Freedom of Speech and Censorship Part 2
And speaking of unity, :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=pHGt733yw3g&feature=emb_logo
A special roundtable edition of Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse podcast featuring an incredible group of Black panelists.
Glenn C. Loury is Merton P. Stoltz Professor of Economics at Brown University. He holds the B.A. in Mathematics (Northwestern) and the Ph.D. in Economics (M.I.T). As an economic theorist he has published widely and lectured throughout the world on his research. He is also among America’s leading critics writing on racial inequality. He has been elected as a Distinguished Fellow of the American Economics Association, as a member of the American Philosophical Society and of the U.S. Council on Foreign relations, and as a Fellow of the Econometric Society and of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
@GlennLoury on Twitter
After spending a year as a Bartley fellow at the Wall Street Journal, Chloé Valdary developed The Theory of Enchantment, an innovative framework for social emotional learning (SEL), character development, and interpersonal growth that uses pop culture as an educational tool in the classroom and beyond. Chloé has trained around the world, including in South Africa, The Netherlands, Germany, and Israel. Her clients have included high school and college students, government agencies, business teams, + many more. She has also lectured in universities across America, including Harvard and Georgetown. Her work has been covered in Psychology Today Magazine and her writings have appeared in the New York Times and the Wall St Journal.
@cvaldary on Twitter
Kmele Foster is a co-founder at Freethink and serves as a lead Producer. His projects have included shows about the intersection of culture and revolution ("Pop Revolution"), fractious political debates (“Crossing the Divide”), and world-changing innovation (“Challengers,” “ Super Human"). Kmele is a regular contributor to various national outlets and co-hosts a syndicated media commentary podcast, The Fifth Column. In addition to his work in media and commentary, Kmele has previously helmed ventures in the technology, communications, and consumer goods industries.
@kmele on Twitter
Thomas Chatterton Williams is the author of Losing My Cool and Self-Portrait in Black and White. He is a contributing writer at the New York Times Magazine, a contributing editor at the American Scholar and a 2019 New America Fellow. His work has appeared in the New Yorker, the London Review of Books, Harper’s and elsewhere, and has been collected in The Best American Essays and The Best American Travel Writing. He has received support from Yaddo, MacDowell and The American Academy in Berlin. He lives in Paris with his wife and children.
@thomaschattwill on Twitter
John Wood Jr. is a national leader for Braver Angels, a former nominee for congress, former Vice-Chairman of the Republican Party of Los Angeles County, musical artist and a noted writer and speaker on subjects including racial and political reconciliation.
@JohnRWoodJr on Twitter
John McWhorter is a contributing writer at The Atlantic. He is a professor of linguistics at Columbia University, hosts the podcast Lexicon Valley, and is the author, most recently, of Words on the Move.
@JohnHMcWhorter on Twitter
Coleman Hughes is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor at City Journal, where his writing focuses on race, public policy, and applied ethics. Coleman’s writing has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, The City Journal and The Spectator. He has appeared on many podcasts, including The Rubin Report, Making Sense with Sam Harris, and The Glenn Show. @coldxman on Twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=pHGt733yw3g&feature=emb_logo
A special roundtable edition of Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse podcast featuring an incredible group of Black panelists.
Glenn C. Loury is Merton P. Stoltz Professor of Economics at Brown University. He holds the B.A. in Mathematics (Northwestern) and the Ph.D. in Economics (M.I.T). As an economic theorist he has published widely and lectured throughout the world on his research. He is also among America’s leading critics writing on racial inequality. He has been elected as a Distinguished Fellow of the American Economics Association, as a member of the American Philosophical Society and of the U.S. Council on Foreign relations, and as a Fellow of the Econometric Society and of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
@GlennLoury on Twitter
After spending a year as a Bartley fellow at the Wall Street Journal, Chloé Valdary developed The Theory of Enchantment, an innovative framework for social emotional learning (SEL), character development, and interpersonal growth that uses pop culture as an educational tool in the classroom and beyond. Chloé has trained around the world, including in South Africa, The Netherlands, Germany, and Israel. Her clients have included high school and college students, government agencies, business teams, + many more. She has also lectured in universities across America, including Harvard and Georgetown. Her work has been covered in Psychology Today Magazine and her writings have appeared in the New York Times and the Wall St Journal.
