Pride Month Thread
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Mmhm.
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Very true, I spend most of my me time with my headphones on, or my head in a book, or both
Thank you Ethan,
Life is hard enough for each and every human being. I don't get why anyone would want to make it any harder for anyone. One act of cruelty, no matter how small, causes a never ending chain reaction.
Very true, I spend most of my me time with my headphones on, or my head in a book, or both
Thank you Ethan,
Life is hard enough for each and every human being. I don't get why anyone would want to make it any harder for anyone. One act of cruelty, no matter how small, causes a never ending chain reaction.
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Northern_Soul said:
I still find it amazing in this day and age that people give a shit about what other people are doing with their lives. I mean holy fuck... there’s worse things in the world to concern yourself with over a dude kissing another dude. 😂
Sounds like sound advice for your Son
Exactly
If society wanted to label me in 2021, I imagine it would be "asexual" but I'm not so easily categorised. The web of me is a lot bigger and more complex.
I still find it amazing in this day and age that people give a shit about what other people are doing with their lives. I mean holy fuck... there’s worse things in the world to concern yourself with over a dude kissing another dude. 😂
Sounds like sound advice for your Son
Exactly
If society wanted to label me in 2021, I imagine it would be "asexual" but I'm not so easily categorised. The web of me is a lot bigger and more complex.
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Magdalena said:
Exactly
If society wanted to label me in 2021, I imagine it would be "asexual" but I'm not so easily categorised. The web of me is a lot bigger and more complex.
Oh absoloutly. No need to box yourself at all.
Pansexual for me is just the sexuality I identify with the most. Doesn’t mean they have me down to a T.
People are complex and everyone is different. I think that’s what I love most about them. 😂
Exactly
If society wanted to label me in 2021, I imagine it would be "asexual" but I'm not so easily categorised. The web of me is a lot bigger and more complex.
Oh absoloutly. No need to box yourself at all.
Pansexual for me is just the sexuality I identify with the most. Doesn’t mean they have me down to a T.
People are complex and everyone is different. I think that’s what I love most about them. 😂
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I discussed this poem on the podcast some time ago, but it’s relevant so I’m gonna leave it here because it’s one of the most moving poems I’ve ever read. The language is brash and even shocking in places, but it only allows us to connect with the writer’s feelings on this subject on a personal level. It was written by Christopher Soto after the pulse gay nightclub shootings in Florida, 2016.
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All the Dead Boys Look Like Me
BY CHRISTOPHER SOTO
Last time I saw myself die is when police killed Jessie Hernandez
A 17 year old brown queer // who was sleeping in their car
Yesterday I saw myself die again // Fifty times I died in Orlando // &
I remember reading // Dr. José Esteban Muñoz before he passed
I was studying at NYU // where he was teaching // where he wrote shit
That made me feel like a queer brown survival was possible // But he didn’t
Survive & now // on the dancefloor // in the restroom // on the news // in my chest
There are another fifty bodies that look like mine // & are
Dead // & I’ve been marching for Black Lives & talking about police brutality
Against Native communities too // for years now // but this morning
I feel it // I really feel it again // How can we imagine ourselves // We being black native
Today // Brown people // How can we imagine ourselves
When All the Dead Boys Look Like Us? // Once I asked my nephew where he wanted
To go to College // What career he would like // as if
The whole world was his for the choosing // Once he answered me without fearing
Tombstones or cages or the hands from a father // The hands of my lover
Yesterday praised my whole body // Made angels from my lips // Ave Maria
Full of Grace // He propped me up like the roof of a cathedral // in NYC
Before we opened the news & read // & read about people who think two brown queers
Can’t build cathedrals // only cemeteries // & each time we kiss
A funeral plot opens // In the bedroom I accept his kiss // & I lose my reflection
I’m tired of writing this poem // but I want to say one last word about
Yesterday // my father called // I heard him cry for only the second time in my life
He sounded like he loved me // it’s something I’m rarely able to hear
& I hope // if anything // his sound is what my body remembers first.
