Freedom of Speech and Censorship
Blackwolf said:Why do you insist on posting your version of god in this thread ?
I could post so many different versions of god , including the female
Lusifur , or the male Lusifurge , in this thread , but I , presently am not...
Do I have to start , to counteract your insistent religious dogma ?
Don’t bother. How about you let me be the unpopular one?
I could post so many different versions of god , including the female
Lusifur , or the male Lusifurge , in this thread , but I , presently am not...
Do I have to start , to counteract your insistent religious dogma ?
Don’t bother. How about you let me be the unpopular one?
JohnnyBlaze said:
Ahavati and I shifted our focus to the Freedom of Speech being exercised by millions of peaceful protesters with various skin colors in response to George Floyd's murder and the reforms they are accomplishing because of their efforts - evident by all the news articles Ahavati supplied.
And then certain posters were so triggered by this that they were compelled to disparage those protestors by lumping them in together with a relative handful of violent extremists bent on encouraging chaos in the United States.
I wasn’t triggered by millions of peaceful protesters.
I was triggered by what happened to the poetry society and other folks like them!
For clarity.
Ahavati and I shifted our focus to the Freedom of Speech being exercised by millions of peaceful protesters with various skin colors in response to George Floyd's murder and the reforms they are accomplishing because of their efforts - evident by all the news articles Ahavati supplied.
And then certain posters were so triggered by this that they were compelled to disparage those protestors by lumping them in together with a relative handful of violent extremists bent on encouraging chaos in the United States.
I wasn’t triggered by millions of peaceful protesters.
I was triggered by what happened to the poetry society and other folks like them!
For clarity.
We're going to be rebooting this thread this afternoon to open a new one with specific guidelines. We're just waiting on direction so as how to make our diverse membership feel more welcome to express their opinions and share their suggestions without fear of reprisal. Thank you for your patience.
As a precursor to the new thread, we would ask anyone who is genuine interested in a dialogue about race to watch this video presentation; but, most importantly, listen. The link content is below which will take you to the video:
Emmanuel Acho, Tika Sumpter on How ‘Open Dialogue’ Might Combat the Wounds of Racial Injustice (Video)
“There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure,” former NFL star and sports analyst Acho says
Former NFL star and veteran sports analyst Emmanuel Acho knows all too well the challenges that African Americans face in fighting racial injustice and inequality in the United States. Getting all Americans on board with understanding the issues and pushing for substantive change continues to be a struggle.
“I grew up in white culture. I went to an all-white private school in Dallas, Texas, and I’m first-generation American, I’m Nigerian American,” Acho told TheWrap editor in chief Sharon Waxman Tuesday during a webinar titled “Allies Unite: Fixing a Broken System and Using Your Platform for Change.”
“I don’t deal with the same hurt and pain in my heart due to years upon years of slavery, but nonetheless I’m clothed in a 6’2” 240-pound black frame and so when I step outside I’m still perceived as a threat and so I realized there’s a disconnect,” said Acho, who will soon replace Jason Whitlock as co-host of FS1’s “Speak for Youself.” “Let’s call it what it is: There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure.”
That disconnect prompted Acho to produce and host the unscripted video series “Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man,” whose first episode has garnered more than 22 million views across various social platforms since it premiered last week (a second episode, with actor Matthew McConaughey, debuted on Wednesday). “Ultimately my goal was to start a dialogue,” he said. “I hung out with so many of my white friends and they asked me questions I never thought they had.”
Tika Sumpter, the star of ABC’s “mixed-ish,” said she has felt a range of emotions since the killing of George Floyd and the subsequent protests and unrest, from feeling hopeless to feeling hopeful, and wondered what she can do to make lives better for others and for her 3-year-old daughter. “I think this is an open dialogue,” she said. “I think now more than ever it’s driving us to talk about the wound that has never been healed.”
The actress, who also co-founded of Sugaberry, a lifestyle brand for “moms of color,” said she was mindful of the hazards of public protests while the country is still in the middle of a pandemic. “We’re doing all the things to save our own lives while also being the highest at-risk group of people,” she said.
For Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, the widow of the late U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) and the CEO of Global Policy Solutions, the current push to address racial inequality feels all too familiar. “I’m experiencing this moment as a sense of deja vu,” she said. “I don’t know if you all remember but just five years ago, it was Baltimore city that was up in arms with troops on the street, tanks on the corners, and upset African Americans who were just basically mad because of years, decades, of having bad relationships with the police.”
Cummings stressed the importance of turning the momentum of the protests into meaningful action. “We will continue to be here if we don’t address the structural changes that are needed in this society, not only in the area of policing, but in the area of health, education, and economic security,” she said. “We have work to do as a nation and that work is to get rid of the racist anti-black system, that’s currently operating across our areas of influence so that we can actually have real opportunities for diverse people to live in a fair and inclusive society.”
Media-tech entrepreneur Adam Platzner, who is producing a PSA focused on how white people can effectively respond to the Black Lives Matter movement, noted the role that white allies can play in pushing for change. “We need to take responsibility, white people need to take responsibility for racism in their daily lives, and stopping it, and calling it out, if you see it, if it seems like a small thing, it’s not a small thing,” he said.
