter what. Write your poems and accept your bondage. You begged for it, regardless....

Still the same broken record about the Sky falling.


Ahavati said:

You are, undoubtedly, one of the most disrespectful individuals I have ever met in my life. Do you know how many people have died from covid? I've had family members AND friends with covid, and it almost killed them. I have friends who have lost friends and family members to covid.

The only person I see in this thread implying we all stick our heads in the sand is YOU, by denying this virus doesn't exist. I truly pray you lose no one to its effects, because hoping for the opposite would make me too much like you.

And I'd rather die first.

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JohnnyBlaze said:Still the same broken record about the Sky falling.

I am grateful for the contrast he provides. Without contrast we wouldn't realize what it is we do not wish in our lives, be it actions, words, or deeds.  However, when it comes to death tolls, and people suffering from both illness and loss ( be it loved one, friend, job, finances and so forth ), sensitivity is warranted. It DOES matter. So perhaps that's his lesson in this. Only he knows.

The more I have meditated about this entire situation, the more I am beginning to discern it's man against nature. It's that simple, yet I can't explain it beyond that; I could try, but for now words wouldn't be adequate.

Those who know, know. Those who don't, don't. Regardless, and this applies across the board in many things: Three things cannot stay hidden long: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

It will all come to a head the way the Spanish flu epidemic did. It will pass too. Will the world be the same? I hope not. I hope it's drastically changed for the better.

And life, as it always has, will continue because that's what life does. Energy survives despite form.

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Ahavati said:

I am grateful for the contrast he provides. Without contrast we wouldn't realize what it is we do not wish in our lives, be it actions, words, or deeds.  However, when it comes to death tolls, and people suffering from both illness and loss ( be it loved one, friend, job, finances and so forth ), sensitivity is warranted. It DOES matter. So perhaps that's his lesson in this. Only he knows.

The more I have meditated about this entire situation, the more I am beginning to discern it's man against nature. It's that simple, yet I can't explain it beyond that; I could try, but for now words wouldn't be adequate.

Those who know, know. Those who don't, don't. Regardless, and this applies across the board in many things: Three things cannot stay hidden long: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

It will all come to a head the way the Spanish flu epidemic did. It will pass too. Will the world be the same? I hope not. I hope it's drastically changed for the better.

And life, as it always has, will continue because that's what life does. Energy survives despite form.


Take your bows Ahavati!!
For such an enlghtening selfless response especially in regards to the comment on contrast
Really superb display of maturity

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Valeriyabeyond said:

Take your bows Ahavati!!
For such an enlghtening selfless response especially in regards to the comment on contrast
Really superb display of maturity


Thank you, Val. I do appreciate your affirmation. However, I do want to make it clear that I understood and agree with what Johnny was saying in regards to repetition ( in general ). It is the same old same old without change, as though a stagnant pool without fresh water to keep it clean. And thus it becomes infested with disease.

We ALL know that government cannot be trusted; we ALL know that politics is corrupt; we ALL know that many officials and organizations are taking advantage of a global pandemic; however, the difference is hope. It's pessimism and doom vs. optimism and faith ( in whatever you believe in ). I believe in the power of love to overcome this situation.

Some of us believe things will all work out for the best; I am one. That makes me a sheep in that pasture. Mindtrain and others touting we're sheep are mere sheep themselves, just in another grazing pasture along with other likeminded sheep.

We are ALL sheep, just in different fields and flocks.  We are ALL subject to the laws of the land. NONE of us are in control. NONE of us. ALL of us would be arrested and possibly imprisoned for breaking those laws. All we can do is make the best of a situation, and if it comes to a choice between life and death in regards to whatever measure has arisen i.e. — a vaccine, then hopefully that choice will be individual, and each person sheep will respect another's choice in what pasture they wish to graze.

It all comes down to respect and kindness. Point a finger call a name you have three pointing back at you. Believe me on that. We are ALL grazing our way back home to a Universal pasture.  

Again, thank you, Val. This was not directed at you personally, just a general observation.

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Ahavati said:

I am grateful for the contrast he provides. Without contrast we wouldn't realize what it is we do not wish in our lives, be it actions, words, or deeds.  However, when it comes to death tolls, and people suffering from both illness and loss ( be it loved one, friend, job, finances and so forth ), sensitivity is warranted. It DOES matter. So perhaps that's his lesson in this. Only he knows.

The more I have meditated about this entire situation, the more I am beginning to discern it's man against nature. It's that simple, yet I can't explain it beyond that; I could try, but for now words wouldn't be adequate.

Those who know, know. Those who don't, don't. Regardless, and this applies across the board in many things: Three things cannot stay hidden long: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

It will all come to a head the way the Spanish flu epidemic did. It will pass too. Will the world be the same? I hope not. I hope it's drastically changed for the better.

And life, as it always has, will continue because that's what life does. Energy survives despite form.


Nature is definitely challenging Humankind to be more sensitive to the needs of the many. Those who think only of themselves are at the highest risk. It's not just limited to the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions --- those purposely congregating without precautions are the bulk of the infections these days.