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All the Dead Boys Look Like Me
BY CHRISTOPHER SOTO
Last time I saw myself die is when police killed Jessie Hernandez
A 17 year old brown queer // who was sleeping in their car
Yesterday I saw myself die again // Fifty times I died in Orlando // &
I remember reading // Dr. José Esteban Muñoz before he passed
I was studying at NYU // where he was teaching // where he wrote shit
That made me feel like a queer brown survival was possible // But he didn’t
Survive & now // on the dancefloor // in the restroom // on the news // in my chest
There are another fifty bodies that look like mine // & are
Dead // & I’ve been marching for Black Lives & talking about police brutality
Against Native communities too // for years now // but this morning
I feel it // I really feel it again // How can we imagine ourselves // We being black native
Today // Brown people // How can we imagine ourselves
When All the Dead Boys Look Like Us? // Once I asked my nephew where he wanted
To go to College // What career he would like // as if
The whole world was his for the choosing // Once he answered me without fearing
Tombstones or cages or the hands from a father // The hands of my lover
Yesterday praised my whole body // Made angels from my lips // Ave Maria
Full of Grace // He propped me up like the roof of a cathedral // in NYC
Before we opened the news & read // & read about people who think two brown queers
Can’t build cathedrals // only cemeteries // & each time we kiss
A funeral plot opens // In the bedroom I accept his kiss // & I lose my reflection
I’m tired of writing this poem // but I want to say one last word about
Yesterday // my father called // I heard him cry for only the second time in my life
He sounded like he loved me // it’s something I’m rarely able to hear
& I hope // if anything // his sound is what my body remembers first.
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Was reading about the theatre critic John Simon when I came across this line in an article*, a quote from a different critic, Christopher Hart:
“There’s also quite a lot of men kissing. I can cope with most things on stage — rape, torture, the plays of David Hare — but I still have to lower my gaze at men kissing.”
As the article observes:
“Viewing violence against women is palatable to Hart but a display of affection between two men sends him over the edge.“
* http://gratuitousviolins.blogspot.com/2010/02/homophobia-in-theatre-reviews.html?m=1
“There’s also quite a lot of men kissing. I can cope with most things on stage — rape, torture, the plays of David Hare — but I still have to lower my gaze at men kissing.”
As the article observes:
“Viewing violence against women is palatable to Hart but a display of affection between two men sends him over the edge.“
* http://gratuitousviolins.blogspot.com/2010/02/homophobia-in-theatre-reviews.html?m=1
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As a practical element to this thread, would anyone like to share any resources for LGBT people either struggling with discrimination, coming out, understanding themselves, or just wanting to meet other LGBT people?
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The_Silly_Sibyl said:As a practical element to this thread, would anyone like to share any resources for LGBT people either struggling with discrimination, coming out, understanding themselves, or just wanting to meet other LGBT people?
Great idea 💡 Thanks for putting so much thought into this little space.
I found the stonewall website itself had some really great information on it in regards to dealing with discrimination.
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/lgbt-britain-hate-crime-and-discrimination
Great idea 💡 Thanks for putting so much thought into this little space.
I found the stonewall website itself had some really great information on it in regards to dealing with discrimination.
https://www.stonewall.org.uk/lgbt-britain-hate-crime-and-discrimination
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Stonewall’s a good shout. They’ve unfortunately been getting flack for standing up for trans people lately.
Are you attending any Pride events this year?
Are you attending any Pride events this year?
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Standing up for Trans people. Pfft. I mean how dare they defend trans people’s basic human rights to live freely without discrimination. What a travesty.... 😏
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I was chatting to Ethan about this the other day in that for some reason, we always seem to book our holiday getaway around Pride time and it always gets missed. So I’d definitely like to go properly. Manchester has a huge pride event that I’ve been meaning to get too. It’s all just time and money innit. 😂
With a family member coming out as trans in the last few years I know he’s itching to go too. I’d love to experience that with him and show him some support as well as express myself 💗
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I was chatting to Ethan about this the other day in that for some reason, we always seem to book our holiday getaway around Pride time and it always gets missed. So I’d definitely like to go properly. Manchester has a huge pride event that I’ve been meaning to get too. It’s all just time and money innit. 😂
With a family member coming out as trans in the last few years I know he’s itching to go too. I’d love to experience that with him and show him some support as well as express myself 💗