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#EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
When God allots the shares to man
in wealth, in luck, in everything,
man always starts to negotiate
and say his lot is not enough.
He claims he loves his kin and friends
and speaks about his love to them.
Despite all that, he asks the Lord
why He gives more to those he knows.
How much he lies about his love
to friends to neighbours and his boss,
but he complains that they take more
than they deserve and he takes less.
But when the Lord gives each his mind,
he smiles and starts to run away,
afraid the Lord will redecide
while he is glad with what he's had.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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When God allots the shares to man
in wealth, in luck, in everything,
man always starts to negotiate
and say his lot is not enough.
He claims he loves his kin and friends
and speaks about his love to them.
Despite all that, he asks the Lord
why He gives more to those he knows.
How much he lies about his love
to friends to neighbours and his boss,
but he complains that they take more
than they deserve and he takes less.
But when the Lord gives each his mind,
he smiles and starts to run away,
afraid the Lord will redecide
while he is glad with what he's had.
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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Re. #EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
"When God allots the shares to man
in wealth, in luck, in everything,
man always starts to negotiate
and say his lot is not enough."
Always? Really? Do you do this?
in wealth, in luck, in everything,
man always starts to negotiate
and say his lot is not enough."
Always? Really? Do you do this?
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Anonymous
- Edited 8th Dec 2022 1:15am
8th Dec 2022 1:13am
Baldwin, with love, and Respect,
What the fuck are you talking about. Honestly I am desirous to know what your sensitivity of mind interprets into the conversation? I think you are keen, and a poet of merit your
Sincerety
A curious and interested bystander
What the fuck are you talking about. Honestly I am desirous to know what your sensitivity of mind interprets into the conversation? I think you are keen, and a poet of merit your
Sincerety
A curious and interested bystander
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Are you not a man?
Man (i.e., mankind) **always** negotiates with God to get more than he is allotted by God
You are a member of mankind
Therefore you negotiate with God to get more than God allots to you.
If the premises are true, the conclusion follows.
Man (i.e., mankind) **always** negotiates with God to get more than he is allotted by God
You are a member of mankind
Therefore you negotiate with God to get more than God allots to you.
If the premises are true, the conclusion follows.
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Anonymous
- Edited 8th Dec 2022 4:01am
8th Dec 2022 2:59am
Oh! Then you here, in tandem with the author, raise an interesting question into my mind. Are not all living creatures desirous of having more than they find they have been allotted? Or at the very least, to perhaps rephrase the question, when we are hungry? I myself possess a great spiritual hunger, and a thirst. I believe I perceive within both yourself and that self of the author whose work we chance to discuss, a similar trait to that of my own, just aforementioned.
It is a pleasure to discourse with you. Thank you for humoring me with your reply, and I look forward to speaking again if you so choose.
E.
It is a pleasure to discourse with you. Thank you for humoring me with your reply, and I look forward to speaking again if you so choose.
E.
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8th Dec 2022 1:20pm
":Oh! Then you here, in tandem with the author, raise an interesting question into my mind. Are not all living creatures desirous of having more than they find they have been allotted?"
All living creatures? No. And there is the fact that what someone is allotted by life is, given their legitimate needs, unjust. Job did not deserve what God allowed to be handed to him -- as God himself admits. And Abraham noted that god's intentions where unfitting for one who was to be guided by what was right. Have you read the Psalms of Lament?
And that you perceive a hunger for something does not mean that you always desire more than is allotted to you, let alone that everyone does or that it is wrong to do so and always leads (as J-Z falsely claims) to lying. Did not Jesus say "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteouness"?
All living creatures? No. And there is the fact that what someone is allotted by life is, given their legitimate needs, unjust. Job did not deserve what God allowed to be handed to him -- as God himself admits. And Abraham noted that god's intentions where unfitting for one who was to be guided by what was right. Have you read the Psalms of Lament?
And that you perceive a hunger for something does not mean that you always desire more than is allotted to you, let alone that everyone does or that it is wrong to do so and always leads (as J-Z falsely claims) to lying. Did not Jesus say "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteouness"?
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8th Dec 2022 12:33pm
Very dear Em-ily,
I am very glad to read that you possess a great spiritual hunger and thirst. There is no hope for a human being to be happy and satisfied, especially if he is a thinker, without depending on spirituality.
