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some kind of king
I know I’m a fuck up
just like I know you are too
and this is how;
we get born
as close to human as we’ll ever be
covered in mucus and perfection
then into the arms of the broken people
who’ll do us wrong
by spilling their un-rose-coloured lives into us
while we are too young to know
that mommy and daddy and uncle
don’t have a fucking clue
and worse
that they love us most
when we fail
so they can say something along the lines of
“chip off the old block”
or some other kiss of death
I walked into the corner shop today
thinking like that
to see the old guy behind the counter
head down
mulling
he looked up
saw me
said “what can I do for you my friend?”
but I couldn’t stomach even the idea of a lie
said “there’s no hope for me mate
save yourself
if you can”
and walked back out into the sun
stopped on the footpath
mind empty as a Christian’s heaven
yeah everyone’s a fuck-up
and right now
I must be some kind
of king
just like I know you are too
and this is how;
we get born
as close to human as we’ll ever be
covered in mucus and perfection
then into the arms of the broken people
who’ll do us wrong
by spilling their un-rose-coloured lives into us
while we are too young to know
that mommy and daddy and uncle
don’t have a fucking clue
and worse
that they love us most
when we fail
so they can say something along the lines of
“chip off the old block”
or some other kiss of death
I walked into the corner shop today
thinking like that
to see the old guy behind the counter
head down
mulling
he looked up
saw me
said “what can I do for you my friend?”
but I couldn’t stomach even the idea of a lie
said “there’s no hope for me mate
save yourself
if you can”
and walked back out into the sun
stopped on the footpath
mind empty as a Christian’s heaven
yeah everyone’s a fuck-up
and right now
I must be some kind
of king
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re: Re: some kind of king
2nd Oct 2012 11:28pm
re: Re: some kind of king
Yes, I completely agree, and to expand somewhat;
- the use of 'un' at the front of a couple of words seems laboured, and should almost certainly be dropped from the piece
- the change of scene, in going from generalising to the shop and the man, seems far to abrupt...almost like a new poem
- what is actually implied by the last line? Is this a song of victory, or defeat?
- how does this work tie into the larger story being presented by the author?
- was the interaction between the narrator and the man believable? I don't think so...the man never had a voice, and to say that someone is looking down, thinking, is guessing or imposing ideas on another person that frankly cannot have been known.
- does this poem smell like a cheap Bukowski knock-off; the angst-ridden cliche' wandering the streets doing battle with himself? I would say yes.
All good points my dear...you will go far.
dp
- the use of 'un' at the front of a couple of words seems laboured, and should almost certainly be dropped from the piece
- the change of scene, in going from generalising to the shop and the man, seems far to abrupt...almost like a new poem
- what is actually implied by the last line? Is this a song of victory, or defeat?
- how does this work tie into the larger story being presented by the author?
- was the interaction between the narrator and the man believable? I don't think so...the man never had a voice, and to say that someone is looking down, thinking, is guessing or imposing ideas on another person that frankly cannot have been known.
- does this poem smell like a cheap Bukowski knock-off; the angst-ridden cliche' wandering the streets doing battle with himself? I would say yes.
All good points my dear...you will go far.
dp
re: re: Re: some kind of king
Anonymous
3rd Oct 2012 9:20am
Yes the change of scene is jarry. Have you considered inverting the story, posibly go from the shop to the general to the walk out of the door?
I don't think the author needs to concern about cheap knockoffs here, the narators voice is much stronger than average. It comes through well.
Being a strong narative, would the need for a relationship bewteen the two be of any value. I don't think so.
So I conclude that this is really a "nice" poem.
Or alternatively a humdinger of hardship that shudders through the veins of the sensitive.
Well done good comment there. Nice poem to.
Al.
I don't think the author needs to concern about cheap knockoffs here, the narators voice is much stronger than average. It comes through well.
Being a strong narative, would the need for a relationship bewteen the two be of any value. I don't think so.
So I conclude that this is really a "nice" poem.
Or alternatively a humdinger of hardship that shudders through the veins of the sensitive.
Well done good comment there. Nice poem to.
Al.