@cvaldary on Twitter
Kmele Foster is a co-founder at Freethink and serves as a lead Producer. His projects have included shows about the intersection of culture and revolution ("Pop Revolution"), fractious political debates (“Crossing the Divide”), and world-changing innovation (“Challengers,” “ Super Human"). Kmele is a regular contributor to various national outlets and co-hosts a syndicated media commentary podcast, The Fifth Column. In addition to his work in media and commentary, Kmele has previously helmed ventures in the technology, communications, and consumer goods industries.
@kmele on Twitter
Thomas Chatterton Williams is the author of Losing My Cool and Self-Portrait in Black and White. He is a contributing writer at the New York Times Magazine, a contributing editor at the American Scholar and a 2019 New America Fellow. His work has appeared in the New Yorker, the London Review of Books, Harper’s and elsewhere, and has been collected in The Best American Essays and The Best American Travel Writing. He has received support from Yaddo, MacDowell and The American Academy in Berlin. He lives in Paris with his wife and children.
@thomaschattwill on Twitter
John Wood Jr. is a national leader for Braver Angels, a former nominee for congress, former Vice-Chairman of the Republican Party of Los Angeles County, musical artist and a noted writer and speaker on subjects including racial and political reconciliation.
@JohnRWoodJr on Twitter
John McWhorter is a contributing writer at The Atlantic. He is a professor of linguistics at Columbia University, hosts the podcast Lexicon Valley, and is the author, most recently, of Words on the Move.
@JohnHMcWhorter on Twitter
Coleman Hughes is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor at City Journal, where his writing focuses on race, public policy, and applied ethics. Coleman’s writing has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, The City Journal and The Spectator. He has appeared on many podcasts, including The Rubin Report, Making Sense with Sam Harris, and The Glenn Show. @coldxman on Twitter
The Government has admitted that England’s Covid-19 Test and Trace programme has broken a data protection law, according to a letter sent to privacy campaigners.
The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) acknowledged it had failed to carry out a risk assessment on how the system would affect privacy.
It follows the threat of legal action from the Open Rights Group (ORG), which claims that the programme to trace contacts of those infected with Covid-19 has been operating unlawfully since its launch on May 28.
HAHAHA
The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) acknowledged it had failed to carry out a risk assessment on how the system would affect privacy.
It follows the threat of legal action from the Open Rights Group (ORG), which claims that the programme to trace contacts of those infected with Covid-19 has been operating unlawfully since its launch on May 28.
HAHAHA
Why DO People Believe Covid-19 Conspiracies
Maybe it's because
the normal flu virus
went on holiday
leaving no forwarding address
Maybe it's because
their track record
on lieing to us
is pretty good
AND Maybe
it's because
there is no photo's
or videos
from inside these hospitals
that are
overwhelmed
with thousands of people
ill or dead
as we know
these news channels
love to show these things
but they do not
why is that
Strange
And the nail in the coffin
is
WHY is there
no open honest debate
Between the for
and against
with scientists and doctors
who have the same bits of paper
nailed to their wall
so we the people
can use our own logical reasoning
and not be told or spoon fed
that it's true
by those
who's track record
on lieing
is pretty good
Does anyone recall
a few years back
when we were told
we have to wash our hands
every time we touch some thing
and when other doctors
said if you wash your hands
all the time
you can get even more
infections
what did they say
HAHAHA
SAD
Maybe it's because
the normal flu virus
went on holiday
leaving no forwarding address
Maybe it's because
their track record
on lieing to us
is pretty good
AND Maybe
it's because
there is no photo's
or videos
from inside these hospitals
that are
overwhelmed
with thousands of people
ill or dead
as we know
these news channels
love to show these things
but they do not
why is that
Strange
And the nail in the coffin
is
WHY is there
no open honest debate
Between the for
and against
with scientists and doctors
who have the same bits of paper
nailed to their wall
so we the people
can use our own logical reasoning
and not be told or spoon fed
that it's true
by those
who's track record
on lieing
is pretty good
Does anyone recall
a few years back
when we were told
we have to wash our hands
every time we touch some thing
and when other doctors
said if you wash your hands
all the time
you can get even more
infections
what did they say
HAHAHA
SAD
I keep getting these threads mixed up - but I'll leave this as they seem to have interfaced with one another.
JohnnyBlaze said:
The bold texted portion says all we need to know about how invested you are in the subject.
Not to mention blatant disrespect for those who have died, as well as their families who are suffering the loss. Which is why I refuse to read his posts any longer; I step right over them.
