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How does sovereignty not determine a country's right to be a part of an organization they desire to be a part of? If a country is restricted from membership, growth, or support in any way, that is not sovereignty. That's oppression.
It's not ME that wants the war to continue, it's Ukraine. Ukraine desires absolute sovereignty from under Russia's thumb. And the United Kingdom, as well as many countries around the world, support that. When one country has the right to dictate what another country can or cannot do - who they can or cannot support, what they can or cannot join - then the latter country is not free: it's beholding to the former.
I, nor anyone in this thread, is supporting war or the killing of millions - we are supporting a [b]country's desire and right for absolute sovereignty. The U.S., nor any other country, should have the right to dictate what Ukraine can and cannot do[/b]. "
You are supporting a US proxy war
The country was free before the outside interference. It will be free again when the circus moves on to another region
NATO is not an option because obvious reasons. it has nothing to do with Sovereignty of self determination. you said you understood that some pages back
I don't recall any legitimate Ukrainian government advocating a NATO membership
It is when a government of a country is compromised I loses Sovereignty. Regime change would do that
How does sovereignty not determine a country's right to be a part of an organization they desire to be a part of? If a country is restricted from membership, growth, or support in any way, that is not sovereignty. That's oppression.
It's not ME that wants the war to continue, it's Ukraine. Ukraine desires absolute sovereignty from under Russia's thumb. And the United Kingdom, as well as many countries around the world, support that. When one country has the right to dictate what another country can or cannot do - who they can or cannot support, what they can or cannot join - then the latter country is not free: it's beholding to the former.
I, nor anyone in this thread, is supporting war or the killing of millions - we are supporting a [b]country's desire and right for absolute sovereignty. The U.S., nor any other country, should have the right to dictate what Ukraine can and cannot do[/b]. "
You are supporting a US proxy war
The country was free before the outside interference. It will be free again when the circus moves on to another region
NATO is not an option because obvious reasons. it has nothing to do with Sovereignty of self determination. you said you understood that some pages back
I don't recall any legitimate Ukrainian government advocating a NATO membership
It is when a government of a country is compromised I loses Sovereignty. Regime change would do that
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The people of the United Kingdom don't support war in Ukraine.
The people of the UK want the illegal immigrants that cross the channel daily removed.
The people of the UK want an end to the grooming rape gangs.
The people of the UK want their culture and heritage to remain as such and not watered down to the point of non existence.
The clowns in power dance their dance , the show rolls on. Its the greatest show on earth, theatre for the masses
The people of the UK want the illegal immigrants that cross the channel daily removed.
The people of the UK want an end to the grooming rape gangs.
The people of the UK want their culture and heritage to remain as such and not watered down to the point of non existence.
The clowns in power dance their dance , the show rolls on. Its the greatest show on earth, theatre for the masses
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lepperochan said:
You are supporting a US proxy war
In that video that you posted, he specifically said that Ukraine did what the U.S. wanted, yes? Do you still feel that the Ukraine is doing what the U.S. wants now? Or are they acting independently based on what they, as a country wants?
The country was free before the outside interference. It will be free again when the circus moves on to another region
But it wasn't. There were conditions to that freedom which included the prohibition of joining NATO. Ukraine was only free within existing boundaries.
NATO is not an option because obvious reasons. it has nothing to do with Sovereignty of self determination. you said you understood that some pages back
I don't recall any legitimate Ukrainian government advocating a NATO membership
It is when a government of a country is compromised I loses Sovereignty. Regime change would do that
I didn't say NATO determined a country's sovereignty. Nor does its membership. I said Ukraine should have the right to join NATO or any other organization without dictation from another country, just like the U.S., United Kingdom, and others do. It's freedom of choice that determines sovereignty. Ukraine didn't have that.
I don't know what you mean by legitimate. Are you inferring Zelensky's presidency or Ukraine's current government isn't legitimate?
You are supporting a US proxy war
In that video that you posted, he specifically said that Ukraine did what the U.S. wanted, yes? Do you still feel that the Ukraine is doing what the U.S. wants now? Or are they acting independently based on what they, as a country wants?
The country was free before the outside interference. It will be free again when the circus moves on to another region
But it wasn't. There were conditions to that freedom which included the prohibition of joining NATO. Ukraine was only free within existing boundaries.
NATO is not an option because obvious reasons. it has nothing to do with Sovereignty of self determination. you said you understood that some pages back
I don't recall any legitimate Ukrainian government advocating a NATO membership
It is when a government of a country is compromised I loses Sovereignty. Regime change would do that
I didn't say NATO determined a country's sovereignty. Nor does its membership. I said Ukraine should have the right to join NATO or any other organization without dictation from another country, just like the U.S., United Kingdom, and others do. It's freedom of choice that determines sovereignty. Ukraine didn't have that.
I don't know what you mean by legitimate. Are you inferring Zelensky's presidency or Ukraine's current government isn't legitimate?
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It's not really about Ukraine having 'the right' to join NATO.. Cuba had the right to have Russian missiles on its sovereign land, but it was never going to happen.and probably rightly so. Cuba is still a sovereign nation
As i understand it, he present Ukrainian president was very much an American-made. it would appear the present American administration has washed its hands on him
I'm not sure there's much of an appetite for war left in Ukraine.teens are being conscripted, those who don't show up are being dragged from the house and clutches of their hysterical mothers
Zelinzky is at an all time low in terms of his people's confidence. It wouldn't surprise me if he is suicided soon
As i understand it, he present Ukrainian president was very much an American-made. it would appear the present American administration has washed its hands on him
I'm not sure there's much of an appetite for war left in Ukraine.teens are being conscripted, those who don't show up are being dragged from the house and clutches of their hysterical mothers
Zelinzky is at an all time low in terms of his people's confidence. It wouldn't surprise me if he is suicided soon
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You must admit that NATO (or any organizational membership) differs greatly from Russian missiles on sovereign land. I believe in the concept (note the word) of NATO: a platform for Norh Atlantic world leaders to come together to discuss geopolitical issues of safety and concern as allies for the countries they represent. There needs to be a central place where leaders can do this to avert negative consequences that may spread. If we've learned anything from WWII and Hitler's regime, it's that.
