WAS THAT FAIR?

Sounds like a tangled mess.  

Yes, it is a tangled mess as what we see in life. Thank you very much, Lozzamus, for your read, like, and very appreciated encouragement.

Besides asking whether one ever has "an" intercourse rather than intercourse, and whether "\

He ...  had good time.

is a solecism if you meant to say "he had **A ** good time (doing what he did)" or "he had good times (killing small birds)" and syntactically means that "he timed out well",  
  
what has this piece to do with fairness?

A little bird pooped in my hair
I asked the Father, Was this fair?”.
For I’d just exited the hair salon
and now my “do”
is doodoo gone.
I’d hoped to have
“an” intercourse
with luscious men
down by the river’s source
but all I feel is dark remorse
since seeing what’s above my pate
they’ll find themselves
aroused to a disgusted state
then fly away
and I won’t get
my ego boosting sex today.

"a hawk
whose high respect filled all the sky."

What does "high respect" denote?  How does it differ from a low respect and how does a thing's respect fill all the sky?

What does this piece have to do with fairness?
How don't you understand HOW, Baldwin? You really surprise me. You are really full of rancor, Baldwin. Please, forget your rancor, and speak seriously. This is poetry. Try to have a clear conscience towards other people's efforts. If you don't believe in God, as it seems to me, don't you have a conscience that should be kept clear?

What is it that I don't understand?  That a male hawk gets to make love whenever he wants without consequence (so long as he's not found out), but a small female married (?) bird gets punished by divorce (?) when she has an affair?  Even assuming that birds have legal spouses,  and go though legal dissolution of marriage for infidelity,   what are you saying would make this situation one of fairness?  That the female would suffer no consequences when she tries to boost her ego through sex?  That the hawk gets divorced for his indiscretions?  That the small bird gets as strong as the hawk?

And how on earth does my question about whether or not your text has anything to do with fairness show rancor?  

Are you serious? you don't know the meaning of: High respect has filled all the sky. It means all the other birds feared it and respected it. Why do you behave in such a way? The other poets are asking me to ask to block you. Why don't you be sensible. I get a lot of LIKES from renowned poets. All my page is covered with Their LIKES. Please be reasonable, and try to have for once A GOOD HEART AND A CLEAR CONSCIENCE.

What do you mean by "renowned"?  And which of the very limited number of people who give you likes are renowned poets?

And as I've shown you before,  my page is covered with likes as well. So are you saying that those who give me likes have no clue as to what is good and what isn't when it comes to poetry?

P.S.

Let's see your list of likes.  Here again is mine.

