Is the World Safe for Conversation Anymore?
EdibleWords
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runaway-mindtrain said:
False narrative....
Yes...like for instance the....
"My body my choice" used by pro abortion advocates.
"It is my body, thus my property...I can keep it or kill it. It is my decision"...
The same argument used by slave owners against abolition....
Ooh, unborn slaves! That’s an interesting thought. It’s how I feel about gendercidal abortions, revenge abortions, classist or racist abortions, etc.
Reframe the narrative, claim victory in two easy (usually combined) steps.
runaway-mindtrain
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Ooh, unborn slaves! That’s an interesting thought. It’s how I feel about gendercidal abortions, revenge abortions, classist or racist abortions, etc.
Reframe the narrative, claim victory in two easy (usually combined) steps.
I love how she framed this thread "victimhood" spinning. That is fucking rich after hearing leftist bitch like stuck pigs 8 days a week for four years under President Trump
Those are terrible titles for abortion. They can all be classified under the guise of "rationalized killings"
The same spin on reality given to the Hitler youth for their later murderous campaign...
Ooh, unborn slaves! That’s an interesting thought. It’s how I feel about gendercidal abortions, revenge abortions, classist or racist abortions, etc.
Reframe the narrative, claim victory in two easy (usually combined) steps.
I love how she framed this thread "victimhood" spinning. That is fucking rich after hearing leftist bitch like stuck pigs 8 days a week for four years under President Trump
Those are terrible titles for abortion. They can all be classified under the guise of "rationalized killings"
The same spin on reality given to the Hitler youth for their later murderous campaign...
EdibleWords
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runaway-mindtrain said:[quote-521251-EdibleWords]
Ooh, unborn slaves! That’s an interesting thought. It’s how I feel about gendercidal abortions, revenge abortions, classist or racist abortions, etc.
Reframe the narrative, claim victory in two easy (usually combined) steps.
I love how she framed this thread "victimhood" spinning. That is fucking rich after hearing leftist bitch like stuck pigs 8 days a week for four years under President Trump
Those are terrible titles for abortion. They can all be classified under the guise of "rationalized killings"
The same spin on reality given to the Hitler youth for their later murderous campaign...
It’s all about un-personing people because they are silent. No matter the reason they do it, it’s still wrong.
Ooh, unborn slaves! That’s an interesting thought. It’s how I feel about gendercidal abortions, revenge abortions, classist or racist abortions, etc.
Reframe the narrative, claim victory in two easy (usually combined) steps.
I love how she framed this thread "victimhood" spinning. That is fucking rich after hearing leftist bitch like stuck pigs 8 days a week for four years under President Trump
Those are terrible titles for abortion. They can all be classified under the guise of "rationalized killings"
The same spin on reality given to the Hitler youth for their later murderous campaign...
It’s all about un-personing people because they are silent. No matter the reason they do it, it’s still wrong.
Noble_Incubus
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runaway-mindtrain said:
There were no court rulings only dismissals WITHOUT reviewing any evidence.
So if the 2020 election interference story is a lie..then is the four years of democrats stated the 2016 election was stolen, a lie too????
If you are referring to the legal actions by Rudy Giuliani he didn’t put forward any evidence. It was just a dog and pony show to give the appearance that these matters were being debated in the courts when in reality they had no evidence to present. It was a waste of the court’s time and not a single judge fell for it: conservative or liberal. But Giuliani’s ploy was somewhat successful, he played you for a sucker for instance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
As for the 2016 election, of course it wasn’t stolen. Neither was the 2020 election. The lesson here is that it doesn’t matter where a conspiracy theory originates from, left or right is irrelevant, they are still a pack of lies.
There were no court rulings only dismissals WITHOUT reviewing any evidence.
So if the 2020 election interference story is a lie..then is the four years of democrats stated the 2016 election was stolen, a lie too????
If you are referring to the legal actions by Rudy Giuliani he didn’t put forward any evidence. It was just a dog and pony show to give the appearance that these matters were being debated in the courts when in reality they had no evidence to present. It was a waste of the court’s time and not a single judge fell for it: conservative or liberal. But Giuliani’s ploy was somewhat successful, he played you for a sucker for instance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
As for the 2016 election, of course it wasn’t stolen. Neither was the 2020 election. The lesson here is that it doesn’t matter where a conspiracy theory originates from, left or right is irrelevant, they are still a pack of lies.