Forbes posted a recent survey 3 days ago that found that 52% had a strong (30%) or somewhat (22%) favorable opinion of Zelensky while 31% had an unfavorable one. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2025/03/03/how-popular-is-zelensky-in-ukraine-what-the-polls-show/
Trump's average is 48%/48% according to Newsweek, which combined all the latest polls to derive at the average. They're pretty bilateral in regard to information. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-2040584
I don't know about Zelensky being "American-made", I haven't read anything substantial on that.
Forbes posted a recent survey 3 days ago that found that 52% had a strong (30%) or somewhat (22%) favorable opinion of Zelensky while 31% had an unfavorable one. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2025/03/03/how-popular-is-zelensky-in-ukraine-what-the-polls-show/
Trump's average is 48%/48% according to Newsweek, which combined all the latest polls to derive at the average. They're pretty bilateral in regard to information. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-polls-2040584
I don't know about Zelensky being "American-made", I haven't read anything substantial on that.
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Posted this morning @ 9:41 AM ^
So confused. Is this the same bully who *literally* stopped classified intelligence to Ukraine officials 2 days ago, who wants out of NATO, who praised Putin as a "genius," and *froze* military aid to Ukraine to pressure them for political dirt?
Russia isn’t “pounding” Ukraine because they’re scared of the U.S.— they’re emboldened because intelligence and support was cut off from Ukraine and Trump spent years cozying up to the Kremlin, undermining allies, and treating Ukraine like a bargaining chip. Now he's talking sanctions.
One thing is for certain, two for sure. the U.S. will claim the title peacemaker, but it will be in name only. Those who deliberately initiate conflicts with the intention of resolving them are often seen as conflict facilitators or problem-solvers, aiming to address underlying issues and find mutually acceptable solutions to make themselves appear the hero.
I call bullshit.
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Hey women! Your life doesn't mean shit. You're just a baby-making machine.
Trump Administration Drops High-Profile Emergency Abortion Case, Leaving Advocates ‘Devastated’
The Trump Administration dropped a high-profile lawsuit over the right to emergency abortions in Idaho on March 5—a stark reversal from the Biden Administration, and a move that reproductive rights advocates, providers, patients, and legislators have called “devastating” and “troubling.”
“Unfortunately, it was not a surprise at all. We have been nervous but ready for this decision to come down. I think the Trump Administration has abandoned pregnant women in medical crises by abandoning [this case],” says Idaho State Sen. Melissa Wintrow, a Democrat. “They dropped that case, which was only holding onto the sliver of protection in a crisis, and they can’t even allow that. Think about that: they can’t even allow a pregnant woman to go to the emergency room, and if her life and health are in jeopardy, to get medical treatment that could save it or preserve her health. That speaks volumes.”
https://time.com/7265757/trump-lawsuit-abortion-idaho-ban-emergencies-activists-providers-respond/
As God is my witness, if I were young, I would refuse to get married or have children.
Trump Administration Drops High-Profile Emergency Abortion Case, Leaving Advocates ‘Devastated’
The Trump Administration dropped a high-profile lawsuit over the right to emergency abortions in Idaho on March 5—a stark reversal from the Biden Administration, and a move that reproductive rights advocates, providers, patients, and legislators have called “devastating” and “troubling.”
“Unfortunately, it was not a surprise at all. We have been nervous but ready for this decision to come down. I think the Trump Administration has abandoned pregnant women in medical crises by abandoning [this case],” says Idaho State Sen. Melissa Wintrow, a Democrat. “They dropped that case, which was only holding onto the sliver of protection in a crisis, and they can’t even allow that. Think about that: they can’t even allow a pregnant woman to go to the emergency room, and if her life and health are in jeopardy, to get medical treatment that could save it or preserve her health. That speaks volumes.”
https://time.com/7265757/trump-lawsuit-abortion-idaho-ban-emergencies-activists-providers-respond/
As God is my witness, if I were young, I would refuse to get married or have children.
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Regarding trumps " get to the table..."
It's another trumpy con and that translates to a trumpy lie.
He can't help himself that much now is obvious and there's orban
saying how NATO would bankrupt itself if they financed Ukraine's
defence well, we will see to orban when the time is right like we
will see to those sniping from behind their neutrality.
It's another trumpy con and that translates to a trumpy lie.
He can't help himself that much now is obvious and there's orban
saying how NATO would bankrupt itself if they financed Ukraine's
defence well, we will see to orban when the time is right like we
will see to those sniping from behind their neutrality.
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Orban is the president of a European country, at risk because of an American ambition. All the leaders of Europe should unite and sanction thr fuck out of US. Country should be ostracised for the death machine it is, for the devastation it has caused both in Europe and globally.
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In case you missed it
www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-six-weeks-in-this-white-house-is-on-its-way-to-being-the-most-corrupt-in-us-history
www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-six-weeks-in-this-white-house-is-on-its-way-to-being-the-most-corrupt-in-us-history
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You cannot be upset with the current pres for wanting peace. You just cant. There is no gray area, there is no argument, he wants peace. so stfu and accept his peace.
Im shocked at some of you, and you know who you are, that you arent up in arms on where all this money went when your peeps were in charge.
where the fuck did trillions go?
Im shocked at some of you, and you know who you are, that you arent up in arms on where all this money went when your peeps were in charge.
where the fuck did trillions go?