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To guys who don’t read girls
I guess I’d question why
you even read at all,
if not to know people and life
much deeper than you know it now,
and feel the flavour of the fate
that’s also feminine.
It is, I suppose, an opposing pose.
Do you even read men?
Or just gaze glassily at Faulkner
and think about 10-dollar words?
(But only in a Starbucks, of course.)
And if what know about girls is just
whatever you’ve gleaned from de Sade,
and even that dead libertine reflected on
by dust in sunlight more than eyes,
I have to ask: are you even good in bed?
Or just good at teaching a girl
how to fake an orgasm?
We none of us are saints, my dear.
My shelves, I must confess,
are white as Lily’s of the field,
but just as any penitent one tries
to look beyond Lily’s bloomers.
And God believes in you, young chap,
enough to not fake ecstasy
and sell her charms to make pop songs,
pornography, and fashion shoots.
you even read at all,
if not to know people and life
much deeper than you know it now,
and feel the flavour of the fate
that’s also feminine.
It is, I suppose, an opposing pose.
Do you even read men?
Or just gaze glassily at Faulkner
and think about 10-dollar words?
(But only in a Starbucks, of course.)
And if what know about girls is just
whatever you’ve gleaned from de Sade,
and even that dead libertine reflected on
by dust in sunlight more than eyes,
I have to ask: are you even good in bed?
Or just good at teaching a girl
how to fake an orgasm?
We none of us are saints, my dear.
My shelves, I must confess,
are white as Lily’s of the field,
but just as any penitent one tries
to look beyond Lily’s bloomers.
And God believes in you, young chap,
enough to not fake ecstasy
and sell her charms to make pop songs,
pornography, and fashion shoots.
Published 12th Aug 2022
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12th Aug 2022 12:13pm
I suck in bed
That's why she loves me
Elegant words Mr Karswell
Reminds me of LA Woman for some reason
BIG LIKE
That's why she loves me
Elegant words Mr Karswell
Reminds me of LA Woman for some reason
BIG LIKE
12th Aug 2022 12:24pm
Much to digest here Runes. Particularly enjoyed last 2 stanzas, which are cutting. If any male considers it an affront to his machismo territory to read female writers, then I pity them. It's their loss.
There are males in my circles of friends who have never read a novel (written by man, woman or goat) and that is equally unfathomable to me.
There are males in my circles of friends who have never read a novel (written by man, woman or goat) and that is equally unfathomable to me.
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- Edited 13th Aug 2022 5:31am
13th Aug 2022 4:19am
I confess: I don't read girls, except Dickinson (& KristinaX, of course) about whom the gender-dysphoric Camille Paglia (who considers her own masculine mind a mental illness, *not* an orientation / identity) wrote:
Emily Dickinson is the female Sade, and her poems are the prison dreams of a self-incarcerated, sadomasochistic imaginist. When she is rescued from American Studies departments and juxtaposed with Dante and Baudelaire, her barbarities and diabolical acts of will become glaringly apparent. Dickinson inherits through Blake the rape cycle of The Faerie Queene. Blake and Spenser are her allies in helping pagan Coleridge defeat Protestant Wordsworth.
The idea that understanding of the female body is a function of reading literature by women is strange. I understand it the other way around: I learned about language from the female body. I assume it's this way for every man.
Emily Dickinson is the female Sade, and her poems are the prison dreams of a self-incarcerated, sadomasochistic imaginist. When she is rescued from American Studies departments and juxtaposed with Dante and Baudelaire, her barbarities and diabolical acts of will become glaringly apparent. Dickinson inherits through Blake the rape cycle of The Faerie Queene. Blake and Spenser are her allies in helping pagan Coleridge defeat Protestant Wordsworth.
The idea that understanding of the female body is a function of reading literature by women is strange. I understand it the other way around: I learned about language from the female body. I assume it's this way for every man.
15th Aug 2022 1:58am
I haven’t read much Paglia, but that reading of Dickinson feels utterly bizarre and juvenile. It sounds like academic cant, the sort of nonsense that popular academics like to spout.
With regards to your commentary re female bodies/language, I wasn’t trying to make the point that understanding the female body is a function of literature. Nor that language is learned about from the female body. Both of those ideas are very strange. I was merely trying to pose a rhetorical question related to how reading books by women as well as men can allow you (in my opinion) to empathise with them more.
With regards to your commentary re female bodies/language, I wasn’t trying to make the point that understanding the female body is a function of literature. Nor that language is learned about from the female body. Both of those ideas are very strange. I was merely trying to pose a rhetorical question related to how reading books by women as well as men can allow you (in my opinion) to empathise with them more.