Thank you for your logical defence. I believe that once a poem is written and published, it becomes a free entity. It's a shame to it to defend it. It has to defend itself. Baldwin has a grudge against me. I am sure he is jealous of me. He has it out on me because he is emptily too proud of himself. When l find him illogical, l don't answer him. Again, l am very thankful to you for everything, and l hope to cooperate with you in everything.
I am very glad to read that you possess a great spiritual hunger and thirst. There is no hope for a human being to be happy and satisfied, especially if he is a thinker, without depending on spirituality.
Thank you for your logical defence. I believe that once a poem is written and published, it becomes a free entity. It's a shame to it to defend it. It has to defend itself. Baldwin has a grudge against me. I am sure he is jealous of me. He has it out on me because he is emptily too proud of himself. When l find him illogical, l don't answer him. Again, l am very thankful to you for everything, and l hope to cooperate with you in everything.
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My question follows from the logic that stands behind your piece and is grounded in a claim you made. . IF it's true, as you claim, that all mankind always desires more from God than god allots every man, then you (unless you are not a man) also engage in selfishness.
Are you now claiming that the major premise of your piece is not true?
And BTW, Em-ily's message was to me, not you, and she defends my observation of how your claim justifies my asking if you are not also guilty of what you say **all** men **always** do.
Are you now claiming that the major premise of your piece is not true?
And BTW, Em-ily's message was to me, not you, and she defends my observation of how your claim justifies my asking if you are not also guilty of what you say **all** men **always** do.
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8th Dec 2022 3:39pm
"There is no hope for a human being to be happy and satisfied, especially if he is a thinker, without depending on spirituality."
Really? Would you care to provide proof of this claim?
Really? Would you care to provide proof of this claim?
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8th Dec 2022 9:25pm
"Baldwin has a grudge against me. I am sure he is jealous of me"
Why on earth would I be jealous of you?
Why on earth would I be jealous of you?
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8th Dec 2022 1:26pm
Dear Baldwin,
First, why do you write the word, God, once with a capital letter, then with a small letter? I find no reason for that.
When people speak with their soul where God dwells, they ask Him, 'Why haven't You given me more of this or that?" All women ask for more beauty, and all men ask for more power. By your honour, don't you ask for something more for yourself? You surprise me. Why do you ask such ... questions?
First, why do you write the word, God, once with a capital letter, then with a small letter? I find no reason for that.
When people speak with their soul where God dwells, they ask Him, 'Why haven't You given me more of this or that?" All women ask for more beauty, and all men ask for more power. By your honour, don't you ask for something more for yourself? You surprise me. Why do you ask such ... questions?
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So you ARE guilty of what you say "Man" should not do.
And you have yet to show that it is true that when people speak with their soul where God dwells, they ALWAYS ask Him, 'Why haven't You given me more of this or that?" not to mention that it is wrong to do so.
In any case, the Psalms, not to mention the prayer of Hannah and Magnificat, show that once again you do not know what you are talking about.
And you have yet to show that it is true that when people speak with their soul where God dwells, they ALWAYS ask Him, 'Why haven't You given me more of this or that?" not to mention that it is wrong to do so.
In any case, the Psalms, not to mention the prayer of Hannah and Magnificat, show that once again you do not know what you are talking about.
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8th Dec 2022 7:25pm
"... why do you write the word, God, once with a capital letter, then with a small letter? I find no reason for that
"it's a shame to **it** to defend **it**"..
Why the solecism? I find a reason for it,, namely that you are a clumsy writer who does not take the time to proofread what you write or to ensure that what you write makes sense.
And the idea that claims do not have to be defended is nonsense. Are you or are you not responsible for what you write?
"it's a shame to **it** to defend **it**"..
Why the solecism? I find a reason for it,, namely that you are a clumsy writer who does not take the time to proofread what you write or to ensure that what you write makes sense.
And the idea that claims do not have to be defended is nonsense. Are you or are you not responsible for what you write?
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"By your honour, don't you ask for something more for yourself?"
Your implicit claim that I am less than honourable when I write to you is insulting and beneath you, not to mention an indefensible and unsubstantiated charge. .
In any case, it is wholly ironic that I am being asked to speak by my honour by someone who is demonstrably without it, given how often he engages in ad hominems, misrepresents what I write in order to score points against me, makes false/unsupportable claims, refuses to be responsible for them by backing them up when asked to do so, arrogates to himself privileges that he will not grant to others, pretends to have knowledge of things he knows little about, and then insults those who show how little he actually knows instead of admitting his mistakes, and repeatedly and shamelessly lies about how "all" my submissions are inspired by his "work".