Poem List
Submissions by Baldwin

A Challenge to J-Z 1 like
A Challenge to J-Z -- and anyone else here who might find it fun to imitate Byron, Yeats, et. al. 1 reading list 1 like
A Ditty for Pharaoh 1 like
A Kind of Sonnent 1 like
A Kind of Sonnet 1 like
A memory from long ago of Lee
A memory of GF 1 reading list 2 likes
A Pilgrim to the Trove of You 1 reading list 1 like
A poem for you 2 likes
A Riff on Catullus 1 reading list 3 likes
A Steven-esque
absence 2 likes
Absent Friends 1 like
Abused 1 reading list 1 like
Adam 2 likes
After Thomas Hardy's Oxen 2 likes
afterlife? 1 like
Aftermath 1 reading list 3 likes
age
Age 1 like
Aging 1 like
Ah Gabriel 1 reading list 1 like
All This to Have 1 reading list 2 likes
An Emulation of  Thomas Wyatt's "And Leave Not Yet" 2 likes
Angels' Song 1 like
Annunciation 1 like
Another Ditty 1 like
Another for Anne-C
another kiss 1 like
another on J-Z
As He Lay Dying 1 reading list 1 like
Ash Wednesday 1 like
At First Sight
At Glastonbury
At Night 3 likes
Augustine's Mistake 1 like
awe 1 like
Ballerina 1 reading list 1 like
Be Gone!
Because of you 1 reading list 2 likes
Before 1 like
Belly Dancer
Chastity
Christmas Tide
Come Dance With Me 1 like
Culprit Moon 1 like
Damn you, Woman 1 like
distance
Dity
Do Not Come With Me 1 like
Does death deprive? 1 reading list 1 like
Does God Care for Ghosts?
Dreams
Dreams 1 like
Esker's Crest 1 reading list 3 likes
explorer 1 like
eyes 1 like
Farmer and his gun
Fire eyes
Fog 2 reading lists 2 likes
For Anne-C
For J-Z 1 reading list 1 like
For Summer 3 likes
Give Me Now your Kiss 1 like
God
God Help Me Now 1 like
God is not Good: Bad Theology
God's Loaves
Golgatha
Golgatha 3 likes
Grey Wing 1 reading list 4 likes
Growing Old
Ha Satan 1 like
her crotch 1 like
Her Hands
Her laugh 2 likes
Here 2 likes
Here's What Comes from Remembering the Past
Hey Joseph-Z 1 like
him? 1 like
How Can I Make you Believe? 2 likes
How Many Times?
How will you know 1 reading list 3 likes
I am religious 3 likes
I Cannot Understand This Thing Called Soul
I remember 1 reading list 3 likes
I Shall Place My Palms 2 likes
I shall pretend 4 likes
I want your mouth 1 reading list 3 likes
I wonder 1 reading list 3 likes
I'll Not be Obedient to Life 1 reading list 1 like
If I could be there 3 reading lists 4 likes
If I should craft new lullabies for you 1 reading list 1 like
If You Wish It So
In the Brightest of My Rooms 1 like
Incarnation 1 like
Indolence 1 like
J-Z and his "If"
Jealousy 1 like
Jesus' love
Joseph's claims
Joseph's criterion for what makes a poem "great"
Joseph's Response 2 likes
kiss 2 likes
Kiss 2 likes
Kiss Me Now 2 likes
La Belle Dame sans Merci
Lazarus 1 like
light 1 reading list 2 likes
little bastard 1 like
Loneliness is a Fish 1 like
Longing 2 reading lists 5 likes
Mary 1 like
Memorial Day 1 like
Mitigation
Mother Mary 1 like
Moths to Flame 1 reading list 2 likes
My Heart and Song 1 like
My hope for J-Z
My pissed off Muse 4 likes
My Ram 1 like
night 2 likes
No Ambiguity 1 reading list 1 like
No Jewels 2 likes
Nostalgia 1 like
Not Soon Enough
not voiced
November's Trees 1 like
Oedipus at Thebes
Old Simeon 1 like
On J-Z's "From Hands to Hands"
One God?
pale moon 1 like
Parts and Wholes 1 like
poetical idea 2 likes
Pope's Complaint
Quit Telling Me that Heaven Is My Home 1 like
Ravages
Regret 5 likes
remember, body
Restraint 2 likes
Sheryl 1 like
Sin? 5 likes
Song 1 reading list 3 likes
stages 2 likes
Sunrise Disturbed 1 reading list 3 likes
surprised 1 reading list 3 likes
That isn't proof 1 reading list 2 likes
The Arrogance and Stupidity of Patriarchy 1 like
The Claim 1 like
The fallacy known as poisoning the well
The Intent of Mary's Words to Me 1 reading list 2 likes
the narcissist J-Z!
the power 2 likes
the power of the vagina 1 reading list 1 like
The Sway of J-Z's Ego 2 reading lists 2 likes
The Traditions of the Best English Poets
The Usefulness of  Attachment to Jesus 1 reading list 1 like
the wages of age
There is Within Your Eyes 1 reading list 3 likes
Time the Devourer 1 like
Touch 2 likes
Towards Cadbury 1 reading list 3 likes
truth 1 like
want 1 reading list 2 likes
Wasting Time Writing Complaining "Poetry" 1 like
We Toured the Autumned  Cotswold Lanes 1 like
What I didn't do
What I Want 2 likes
What Is It That You Want? 1 reading list 1 like
What Shall I Do? 1 reading list 1 like
what to pray 2 likes
What Would Be Done?
White Christmas?
Whose Bodies
Why Remorse? 1 like
Within Your Eyes 1 reading list 1 like
worship 1 reading list 2 likes
Wrinkles 2 likes
Yeas Ago 1 like
Yesterday
You asked 1 reading list 2 likes
You Thief! 1 like
your desire 1 reading list 1 like
Your Eyes 1 reading list 1 like
Your Fingers 2 likes
Your Master 1 reading list 2 likes
Your Name 2 reading lists 2 likes
Your Touch 2 reading lists 2 likes
Your Words 1 reading list 2 likes

"Are you serious? you don't know the meaning of: High respect has filled all the sky. It means all the other birds feared it and respected it. "

Seriously?  ALL other birds?  

Hawks are afraid of eagles, owls and crows. Eagles prey on hawks as food, they are the number one predator of hawks. Crows and owls pick on and attack hawks for sport.

https://crittercleanout.com/what-are-hawks-afraid-of/

So once again, you do not know what you are talking about.

"All my page is covered with Their [sic] LIKES".

Please back up this claim.  Show me your page.  

"The other poets are asking me to ask to block you"

Exactly how many "poets"  are asking you to request (whom?) that I be blocked?

"She thought that those who were not strong.
Should keep away from what was wrong."

The implication of this statement is that she also thought that those who are strong don't have any moral obligation or compelling reason to keep away from what is wrong.  They have leave to do what is wrong anytime they wish to do so.