Ahavati said:

Thank you, Val. I do appreciate your affirmation. However, I do want to make it clear that I understood and agree with what Johnny was saying in regards to repetition ( in general ). It is the same old same old without change, as though a stagnant pool without fresh water to keep it clean. And thus it becomes infested with disease.

We ALL know that government cannot be trusted; we ALL know that politics is corrupt; we ALL know that many officials and organizations are taking advantage of a global pandemic; however, the difference is hope. It's pessimism and doom vs. optimism and faith ( in whatever you believe in ). I believe in the power of love to overcome this situation.

Some of us believe things will all work out for the best; I am one. That makes me a sheep in that pasture. Mindtrain and others touting we're sheep are mere sheep themselves, just in another grazing pasture along with other likeminded sheep.

We are ALL sheep, just in different fields and flocks.  We are ALL subject to the laws of the land. NONE of us are in control. NONE of us. ALL of us would be arrested and possibly imprisoned for breaking those laws. All we can do is make the best of a situation, and if it comes to a choice between life and death in regards to whatever measure has arisen i.e. — a vaccine, then hopefully that choice will be individual, and each person sheep will respect another's choice in what pasture they wish to graze.

It all comes down to respect and kindness. Point a finger call a name you have three pointing back at you. Believe me on that. We are ALL grazing our way back home to a Universal pasture.  

Again, thank you, Val. This was not directed at you personally, just a general observation.


Despite what we see as catastrophe on the surface, Nature has been in the business of ensuring all species survive and thrive for ... well, forever.

And anyone running their mouths off about what pieces of shit Democrats are has too much bias clouding their brains to offer any opinions worth taking seriously.

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Valeriyabeyond said:


My heart goes out to you I am so very sorry for your loss it's devestating

I posted somewhere in tge very beginning of this pandemic about how my Springer Spaniels in the early nineties had cantracted the Corona Virus one was a survivor and one unfortunately had died
I held him (Sampson) while he dies his saliva all over me . Whatever kept it from mutating then is researchable. Why did my female (Delilah) survive without no lingering effects? The antibodies they gave her on the second day of her symptoms CURED her but had no effect on her brother
That is very important information I feel could help.  
FYI my dogs came from South Carolina from the bloodline of Millie Bush
Outrageously expensive
Sad to see Sampson die so young at 6 months although Delilah lived to be 13 yrs.


Thank you, Val.

I can at least be thankful that their suffering was brief, as only those with poor immune systems were taken, and taken within 12 to 48 hours of symptom onset.

Watching 2 out of 3 perfectly healthy 12 week old kittens expire was especially devestating. The 3rd apparently had developed enough of an immune system to fight it off.  

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Ahavati said
It all comes down to respect and kindness. Point a finger call a name you have three pointing back at you. Believe me on that. We are ALL grazing our way back home to a Universal pasture.  

When one reads words written by those
one does not get on with
one must speak

We are ALL grazing our way back home to a Universal pasture.  

NICE WORDS TRUE WORDS

Despite what we see as catastrophe on the surface, Nature has been in the business of ensuring all species survive and thrive for ... well, forever

MY WORDS
BUT We as a Species
are in the business
of ensuring
Extinction
OF OTHERS

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The chances that children infected by Covid-19 could die are slim, as underage patients’ symptoms are markedly less acute than in those across other age groups, a promising study has suggested.
The research published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) involved a cohort of children aged 19 or under who had tested positive for coronavirus and been hospitalized between January and July of this year.
Of the 651 underage cases reviewed across England, Scotland, and Wales, only 18 percent required intensive care, the authors report. Six children – about 1 percent of the total cluster – had died, but they suffered from cardiac anomaly and bacterial sepsis, or were immunosuppressed by chemotherapy that hindered the coronavirus treatment.
Eighty-nine percent of the cohort were eventually discharged from hospital and the remaining 10 percent were undergoing treatment at the time of publication. “Children and young people have less severe acute Covid-19 than adults,” the researchers concluded.

Boy infected with Covid-19 ‘didn’t spread’ it to any of his 172 contacts, raising questions about child transmission – study

They listed the most common coronavirus symptoms in children admitted to hospital, among them fever, cough, shortness of breath, nausea, and vomiting. Others complained about stomach pain, headache, and a sore throat.
The news will be particularly reassuring for parents wary of sending their children back to school after the summer holiday, or allowing them to leave the home. “It’s vanishingly rare to have severe disease in children,” said Professor Calum Semple, professor of child health and outbreak medicine at the University of Liverpool, and the study’s co-author.
Notably, researchers found that being obese or black increases the risk of acute coronavirus, but to less of an extent than previously thought. “If you’re a black parent in Glasgow or London, your kids should still go back to school,” Semple assured.
Questions about child transmission have been raised over the past weeks and months, and the BMJ study seems to reinforce a hypothesis that Covid-19 symptoms are less severe in children. The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control suggests children “are much less likely to be hospitalized or have fatal outcomes than adults.”
“Those that do get sick tend to experience milder symptoms such as low-grade fever, fatigue, and cough,” adds Harvard Medical School. Some minors have had severe complications, “but this has been less common,” it clarified.