And this bears a repost here. It was a response to runaway_mindtrain in the Freedom of Expression thread:
Ahavati said:
Firstly, thank you for being respectful. I appreciate it.
Secondly, I understand what you are saying; however, will point out that yes, we ( and I am referring to the U.S. ) did lock down during the 1918 pandemic: it saved thousands of lives. This is nothing new, except to the younger generation who may never have heard of such. Furthermore, I have seen both sides, the compliant and the rebel take their compliance and/or rebellion too far. While silence may be considered consent; anarchy creates undue damage and suffering.
Lastly, this virus is real. Regardless of whether or not it was lab-created or it's the Mother's way of administering natural selection; it's real. Whether or not the stats have been under or over-reported; it's real. Some who have blatantly disrespected its power are still alive, while others are not. And we are talking younger individuals, not older.
My point ( the portion of my quote you selected to use ) is that while we here in the U.S. were bickering and fighting one another over what we would or would not do, New Zealand was locking down hard and tight. And while we here in the U.S. were still bickering and fighting one another over whose fault lack of action was and what course we should take, New Zealand was levelling the the curve. And while we here in the U.S. are arguing over facemasks and if school is going to start in the fall so we can get on with our lives, New Zealand flattened the curve, and is back in full swing with no restrictions whatsoever.
So, are you going to try to tell me that lockdowns don't work? They don't flatten the curve until eliminated completely? Where is New Zealand's spike in covid-19 because of lockdown destroying their immunities? Right. There wasn't one.
We have two global models. Which worked? Which was smart and which ignorant?
Which participants in this thread ( and Part I - including you and me ) were right about lockdowns? And who was wrong about fighting them because freedoms?
You can rebuild an economy; you can't bring back a human life that was someone's mother, father, sister, brother, and so forth. One need only look to New Zealand for living proof of that fact.
I get what you're saying, and we should all pay close attention to what the powers-that-be are creating in the form of smoke and mirrors ( particularly during this election ); however, we also need to open our eyes and see what has worked, and what has not. And honestly admit that fact despite our ego.
I'll tell you what happened to America and why we're in the position we're in vs enjoying liberty like New Zealand; our leadership ( fueled by 'Muricans terrified of losing a right ) deliberately stalled and filibustered to create the chaos we're experiencing. It's too late to lock down now; nope, that should've been done months ago and we'd be in the clear.
Despite what I believe to be that fact, we are here, now, in this moment. And STILL 'Muricans are bitching about their damn rights. The only poetic justice is that some are truly giving their lives, having disrespected something that had the power to kill them.
Am I happy they died? Of course not. My heart goes out to their families, who probably fueled their rebellion by support. I can't imagine the regret they're feeling had just minimum precautions been taken. This thing might take me yet, but it won't be because I was ignorant and disrespected it. It will be because my days are up, and this is how I chose to exit.
JohnnyBlaze said:
The bold texted portion says all we need to know about how invested you are in the subject.
Not to mention blatant disrespect for those who have died, as well as their families who are suffering the loss. Which is why I refuse to read his posts any longer; I step right over them.
And this bears a repost here. It was a response to runaway_mindtrain in the Freedom of Expression thread:
Ahavati said:
Firstly, thank you for being respectful. I appreciate it.
Secondly, I understand what you are saying; however, will point out that yes, we ( and I am referring to the U.S. ) did lock down during the 1918 pandemic: it saved thousands of lives. This is nothing new, except to the younger generation who may never have heard of such. Furthermore, I have seen both sides, the compliant and the rebel take their compliance and/or rebellion too far. While silence may be considered consent; anarchy creates undue damage and suffering.
Lastly, this virus is real. Regardless of whether or not it was lab-created or it's the Mother's way of administering natural selection; it's real. Whether or not the stats have been under or over-reported; it's real. Some who have blatantly disrespected its power are still alive, while others are not. And we are talking younger individuals, not older.
My point ( the portion of my quote you selected to use ) is that while we here in the U.S. were bickering and fighting one another over what we would or would not do, New Zealand was locking down hard and tight. And while we here in the U.S. were still bickering and fighting one another over whose fault lack of action was and what course we should take, New Zealand was levelling the the curve. And while we here in the U.S. are arguing over facemasks and if school is going to start in the fall so we can get on with our lives, New Zealand flattened the curve, and is back in full swing with no restrictions whatsoever.