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re: re: re: Re: some kind of king
are you aware that this particular author takes "nice" as an insult?! yeesh. and you call yourselves fans. ;]
i liked the 'moment' it was. strangely, i've been catching myself saying "what can i do for you?" and every time i do i get that check in my head of how they should answer me, and it has everything to do with this poem.
the empty mind is what makes you feel light, sun, open, (alive?) - whether it's futile in the end or not, it's an alleviation. i like that about it... an empty mind is a thing i go looking for sometimes. don't can this write, but i do think there's something off about the flow in comparison to your others. i'll have another gander, see if i can't pick it out (since i know you're looking for nit-picks). [:
i may have misread what you're implying. i interpreted this way differently my first couple of reads, and i might need another run through with what i've just noticed. well slipped, DP. well slipped. [:
i liked the 'moment' it was. strangely, i've been catching myself saying "what can i do for you?" and every time i do i get that check in my head of how they should answer me, and it has everything to do with this poem.
the empty mind is what makes you feel light, sun, open, (alive?) - whether it's futile in the end or not, it's an alleviation. i like that about it... an empty mind is a thing i go looking for sometimes. don't can this write, but i do think there's something off about the flow in comparison to your others. i'll have another gander, see if i can't pick it out (since i know you're looking for nit-picks). [:
i may have misread what you're implying. i interpreted this way differently my first couple of reads, and i might need another run through with what i've just noticed. well slipped, DP. well slipped. [:
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re: re: re: Re: some kind of king
3rd Oct 2012 10:55am
mr lip...your eyes have come a long way in the time you have been here...respect man. Your points were all good ideas. I didn't think of reversing the order, and it may well have worked just fine...good on you :-)
dp
dp
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Anonymous
4th Oct 2012 10:26pm
sir! all the edits here ROCK but your addition of 'mulling' is bloody wonderful. this is definately a highlight piece for me.

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4th Oct 2012 11:25pm
Good on you man...the edits were to smooth the idea out, and to remove some repeated words. Lovin' the love :-)
dp
dp
Re: some kind of king
3rd Oct 2012 8:01am
You are a king in a lot of ways.. mother may i sleep with danger?. oh thats right i'm sleeping with you .into and out of the same bed their sins are fed.
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re: Re: some kind of king
3rd Oct 2012 10:51am
ah d...i see you are following your own path today...well, good on you for living large, and thank you, really, for doing it while reading me :-)
dp
dp
Re: some kind of king
3rd Oct 2012 8:09am
I think "it's what we do", works badly as a bridge from the first stanza: "I'm a fuck up/you are too/it's what we do" I believe "it's how we are" would work more seamlessly and tight.
You're right about the Bukowski feel, but the voice is definitely different.
"mind empty as a Christian's heaven" great line but I think an 'as' is missing from before "empty", but with the strong voice here you could get away with it.
I think we're born as animals or almost alien and it's these fuckers raising us, influencing us that make us humanity so you made me think a little there.
The philosophical aspect with the voice works well. Bit of trimming and phrasing could make this a fucking good poem in my opinion. Thanks for the read.
You're right about the Bukowski feel, but the voice is definitely different.
"mind empty as a Christian's heaven" great line but I think an 'as' is missing from before "empty", but with the strong voice here you could get away with it.
I think we're born as animals or almost alien and it's these fuckers raising us, influencing us that make us humanity so you made me think a little there.
The philosophical aspect with the voice works well. Bit of trimming and phrasing could make this a fucking good poem in my opinion. Thanks for the read.
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re: Re: some kind of king
by christ mr a...that's a fine read. You are right about the bridge...good man.
thank you for the time...and nice to see you in the house :-)
dp
thank you for the time...and nice to see you in the house :-)
dp
Re: some kind of king
6th Oct 2012 11:44pm
Shit, that's good.
I've got nothing valid to add, except... shit, that's really good.
Your style is fucking brilliant.
Happy writing, dp,
betty
I've got nothing valid to add, except... shit, that's really good.
Your style is fucking brilliant.
Happy writing, dp,
betty
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re: Re: some kind of king
6th Oct 2012 11:54pm
Re: some kind of king
Anonymous
- Edited 7th Oct 2012 00:22am
7th Oct 2012 00:21am
DP, I follow you not just for your work (prolific, clever, wrenching) but for your reaction to comments others make on your work, the above being perfect examples. You poet, comedian, smartass devil, carry on just as you are man, carry on :-p
PS “there’s no hope for me mate save yourself if you can” had me laugh and groan at once. Evoking those two reactions at the exact same time? Yeah, epic DPness right there.
PS “there’s no hope for me mate save yourself if you can” had me laugh and groan at once. Evoking those two reactions at the exact same time? Yeah, epic DPness right there.

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re: Re: some kind of king
7th Oct 2012 00:39am
christ they were some nice things to say...got me shut up tight in case my face leaks :-)