Your implicit claim that I am less than honourable when I write to you is insulting and beneath you, not to mention an indefensible and unsubstantiated charge. .
In any case, it is wholly ironic that I am being asked to speak by my honour by someone who is demonstrably without it, given how often he engages in ad hominems, misrepresents what I write in order to score points against me, makes false/unsupportable claims, refuses to be responsible for them by backing them up when asked to do so, arrogates to himself privileges that he will not grant to others, pretends to have knowledge of things he knows little about, and then insults those who show how little he actually knows instead of admitting his mistakes, and repeatedly and shamelessly lies about how "all" my submissions are inspired by his "work".
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8th Dec 2022 2:44pm
Re. #EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
10th Dec 2022 4:06pm
hanks for the laugh, J-Z.
Your claim that I am jealous of your poetry
assumes that you have written things
that fill me up
with envy of the way you set out words
upon a page
and make me rage that I’m
unable to compose a thing or two
that even comes within a mile
of imitating you.
The problem, though, is that your way,
with all its grammar gaffes
fallacious and pretentious claims,
inclarity of thought,
inversions causing dread,
a lack of concrete imagery
the sacrifice of sense to get a rhyme
great incoherenceies from line to line
mistitleing of text
pomposity and deixis
didacticism through and through
and faulty English, too,
displays
no talent on your part
or skill to phrase your themes
with requisite linguistic mastery
to make me (or any reader) think
that if I followed you in writing as you do
that I’d produce a “write”
that was in substance or its sway
possessing any art
let alone a composition worthy
to be read.
There’s nothing there, you see,
that would the green-eyed monster rouse
inside of me.
In fact, it’s right to say
your “work” exemplifies
how not to write
if one would a good poet be,
And BTW
that whirring sound you hear
comes from the rolling in the graves
of those you say hold to be
the masters of good poetry
at your claim (so hollow) that you
when writing lines
so awkwardly
do nothing more than their example
follow,
let alone that you're their best poetic heir.
Your claim that I am jealous of your poetry
assumes that you have written things
that fill me up
with envy of the way you set out words
upon a page
and make me rage that I’m
unable to compose a thing or two
that even comes within a mile
of imitating you.
The problem, though, is that your way,
with all its grammar gaffes
fallacious and pretentious claims,
inclarity of thought,
inversions causing dread,
a lack of concrete imagery
the sacrifice of sense to get a rhyme
great incoherenceies from line to line
mistitleing of text
pomposity and deixis
didacticism through and through
and faulty English, too,
displays
no talent on your part
or skill to phrase your themes
with requisite linguistic mastery
to make me (or any reader) think
that if I followed you in writing as you do
that I’d produce a “write”
that was in substance or its sway
possessing any art
let alone a composition worthy
to be read.
There’s nothing there, you see,
that would the green-eyed monster rouse
inside of me.
In fact, it’s right to say
your “work” exemplifies
how not to write
if one would a good poet be,
And BTW
that whirring sound you hear
comes from the rolling in the graves
of those you say hold to be
the masters of good poetry
at your claim (so hollow) that you
when writing lines
so awkwardly
do nothing more than their example
follow,
let alone that you're their best poetic heir.
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Re. #EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
True and well said, man is ever covetous, but when he gets blessings he never questions whether he deserves it or not. Kudos for a great poem!!
Plz also read and comment my newest poem too.
Plz also read and comment my newest poem too.
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"Kudos for a great poem!!"
I am very curious to know what your criteria are for judging a "poem" to be "great".
And did you mean "comment ON my newest poem"? "Comment my newest poem" is grammatically incorrect..
I am very curious to know what your criteria are for judging a "poem" to be "great".
And did you mean "comment ON my newest poem"? "Comment my newest poem" is grammatically incorrect..
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11th Dec 2022 6:36pm
Very dear Zaynab,
Thank you very much for your great comment. I loved it, especially when you said,"...if he deserves it or not." You are really great to say so. Right now l'll have a look at your poem and tell you my real impression on it. Thank you again for defying this block of aggression who defies anyone who tries to praise my poetry and he attacks them fiercely, so they must be courageous enough to face such a person before they write something favorable about my poetry.
Thank you very much for your great comment. I loved it, especially when you said,"...if he deserves it or not." You are really great to say so. Right now l'll have a look at your poem and tell you my real impression on it. Thank you again for defying this block of aggression who defies anyone who tries to praise my poetry and he attacks them fiercely, so they must be courageous enough to face such a person before they write something favorable about my poetry.