Valeriyabeyond
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EdibleWords said:
It’s all about un-personing people because they are silent. No matter the reason they do it, it’s still wrong.
Humans can be likened to zebras their stripes meant for camoflague but only amongst the herd
Away from the herd they are vulnerable to attack
If a human stands tall voicing opinion or beliefs they are set apart and vulnerable to attack
The agenda, to tame humanity to create a society of mindless followers receiving subsistence in the form of stimulus checks and unemployment
Food stamps for everyone will be next we will be unable to feed ourselves
Bill Gates one of the largest landowners in America you don't need to wonder why
Hes in bed with Monsanto GMO's and seed sterilization this puts the farmer out of business leaving America with their hand out
Dependent unable to make
decisions about the food they eat
It’s all about un-personing people because they are silent. No matter the reason they do it, it’s still wrong.
Humans can be likened to zebras their stripes meant for camoflague but only amongst the herd
Away from the herd they are vulnerable to attack
If a human stands tall voicing opinion or beliefs they are set apart and vulnerable to attack
The agenda, to tame humanity to create a society of mindless followers receiving subsistence in the form of stimulus checks and unemployment
Food stamps for everyone will be next we will be unable to feed ourselves
Bill Gates one of the largest landowners in America you don't need to wonder why
Hes in bed with Monsanto GMO's and seed sterilization this puts the farmer out of business leaving America with their hand out
Dependent unable to make
decisions about the food they eat
Noble_Incubus
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EdibleWords
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Noble_Incubus said:
If you are referring to the legal actions by Rudy Giuliani he didn’t put forward any evidence. It was just a dog and pony show to give the appearance that these matters were being debated in the courts when in reality they had no evidence to present. It was a waste of the court’s time and not a single judge fell for it: conservative or liberal. But Giuliani’s ploy was somewhat successful, he played you for a sucker for instance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
As for the 2016 election, of course it wasn’t stolen. Neither was the 2020 election. The lesson here is that it doesn’t matter where a conspiracy theory originates from, left or right is irrelevant, they are still a pack of lies.
Rudy’s method hurt Trump, bad.
As for Clinton and Trump I think they were both at least partly right.
Especially this year, even minor races were disrupted.
The media pushed Al Gore as our president in the media for a whole month before they finally acknowledged Bush. That’s election interference. Didn’t work.
It’s a whole separate conversation, but we are talking about issues where Big Tech don’t belong, changing results.
They know now, for example, how they swung the election by concealing the Biden laptop scandal. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Did you know that lying disqualified Biden from running for Prez back in the 80’s?
That he dropped out in another year for a stupid racist statement?
He made more racist gaffes that were buried in mainstream media this year, too.
And made other strange remarks... that would have tanked him beyond repair. The media is bragging about how they saved him, and China is the biggest “winner” of all this year.
If you are referring to the legal actions by Rudy Giuliani he didn’t put forward any evidence. It was just a dog and pony show to give the appearance that these matters were being debated in the courts when in reality they had no evidence to present. It was a waste of the court’s time and not a single judge fell for it: conservative or liberal. But Giuliani’s ploy was somewhat successful, he played you for a sucker for instance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
As for the 2016 election, of course it wasn’t stolen. Neither was the 2020 election. The lesson here is that it doesn’t matter where a conspiracy theory originates from, left or right is irrelevant, they are still a pack of lies.
Rudy’s method hurt Trump, bad.
As for Clinton and Trump I think they were both at least partly right.
Especially this year, even minor races were disrupted.
The media pushed Al Gore as our president in the media for a whole month before they finally acknowledged Bush. That’s election interference. Didn’t work.
It’s a whole separate conversation, but we are talking about issues where Big Tech don’t belong, changing results.
They know now, for example, how they swung the election by concealing the Biden laptop scandal. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Did you know that lying disqualified Biden from running for Prez back in the 80’s?
That he dropped out in another year for a stupid racist statement?
He made more racist gaffes that were buried in mainstream media this year, too.
And made other strange remarks... that would have tanked him beyond repair. The media is bragging about how they saved him, and China is the biggest “winner” of all this year.