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‘Take off the mask!’ Thousands gather in London for ‘Unite for Freedom’ rally, demanding ‘back to normal now’ (VIDEOS)
29 Aug, 2020 20:26


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drone said:HomeUK News
‘Take off the mask!’ Thousands gather in London for ‘Unite for Freedom’ rally, demanding ‘back to normal now’ (VIDEOS)
29 Aug, 2020 20:26



Must be because they believe in the herd immunity, maybe they want to follow USA, Brasil and India.

Still people do not seem to understand the virus is exponential, this is the reason for an immediate quarantine as soon a case has been spotted, and not for the herd immunity.

Let's start with some basics. Suppose we have a population, and a certain number (N) of them are carrying the Covid-19 virus. For each infected person, there is some probability that they’ll pass it on to others. The probability differs from person to person, but overall, let’s say the number of infected people will increase by 20 percent the next day. That’s a daily infection rate of 0.20.

Notice what that means: As N increases, the number of new infections (𝚫N) each day constantly increases. When N is 1,000, there will be 200 new cases the next day. When N is 10,000, there will be 2,000 new cases the next day.


You see the problem, right? For 30 days the risk to others seems small, and nobody follows the CDC advice to stay home. Then suddenly, with no change in the infection rate, it explodes. That’s exponential growth for you: The situation is fine until it’s not, and then it’s too late.

The virus has an incubation time of 2 weeks, this mean before you feel sick, you have been infecting people for 2 weeks.

In the USA, the riots started in June, about 25.000 confirmed cases per day, by July there were about 75.000 confirmed cases, to that add those who did not do the test, the non-confirmed cases, and we might have almost 100k cases per day.

I wonder how many new cases will go up in the UK now, almost 1.500 confirmed cases today, they might increase within one month of about 180 new confirmed cases per day.

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My deer friends,

A woman has complained, privately, that she is 8 weeks pregnant, and has not even told her husband, or children.

Hoping to quietly visit the local abortion provider,
Alas, due to the lickdowns, and limiting medical supplies to essential services,
The clinic is closed.

What to do, what to do!

In other news,
To know the why we all got a
$1200 dollar stim check
Plus  a $600/week
Unemploy Bonus  

You have to thank Steve.

https://nyti.ms/3b710N5



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rabbitquest said:My deer friends,

A woman has complained, privately, that she is 8 weeks pregnant, and has not even told her husband, or children.

Hoping to quietly visit the local abortion provider,
Alas, due to the lickdowns, and limiting medical supplies to essential services,
The clinic is closed.

What to do, what to do!

In other news,
To know the why we all got a
$1200 dollar stim check
Plus  a $600/week
Unemploy Bonus  

You have to thank Steve.

https://nyti.ms/3b710N5
No



I tried no to comment guess I didn't try hard enough

I must have missed your point on the abortion comment because after trying to justify it in my head several different ways it doesn't pan out

Because she is in lockdown she can't have an abortion?
WTF rabbit
If her life were in danger she would go to the hospital
I believe she has the right to do what she chooses with her body. I understand if she did not want to bring ANOTHER child into this world . I understand if it's not her husband's child therefore she would not want him to find out
All those things are understandable
What is not is her irresponsibility, her lack of self control, her selfish behavior, her overall bad judgement and lack of values. I realize this is a scenario but undoubtedly this is happening somewhere. Oh dear I'm in lockdown I can't kill this child someone help me.
People grow the fuck up

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The WHO estimates 7 million pregnancies world wide due to disruptions in access to unplanned parenthood centers.

Ultimately this may exceed the current 900,000 worldwide Covid deaths


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rabbitquest said:The WHO estimates 7 million pregnancies world wide due to disruptions in access to unplanned parenthood centers.

Ultimately this may exceed the current 900,000 worldwide Covid deaths



So that's roughly SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND ABORTIONS?!?
You want to avoid reaching the 900 k death mark by opening access to abortions which would result in 700k deaths alone
Where is the sense in that
My daughter in law is unable to have children she's 35 there is nothing she wouldn't do to have a child and we are discussing a possible 700k abortions !!
Have a good day

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Valeriyabeyond said:

So that's roughly SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND ABORTIONS?!?
You want to avoid reaching the 900 k death mark by opening access to abortions which would result in 700k deaths alone
Where is the sense in that
My daughter in law is unable to have children she's 35 there is nothing she wouldn't do to have a child and we are discussing a possible 700k abortions !!
Have a good day


Val, it's understandable why the issue of abortion is a trigger for you; however, Rabbit isn't expressing his support for 7 million abortions. He merely made a statement that  7 million women had NO ACCESS to adequate birth control, thus it is estimated there will be 7 million pregnancies. Planned parenthood isn't just about abortion, but birth control. . .

That hardly deems these women irresponsible or selfish.  And you don't know that they didn't want to have sex, but husbands. . .you don't know anything about their situations at all to judge them so harshly. Particularly when there was no access to birth control.

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