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Another lie from you. Please show me where I **attacked** Zaynab, let alone fiercely, or "defied" him.
I asked a question -- and a perfectly legitimate one at that..
Moreover, there are lots of instances when people who have been blessed ask if they deserve to be so, e.g., Gen. 32:10
"I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant. I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps."
So you both don't know what you are talking about.
Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/I-Am-Not-Worthy/type/nasb
And it's "impression of" not "impression on".
I asked a question -- and a perfectly legitimate one at that..
Moreover, there are lots of instances when people who have been blessed ask if they deserve to be so, e.g., Gen. 32:10
"I am unworthy of all the kindness and faithfulness you have shown your servant. I had only my staff when I crossed this Jordan, but now I have become two camps."
So you both don't know what you are talking about.
Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/phrases/I-Am-Not-Worthy/type/nasb
And it's "impression of" not "impression on".
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11th Dec 2022 9:18pm
Re. #EACH LIKES HIS OWN.
I did, and here's what Collins says:
"Sorry, no results for “impression on” in the English Dictionary. "
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/spellcheck/english?q=impression+on
But on "impression" it notes:
Definition of 'impression'
Word Frequency
impression
(ɪmpreʃən IPA Pronunciation Guide)
Word forms: plural impressions
1. COUNTABLE NOUN [oft poss NOUN, NOUN that] B2
Your impression of a person or thing is what you think they are like, usually after having seen or heard them. Your impression of a situation is what you think is going on.
What were your first impressions of college? [+ of]
My impression is that they are totally out of control.
There was a general impression that tomorrow meant a fresh start.
Synonyms: idea, feeling, thought, sense More Synonyms of impression
2. SINGULAR NOUN [oft NOUN that] B2
If someone gives you a particular impression, they cause you to believe that something is the case, often when it is not.
I don't want to give the impression that I'm running away from the charges.
He cleverly inserted mirrors above the window to create an impression of space.
[Also + of]
3. COUNTABLE NOUN
An impression is an amusing imitation of someone's behaviour or way of talking, usually someone well-known.
At college in Glasgow he did impressions of teachers, but was otherwise well behaved. [+ of]
4. COUNTABLE NOUN
An impression of an object is a mark or outline that it has left after being pressed hard onto a surface.
...the world's oldest fossil impressions of plant life. [+ of]
Synonyms: mark, imprint, stamp, stamping More Synonyms of impression
And from Longman:
impression
Word family (noun) impression impressionism impressionist impressiveness (adjective) impressionable impressive ≠ unimpressive impressionistic unimpressed (verb) impress (adverb) impressively impressionistically
From Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English
Related topics: Newspapers, printing, publishing
im‧pres‧sion /ɪmˈpreʃən/ ●●○ S3 W2 noun
1 [countable, uncountable] the opinion or feeling you have about someone or something because of the way they seem
When we looked around the school we got a very good impression.
I got the impression that she wasn't very happy with her job
.
impression of
What was your impression of Roger?
► see thesaurus at idea
2 → be under the impression (that)
3 [countable] if you do an impression of a famous person, you copy their speech or behaviour in order to make people laugh SYN imitation
Jean does a great impression of Madonna.
4 [countable] a picture or drawing of what someone or something might look like, or what something will look like in the future
impression of
an artist’s impression of the new building
5 [countable] a mark left by pressing something into a soft surface
Some of the fallen trees had left a clear impression in the hardened mud.
6 [countable] all the copies of a book printed at one time → edition
"impression on" means "to leave a mark upon something" which is presumably not what you were saying you were going to do after reading Z's latest submission.
So once again, your grasp of correct English idiom is poor.
And why do you never thank those who demonstrate that it is?
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Dear Baldwin,
In your answer, l read that you did not find,"impression on" in Collins. Here l tell you, look up the word "impression" in "COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY".
You will find these two sentences in this entry:
1- He has told me his plan and he's made a good impression on me.
2- The type of aid coming in makes no immediate impression on the horrific death rate.
BTW, l read only the first three lines of your answer. I tell you this in order to say, you don't have to trouble yourself and write these lengthy accounts in the future.
In your answer, l read that you did not find,"impression on" in Collins. Here l tell you, look up the word "impression" in "COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY".
You will find these two sentences in this entry:
1- He has told me his plan and he's made a good impression on me.