So, are you going to try to tell me that lockdowns don't work? They don't flatten the curve until eliminated completely? Where is New Zealand's spike in covid-19 because of lockdown destroying their immunities? Right. There wasn't one.
We have two global models. Which worked? Which was smart and which ignorant?
Which participants in this thread ( and Part I - including you and me ) were right about lockdowns? And who was wrong about fighting them because freedoms?
You can rebuild an economy; you can't bring back a human life that was someone's mother, father, sister, brother, and so forth. One need only look to New Zealand for living proof of that fact.
I get what you're saying, and we should all pay close attention to what the powers-that-be are creating in the form of smoke and mirrors ( particularly during this election ); however, we also need to open our eyes and see what has worked, and what has not. And honestly admit that fact despite our ego.
I'll tell you what happened to America and why we're in the position we're in vs enjoying liberty like New Zealand; our leadership ( fueled by 'Muricans terrified of losing a right ) deliberately stalled and filibustered to create the chaos we're experiencing. It's too late to lock down now; nope, that should've been done months ago and we'd be in the clear.
Despite what I believe to be that fact, we are here, now, in this moment. And STILL 'Muricans are bitching about their damn rights. The only poetic justice is that some are truly giving their lives, having disrespected something that had the power to kill them.
Am I happy they died? Of course not. My heart goes out to their families, who probably fueled their rebellion by support. I can't imagine the regret they're feeling had just minimum precautions been taken. This thing might take me yet, but it won't be because I was ignorant and disrespected it. It will be because my days are up, and this is how I chose to exit.
Anonymous
Read a swear word from Ahavati. Something needs to be done about it.
I dont appreciate seeing “bollocks” in a sentence.
Only kidding. Makes me laugh when I see the odd word thrown in.
I dont appreciate seeing “bollocks” in a sentence.
Only kidding. Makes me laugh when I see the odd word thrown in.
Anonymous
It’s very rare to see you using swear words, so when you do, it cracks me up lol
The video seemed to be condensed and yes when I first watched i thought its leaning heavily to one side, despite the fact that all his accusations are a public record, and its been happening all over america, i just wish whoever edited the video would've left it whole in its entirety rather than making it to be pointing the finger altogether to the left party.
Now tomorrow I am going to beach with my cousin's wife, about an hour outside of the city where its not all that heavily populated..we'll see how it goes lol
And reading some of your governor's guidlelines, seems like he has a handle of his state and I hope things work out cause the country needs to have a prototype to emulate cause no one seems to know what the hell to do.
Ahavati said:
Facemask requirements here:
https://abc11.com/nc-face-mask-order-masks-north-carolina-required/6270849/
Now, that being said, I sympathize with states that seem to have governors ( Dem or Rep ) who have assumed a monarchy-type lead, but our governor certainly hasn't. On the contrary, I have admired his handling of this situation immensely.
Had we as a country clamped down as tightly as New Zealand instead of arguing over our freedoms and rights, we may have been back to regularly scheduled programming just as New Zealand is now.
But, we'll never know will we? Because 'Murica!
https://youtu.be/EJkn7UXGbug
Portland going crazy still ;
Police fail to take down member of Naval Academy
https://youtu.be/l1mTQXfixmQ
Portland going crazy still ;
Police fail to take down member of Naval Academy
https://youtu.be/l1mTQXfixmQ
@ Cabcool
I enjoy your posts, they're very enlightening.
I dont think the answer lies in looking back, certainly take lessons. but I dont think we should dwell on it so much (in my opinion). I think its wasting time and playing into the game which is occurring
[ there's some things which have struck me from what you've been posting. you live in Jamacia, it's probably one of the most dangerous country for foreign people to go. not to mention the gang warfare, the car-jackins, and murder, addiction and abject poverty
you strike me as well educated, third level at least. would it be fair to say you're privileged ? ]
personally I think BLM, is a hindrance to a solution. only because the sheer divisiveness of it. I think if everyone from all walks, creeds, class, joined under the banner of 'no justice, no peace' or any other banner which was skinless it would have garnered more change within the system
I think, and I could be wrong, the protests will squeeze some superficial changes out of the system. but nothing of any serious substance. then itll fizzle out
I think, even though theres thousands involved in the protests, it's just not enough. it never will be until people protest as/ for people
very sorry for the massive undersight. hope I caused no offence in your time of mourning.
I enjoy your posts, they're very enlightening.
