WILL I JOIN HANDS WITH SIMEON?

Very joyful and compelling.

Very dear Lozzamus,
Thank you very much for your most appreciated words.

" When Simeon held the glorious Child,
He looked at Him and thanked the Lord.
He said,"My God, You have fulfilled
Your promise of my jubilee.""

Except he didn't.

Luke 2: 25-35

Now there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon;[d] this man was righteous and devout, looking forward to the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit rested on him. 26 It had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see death before he had seen the Lord’s Messiah.[e] 27 Guided by the Spirit, Simeon[f] came into the temple; and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him what was customary under the law, 28 Simeon[g] took him in his arms and praised God, saying,

29 “Master, now you are dismissing your servant[h] in peace,
   according to your word;
30 for my eyes have seen your salvation,
31     which you have prepared in the presence of all peoples,
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles
   and for glory to your people Israel.”

33 And the child’s father and mother were amazed at what was being said about him. 34 Then Simeon[i] blessed them and said to his mother Mary, “This child is destined for the falling and the rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be opposed 35 so that the inner thoughts of many will be revealed—and a sword will pierce your own soul too.”

I had read everything you have mentioned before l wrote my poem. I agree with you, and this is what l wrote in the poem. Thank you very much, Baldwin, for your comment.

So you were well aware that Simeon **never said what you say he said**  but you chose to misrepresent Scripture and put words in his mouth anyway?  Or are you saying that what I quoted of your piece is what your beloved priest said Simeon said?  If so, your priest does not know scripture very well and should not be trusted when he tells you what it says.

Would you please tell me about the disagreement between my poem and the Holy Scripture, Baldwin?

Where in Luke (which is the only place that Simeon appears) does Simeon say:

,"My God, You have fulfilled
Your promise of my jubilee.""

and where does Luke specifically say that Simeon was "charmed"?

Moreover, why Simeon was full of praise was that he had lived long enough to see the beginning of the salvation in history of his nation  **Israel** from oppressors,  not  someone who was going to save his soul for some otherworldly abode.

Dear Baldwin,
It is not as you mention it, Baldwin. It is first for himself. He saw the Saviour of all the people, and his own Saviour among them, exactly as l have meant it. The proof that he meant it for himself is that he said,"...a light for revelation to the Gentiles [first], and for the glory of Your people Israel." You know the Israelites didn't like the Gentiles, so they don't mention them at all or at least not first.

Where in Luke  is Simeon, whom Luke notes is waiting for **the consolation of Israel**, not assurance that he is going to heaven, reported as explicitly saying

"My God, You have fulfilled
Your promise of my jubilee.""

and where does Luke specifically say that Simeon was "charmed"?

Simeon eagerness to see the Lord, Jesus Christ is enough for him to be charmed after having been waiting for such a long time, and to have salvation, in addition to being a good man.

Does Luke **specifically** say this, or is it an inference that you are making?

And why do you keep avoiding this question?   Where in Luke  is Simeon --  whom Luke notes is waiting for **the consolation of Israel**, NOT his personal salvation or any assurance that he is going to heaven -- reported as explicitly saying

"My God, You have fulfilled
Your promise of my jubilee.""

In Luke the person who had been waiting for such a long time to see the Saviour, for sure, he would go to heaven. Don't you know that the spirit revives, and the letter kills.

What I know is not only that you have misquoted Paul (2 Cor. 3:6), but that once again you have avoided answering my question about whether or not Luke (or any Gospel writer for that matter) reports Simeon to have said

"My God, You have fulfilled
Your promise of my jubilee."

It appears that the reason for your not doing so is that it you do not want to admit that Luke (or any Gospel author) does NOT DO SO and that you were wrong in saying that Luke (or any Gospel author) did.

I gave you my answers, but you didn't accept them. What can l do? The New Testament can't be understood literally. You have to understand its  general spirit.

No you have NOT given an answer to my question of whether the words you put on Simeon's lips are what Luke explicitly records Simeon as saying when he sees the person he believes will bring consolation to oppressed Israel.   And my question has NOTHING TO DO with how the New Testament **is to be understood.**  It's what is and is not written there.  
 
And why should anyone accept your claims as to how Lk. 2:28-32  is to be "understood", let alone what its "general spirit" is.  Do you read Koine Greek?  Have you grounded yourself in a  thorough study of the New Testament world?   Do you hold a degree in New Testament studies?  What are your credentials in that field that will let me  know that what you say about how any NT writing or passage within it is to be understood  (or what it really intends to convey) is worth considering?  
   
Cue the focus on this issue rather than on what the actual words were that Luke presented Simeon as saying in Lk.2:28-35.