EdibleWords
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Noble_Incubus said:
Just curious: hypothetically if you could rewrite the laws how would you handle the abortion issue? Where would miscarriages fit into your new legal framework?
It isn’t murder for hire.
Choice happens before conception. After that drink responsibly and use your body wisely in general.
Just curious: hypothetically if you could rewrite the laws how would you handle the abortion issue? Where would miscarriages fit into your new legal framework?
It isn’t murder for hire.
Choice happens before conception. After that drink responsibly and use your body wisely in general.
Anonymous
EdibleWords said:
It’s a whole separate conversation, but we are talking about issues where Big Tech don’t belong, changing results.
They know now, for example, how they swung the election by concealing the Biden laptop scandal. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Did you know that lying disqualified Biden from running for Prez back in the 80’s?
That he dropped out in another year for a stupid racist statement?
He made more racist gaffes that were buried in mainstream media this year, too.
And made other strange remarks... that would have tanked him beyond repair. The media is bragging about how they saved him, and China is the biggest “winner” of all this year.
Noble, any time you want to be put out of your misery, just say the word. I have a very large hammer. It will be painless and over in a second.
It’s a whole separate conversation, but we are talking about issues where Big Tech don’t belong, changing results.
They know now, for example, how they swung the election by concealing the Biden laptop scandal. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Did you know that lying disqualified Biden from running for Prez back in the 80’s?
That he dropped out in another year for a stupid racist statement?
He made more racist gaffes that were buried in mainstream media this year, too.
And made other strange remarks... that would have tanked him beyond repair. The media is bragging about how they saved him, and China is the biggest “winner” of all this year.
Noble, any time you want to be put out of your misery, just say the word. I have a very large hammer. It will be painless and over in a second.
Noble_Incubus
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EdibleWords said:
Only a bunch of biased tools would try to redefine a crime this way.
It’s called “election interference” and they didn’t legally change laws. As you will soon see, they have violated the constitution. But you won’t see because I show you. (I could be wrong, but I don’t think you have the capacity for that) saying - wait for it - this thing isn’t over at all!
Prepare to see Biden removed from a position he never should have held.
You seem to be confused. The constitution grants sovereignty to the states and the associated powers that come with that, including the ability to change or make new laws. In other words the states changing voting rules is allowed by the constitution.
Fun fact: in the late 1890s when the founders of Australia were drafting the new constitution they were heavily influenced by the US constitution (hence my interest in the US constitution). Much of the same ideas were preserved including the sovereignty of the states. Interestingly they decided not to have a specific bill of rights, instead they decided to include five basic rights within the general wording of the Australian constitution.
Only a bunch of biased tools would try to redefine a crime this way.
It’s called “election interference” and they didn’t legally change laws. As you will soon see, they have violated the constitution. But you won’t see because I show you. (I could be wrong, but I don’t think you have the capacity for that) saying - wait for it - this thing isn’t over at all!
Prepare to see Biden removed from a position he never should have held.
You seem to be confused. The constitution grants sovereignty to the states and the associated powers that come with that, including the ability to change or make new laws. In other words the states changing voting rules is allowed by the constitution.
Fun fact: in the late 1890s when the founders of Australia were drafting the new constitution they were heavily influenced by the US constitution (hence my interest in the US constitution). Much of the same ideas were preserved including the sovereignty of the states. Interestingly they decided not to have a specific bill of rights, instead they decided to include five basic rights within the general wording of the Australian constitution.
Noble_Incubus
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EdibleWords said:
It isn’t murder for hire.
Choice happens before conception. After that drink responsibly and use your body wisely in general.
You dodged the question. You are claiming that abortion is murder. Would you be conducting murder trials every time a mother lost a baby to differentiate between miscarriages and abortions?
It isn’t murder for hire.
Choice happens before conception. After that drink responsibly and use your body wisely in general.
You dodged the question. You are claiming that abortion is murder. Would you be conducting murder trials every time a mother lost a baby to differentiate between miscarriages and abortions?
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Yes the virtual world is free and mostly (sadly though) still consequence free to have a 'conversation' aka exchange of all sorts of ideas, remote, obscure and even alternate facts.
Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.
Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.