What do you mean by all that? Don't you find that all your poems and writings in this group depend on Joseph Zenieh. If J Z is not worthwhile, why do you give him such importance and waste this long time on him?

"Don't you find that all your poems and writings in this group depend on Joseph Zenieh. "  
 
All???  Seriously.  ALL??  Besides your thinking far too highly of your self, you must be joking.  Of the some 190 pieces I've submitted here,  are you seriously claiming that there is not a single one that " doesn't  "depend" on you?  Does my recent piece  on Oedipus depend on you?  Does my piece entitled  Dreams do so?  
   
How about these listed here?  Which if any of them "depends on you?  My money is on "few to none".  And if so,  you are an ego filled prevaricator.   And if you wish to readers here that you are not,  you'll point out the ones that do.  The excuse that you have no time to do so will not be regarded as acceptable.  Your claims are either true or they are not.  And if you do not show that they are indeed true,  you show yourself to be a liar.  
   
 A Ditty for Pharaoh    
 A Kind of Sonnent    
 A Kind of Sonnet    
 A memory from long ago of Lee  
 A memory of GF    
 A Pilgrim to the Trove of You    
 A poem for you    
 A Riff on Catullus    
 A Steven-esque  
 absence    
 Absent Friends    
 Abused    
 Adam    
 After Thomas Hardy's Oxen    
 Aftermath    
 age  
 Age    
 Aging    
 Ah Gabriel    
 All This to Have    
 An Emulation of  Thomas Wyatt's "And Leave Not Yet"    
 Angels' Song    
 Annunciation    
 Another Ditty    
 Another for Anne-C  
 another kiss    
 As He Lay Dying    
 Ash Wednesday    
 At First Sight  
 At Glastonbury  
 At Night    
 Augustine's Mistake    
 awe    
 Ballerina    
 Be Gone!  
 Because of you    
 Before    
 Belly Dancer  
 Chastity  
 Christmas Tide  
 Come Dance With Me    
 Culprit Moon    
 Damn you, Woman    
 distance  
 Dity  
 Do Not Come With Me    
 Dreams  
 Dreams    
 Esker's Crest    
 explorer    
 eyes    
 Fire eyes  
 Fog    
 For Anne-C  
 For Summer    
 Give Me Now your Kiss    
God Help Me Now    
 Grey Wing    
 Growing Old  
 Ha Satan    
 Her Hands  
 Her laugh    
 Here    
 Here's What Comes from Remembering the Past  
 How Can I Make you Believe?    
 How Many Times?  
 How will you know    
 I remember    
 I Shall Place My Palms    
 I shall pretend  
 I want your mouth    
 I wonder    
 If I could be there  
 If I should craft new lullabies for you    
 If You Wish It So  
 In the Brightest of My Rooms    
 Incarnation    
 Indolence    
 Joseph's Response    
 kiss    
 Kiss    
 Kiss Me Now    
 La Belle Dame sans Merci  
 Lazarus    
 light    
 little bastard    
 Loneliness is a Fish    
 Longing  
 Mary    
 Memorial Day    
 Mitigation  
 Mother Mary    
 Moths to Flame    
 My pissed off Muse 4 likes  
 My Ram    
 night    
 No Jewels    
 Nostalgia    
 Not Soon Enough  
 not voiced  
 November's Trees    
 Oedipus at Thebes  
 One God?  
 pale moon    
 Parts and Wholes    
 poetical idea    
 Pope's Complaint  
 Ravages  
 Regret  
 remember, body  
 Restraint    
 Sheryl    
 Sin? Song    
 stages    
 Sunrise Disturbed    
 surprised    
 That isn't proof    
 The Arrogance and Stupidity of Patriarchy    
 the narcissist J-Z!  
 the power    
 the wages of age  
 There is Within Your Eyes    
 Time the Devourer    
 Touch    
 Towards Cadbury    
 truth    
 want    
 We Toured the Autumned  Cotswold Lanes    
 What I didn't do  
 What I Want    
 What Is It That You Want?    
 What Shall I Do?    
 what to pray    
 What Would Be Done?  
 White Christmas?  
 Whose Bodies  
 Why Remorse?    
 Within Your Eyes    
 worship    
 Wrinkles    
 Yeas Ago    
 Yesterday  
 You asked    
 You Thief!    
 your desire    
 Your Eyes    
 Your Fingers    
 Your Master    
 Your Name    
 Your Touch    
 Your Words    
 

How many poems have l written about you and how many poems have you written about me? And as you used the word liar first, please tell the truth and don't be a liar. I said so because l know you are polite and don't use absurd words, or not very polite ones.

How does your implied claim that you have not written as many poems  about me as I have written that (1)  take up a topic that you have written about or  (2) that deal with  both the way you write and your claims to be following the style of poets from "the golden age" demonstrate the truth of your egotistic claim that EVERYTHING I've submitted to DUP "depends" on you?  Is your claim true?  If not, then you have lied.