I dont think the answer lies in looking back, certainly take lessons. but I dont think we should dwell on it so much (in my opinion). I think its wasting time and playing into the game which is occurring
[ there's some things which have struck me from what you've been posting. you live in Jamacia, it's probably one of the most dangerous country for foreign people to go. not to mention the gang warfare, the car-jackins, and murder, addiction and abject poverty
you strike me as well educated, third level at least. would it be fair to say you're privileged ? ]
personally I think BLM, is a hindrance to a solution. only because the sheer divisiveness of it. I think if everyone from all walks, creeds, class, joined under the banner of 'no justice, no peace' or any other banner which was skinless it would have garnered more change within the system
I think, and I could be wrong, the protests will squeeze some superficial changes out of the system. but nothing of any serious substance. then itll fizzle out
I think, even though theres thousands involved in the protests, it's just not enough. it never will be until people protest as/ for people
very sorry for the massive undersight. hope I caused no offence in your time of mourning.
Eammon, I'm unsure if you realize the post you quoted of Cab's is a notification in regards to his mother's death? If you did, I apologize, but your response seems a very strange, outright inappropriate response to a notification about a parent's death.
I have no doubt Cab will be very genteel about the entire matter. I just wondered if you realized what you quoted?
I have no doubt Cab will be very genteel about the entire matter. I just wondered if you realized what you quoted?
Thousands nationwide walk off job for 'Strike for Black Lives' to protest racial inequality
Workers from the service industry, fast-food chains and the gig economy are rallying with organized labor to protest systemic and economic racism.
NEW YORK — Workers from the service industry, fast-food chains and the gig economy rallied with organized labor Monday to protest systemic racism and economic inequality, staging demonstrations across the U.S. and around the world seeking better treatment of Black Americans in the workplace.
Organizers said tens of thousands of workers in 160 cities walked off the job for strikes inspired by the racial reckoning that followed the deaths of several Black men and women who died at the hands of police. Visible support came largely in the form of protests that drew people whose jobs in health care, transportation and construction do not allow them to work from home during the coronavirus pandemic.
[ . . . ]
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nation-world/thousands-to-walk-off-job-to-protest-racial-inequality/507-3c59301e-bab0-4e84-9f98-4bb75520a3db
This is not over. There will be no peace without justice this time.
Workers from the service industry, fast-food chains and the gig economy are rallying with organized labor to protest systemic and economic racism.
NEW YORK — Workers from the service industry, fast-food chains and the gig economy rallied with organized labor Monday to protest systemic racism and economic inequality, staging demonstrations across the U.S. and around the world seeking better treatment of Black Americans in the workplace.
Organizers said tens of thousands of workers in 160 cities walked off the job for strikes inspired by the racial reckoning that followed the deaths of several Black men and women who died at the hands of police. Visible support came largely in the form of protests that drew people whose jobs in health care, transportation and construction do not allow them to work from home during the coronavirus pandemic.
[ . . . ]
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/nation-world/thousands-to-walk-off-job-to-protest-racial-inequality/507-3c59301e-bab0-4e84-9f98-4bb75520a3db
This is not over. There will be no peace without justice this time.
Ahavati said:Trying to catch up on some of the Dark Horse Podcasts with Dr's Brett Weinstein and Heather Heying this afternoon. One of the things I had seen on their social networking sites but didn't have enough information for was 'Articles of Unity 2020'. I didn't want to repost or suggest until I knew a little bit more about its purpose.
To be honest, I think I am very tired ( it's been a busy week ) today, so will defer any coherent opinion to later this week to give me more time to read through the site thoroughly. But I did want to post this here so you could familiarize yourself. This movement is particularly geared toward those NOT wanting to vote in the upcoming election as well as unifying all people.
https://twitter.com/ArticlesOfUnity
Site: https://www.articlesofunity.com/
Still reading about this. . .I haven't formed a personal opinion yet. Anyone else looked into it?
To be honest, I think I am very tired ( it's been a busy week ) today, so will defer any coherent opinion to later this week to give me more time to read through the site thoroughly. But I did want to post this here so you could familiarize yourself. This movement is particularly geared toward those NOT wanting to vote in the upcoming election as well as unifying all people.
https://twitter.com/ArticlesOfUnity
Site: https://www.articlesofunity.com/
Still reading about this. . .I haven't formed a personal opinion yet. Anyone else looked into it?