2- The type of aid coming in makes no immediate impression on the horrific death rate.
BTW, l read only the first three lines of your answer. I tell you this in order to say, you don't have to trouble yourself and write these lengthy accounts in the future.
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Dear Baldwin,
In your answer, l read that you did not find,[sic] "impression on" in Collins."
NO. I noted that the Collins site said that there was no entry for that expression. Once again you engage in the underhanded and dishonourable tactic of putting words in my mouth.
"Here l tell you, look up the word "impression" in "COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY".
You will find these two sentences in this entry:
1- He has told me his plan and he's made a good impression on me.
2- The type of aid coming in makes no immediate impression on the horrific death rate."
I have no doubt that what you quote is to be found in the COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY". But the issue is NOT whether or not the expression "impression on" is used. It's what it signifies when used. You are ignoring the fact that what is being said here about the expression "impression on" is that it means "to leave a mark on something". But given that you were NOT saying that you intended to leave an imprint of something on Z's piece once you had read it, but to give him your opinion of it (" l'll have a look at your poem and tell you my real impression on it"). "impression on" is not the expression you needed to use. "impression of" is especially since it it is to be something you are going to "tell" him.
So once again, you do not read the sources that supposedly support your fallacious claims without understanding what they actually support.
Would you care to show the entirety of the entry on "impression" in the COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY" (to which I have no access)? I'm wagering that you will not do so because it will provide evidence against your unsupported claim about how "impression on" is grammatically and, in terms of sense, correct.
In your answer, l read that you did not find,[sic] "impression on" in Collins."
NO. I noted that the Collins site said that there was no entry for that expression. Once again you engage in the underhanded and dishonourable tactic of putting words in my mouth.
"Here l tell you, look up the word "impression" in "COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY".
You will find these two sentences in this entry:
1- He has told me his plan and he's made a good impression on me.
2- The type of aid coming in makes no immediate impression on the horrific death rate."
I have no doubt that what you quote is to be found in the COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY". But the issue is NOT whether or not the expression "impression on" is used. It's what it signifies when used. You are ignoring the fact that what is being said here about the expression "impression on" is that it means "to leave a mark on something". But given that you were NOT saying that you intended to leave an imprint of something on Z's piece once you had read it, but to give him your opinion of it (" l'll have a look at your poem and tell you my real impression on it"). "impression on" is not the expression you needed to use. "impression of" is especially since it it is to be something you are going to "tell" him.
So once again, you do not read the sources that supposedly support your fallacious claims without understanding what they actually support.
Would you care to show the entirety of the entry on "impression" in the COLLINS COBUILD YORK ENGLISH DICTIONARY" (to which I have no access)? I'm wagering that you will not do so because it will provide evidence against your unsupported claim about how "impression on" is grammatically and, in terms of sense, correct.
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"I tell you this in order to say, you don't have to trouble yourself and write these lengthy accounts in the future."
I'm wagering that you say this because these "lengthy accounts" show that you don't know what you are talking about and reveal that your grasp of English idiom is very, very poor.
I'm wagering that you say this because these "lengthy accounts" show that you don't know what you are talking about and reveal that your grasp of English idiom is very, very poor.
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12th Dec 2022 5:10pm
"He claims he loves his kin and friends
and speaks about his love to them."
For instead of "love to", "love for" would be more apt.
"Despite all that, he asks the Lord
why He gives more to those he knows"
You imply that asking this shows that the man you speak of does not love those he knows. But why this would be the case is hardly clear, especially if it is true that God gives more to those the man knows than God gives him and the man wants to know if this is something he is at fault for.
In any case, you still haven't shown that it is true that after getting his divine allotment "man" "AWAYS" starts to negotiate [with God} and says his lot is not enough."
and speaks about his love to them."
For instead of "love to", "love for" would be more apt.
"Despite all that, he asks the Lord
why He gives more to those he knows"
You imply that asking this shows that the man you speak of does not love those he knows. But why this would be the case is hardly clear, especially if it is true that God gives more to those the man knows than God gives him and the man wants to know if this is something he is at fault for.
In any case, you still haven't shown that it is true that after getting his divine allotment "man" "AWAYS" starts to negotiate [with God} and says his lot is not enough."
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15th Dec 2022 2:53pm
Hey! This poem is such a Clear explanation for People's way to assess gratitude!!! I have been very grateful for what I already have lately!
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