Do you consider your writing here from"the mid of the second line up to the golden age" clear", and, "High respect", which l used in the last poem is not? How strange!

And here I thought that the issue to be dealt with was not whether I consider a few of my lines in my last posting clear but (1) whether your claim that EVERY submission I've posted to DUP depend on things you've posted  and (2)  whether you are a liar for saying so.

Is your claim true or not?

I take it from the way you have dodged speaking to that issue   -- indeed,  from the fact that  you have changed the topic and run away from the one at hand -- is an admission on your part that the evidence I produced  quite clearly shows  your claim for what it is:  a narcissistic lie.

Do you consider your writing here from"the mid [sic middle?] of the second line up to the golden age" clear", and, "High respect", which l used in the last poem is not?

Yes, it is not clear.  The syntactical implication of your phrase is that "high respect (better "high regard") is something that the hawk has for himself and not something that other birds have for him.

No, "High regard" has no meaning there. It should be"High respect". You don't understand English well, in addition to your grammar misunderstanding. I was surprised at your grammar misunderstanding on several occasions.  Despite all that, you want to teach others. How strange, defective and you want to be a teacher!

So is your claim that EVERY submission I've posted to DUP depends on things you've posted  true or not?

"No, "High regard" has no meaning there. It should be"High [sic]  respect". You don't understand English well,"  
 
I understand it well enough to know that "whose high respect" is reflexive and refers to the respect that the hawk has for himself, not the respect others have for the hawk.    You'd need to say "the high respect for him that others have now fills the sky" to actually say what you think you have said.

So is your claim that EVERY submission I've posted to DUP depends on things you've posted  true or not?

How do you bring the reflexive meaning to it? Are you speaking seriously, or are you joking?

So is your claim that EVERY submission I've posted to DUP depends on things you've posted  true or not?

Why didn't you answer my last question about the reflexive meaning?

Why didn't YOU answer my question about whether your claim  about  ALL  of my submissions to DUP being dependent upon you is true -- a question that I asked well before you asked about "the reflexive meaning" as were these"  
 
What is it that I don't understand?  That a male hawk gets to make love whenever he wants without consequence (so long as he's not found out), but a small female married (?) bird gets punished by divorce (?) when she has an affair?  Even assuming that birds have legal spouses,  and go though legal dissolution of marriage for infidelity,   what are you saying would make this situation one of fairness?  That the female would suffer no consequences when she tries to boost her ego through sex?  That the hawk gets divorced for his indiscretions?  That the small bird gets as strong as the hawk?  
 
And how on earth does my question about whether or not your text has anything to do with fairness show rancor?  

What do you mean by "renowned"?  And which of the very limited number of people who give you likes are renowned poets?

And as I've shown you before,  my page is covered with likes as well. So are you saying that those who give me likes have no clue as to what is good and what isn't when it comes to poetry?

Why didn't you answer my question about whether your claim  about  ALL  of my submissions to DUP being dependent upon you is true -- a question that I asked well before you asked about "the reflexive meaning"?

"Why didn't you answer my last question about "the reflexive meaning?""    
   
For the reason that you often give for not answering questions I ask you to respond directly to   -- it was not in my eyes worth answering.    
    
Besides that,  you still have questions of mine that I asked you before you posed the question above that you have yet to answer.  Why should I extend the courtesy to you of answering your question when you won't extend the same courtesy to me?

Please tell me how and why what I have written below is  not something  on your stated (but unfulfilled)  topic that's an improvement on your piece, however much it's derived from it  if, given your expert knowledge of the difference between good an bad poetry, you think it isn't.    

And remember  -- especially if  the reason you might think that my piece is nowhere  near as good as yours is that it is something "dependent"  on your piece --  what T.S. Eliot said about how **derivation**  does not necessarily justify the conclusion that a derived piece has to be inferior to what its source or inspiration is.    
    
“Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different.”    
  
― T.S. Eliot, The Sacred Wood    
   
A little bird looked at a hawk    
whose high respect that other birds    
(except for eagles , owls,  and crows)    
endowed him with,  
(though god knows why)    
filled all  the reaches of the sky    
and said,    
"Compared with him,    
his speed, his strength,    
the heights to which he flies,    
I wonder who and what am I?    
I'm puny and not strong.    
   
And when he has the urge    
to mate with others than his wife,    
he is not charged by anyone,
as he should be ,    
with doing wrong.    
   
Perhaps the secret is to break    
one's marriage vows    
clandestinely    
and mate not just for pleasure    
but  for ego's sake    
within    
the hiding foliage of a distant tree    
not in the open air.    
   
But still, the fact  he gets away    
with things like this    
and I do not,    
just isn't fair."