“If we’re going to disrupt racism, we need to do things that we haven’t been doing before,” he added.
https://www.thewrap.com/emmanuel-acho-tika-sumpter-on-how-open-dialogue-might-combat-the-wounds-of-racial-injustice-video/
Emmanuel Acho, Tika Sumpter on How ‘Open Dialogue’ Might Combat the Wounds of Racial Injustice (Video)
“There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure,” former NFL star and sports analyst Acho says
Former NFL star and veteran sports analyst Emmanuel Acho knows all too well the challenges that African Americans face in fighting racial injustice and inequality in the United States. Getting all Americans on board with understanding the issues and pushing for substantive change continues to be a struggle.
“I grew up in white culture. I went to an all-white private school in Dallas, Texas, and I’m first-generation American, I’m Nigerian American,” Acho told TheWrap editor in chief Sharon Waxman Tuesday during a webinar titled “Allies Unite: Fixing a Broken System and Using Your Platform for Change.”
“I don’t deal with the same hurt and pain in my heart due to years upon years of slavery, but nonetheless I’m clothed in a 6’2” 240-pound black frame and so when I step outside I’m still perceived as a threat and so I realized there’s a disconnect,” said Acho, who will soon replace Jason Whitlock as co-host of FS1’s “Speak for Youself.” “Let’s call it what it is: There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure.”
That disconnect prompted Acho to produce and host the unscripted video series “Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man,” whose first episode has garnered more than 22 million views across various social platforms since it premiered last week (a second episode, with actor Matthew McConaughey, debuted on Wednesday). “Ultimately my goal was to start a dialogue,” he said. “I hung out with so many of my white friends and they asked me questions I never thought they had.”
Tika Sumpter, the star of ABC’s “mixed-ish,” said she has felt a range of emotions since the killing of George Floyd and the subsequent protests and unrest, from feeling hopeless to feeling hopeful, and wondered what she can do to make lives better for others and for her 3-year-old daughter. “I think this is an open dialogue,” she said. “I think now more than ever it’s driving us to talk about the wound that has never been healed.”
The actress, who also co-founded of Sugaberry, a lifestyle brand for “moms of color,” said she was mindful of the hazards of public protests while the country is still in the middle of a pandemic. “We’re doing all the things to save our own lives while also being the highest at-risk group of people,” she said.
For Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, the widow of the late U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) and the CEO of Global Policy Solutions, the current push to address racial inequality feels all too familiar. “I’m experiencing this moment as a sense of deja vu,” she said. “I don’t know if you all remember but just five years ago, it was Baltimore city that was up in arms with troops on the street, tanks on the corners, and upset African Americans who were just basically mad because of years, decades, of having bad relationships with the police.”
Cummings stressed the importance of turning the momentum of the protests into meaningful action. “We will continue to be here if we don’t address the structural changes that are needed in this society, not only in the area of policing, but in the area of health, education, and economic security,” she said. “We have work to do as a nation and that work is to get rid of the racist anti-black system, that’s currently operating across our areas of influence so that we can actually have real opportunities for diverse people to live in a fair and inclusive society.”
Media-tech entrepreneur Adam Platzner, who is producing a PSA focused on how white people can effectively respond to the Black Lives Matter movement, noted the role that white allies can play in pushing for change. “We need to take responsibility, white people need to take responsibility for racism in their daily lives, and stopping it, and calling it out, if you see it, if it seems like a small thing, it’s not a small thing,” he said.
“If we’re going to disrupt racism, we need to do things that we haven’t been doing before,” he added.
https://www.thewrap.com/emmanuel-acho-tika-sumpter-on-how-open-dialogue-might-combat-the-wounds-of-racial-injustice-video/
Ahavati said:As a precursor to the new thread, we would ask anyone who is genuine interested in a dialogue about race to watch this video presentation; but, most importantly, listen. The link content is below which will take you to the video:
Emmanuel Acho, Tika Sumpter on How ‘Open Dialogue’ Might Combat the Wounds of Racial Injustice (Video)
“There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure,” former NFL star and sports analyst Acho says
Former NFL star and veteran sports analyst Emmanuel Acho knows all too well the challenges that African Americans face in fighting racial injustice and inequality in the United States. Getting all Americans on board with understanding the issues and pushing for substantive change continues to be a struggle.
“I grew up in white culture. I went to an all-white private school in Dallas, Texas, and I’m first-generation American, I’m Nigerian American,” Acho told TheWrap editor in chief Sharon Waxman Tuesday during a webinar titled “Allies Unite: Fixing a Broken System and Using Your Platform for Change.”
“I don’t deal with the same hurt and pain in my heart due to years upon years of slavery, but nonetheless I’m clothed in a 6’2” 240-pound black frame and so when I step outside I’m still perceived as a threat and so I realized there’s a disconnect,” said Acho, who will soon replace Jason Whitlock as co-host of FS1’s “Speak for Youself.” “Let’s call it what it is: There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure.”
That disconnect prompted Acho to produce and host the unscripted video series “Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man,” whose first episode has garnered more than 22 million views across various social platforms since it premiered last week (a second episode, with actor Matthew McConaughey, debuted on Wednesday). “Ultimately my goal was to start a dialogue,” he said. “I hung out with so many of my white friends and they asked me questions I never thought they had.”
Tika Sumpter, the star of ABC’s “mixed-ish,” said she has felt a range of emotions since the killing of George Floyd and the subsequent protests and unrest, from feeling hopeless to feeling hopeful, and wondered what she can do to make lives better for others and for her 3-year-old daughter. “I think this is an open dialogue,” she said. “I think now more than ever it’s driving us to talk about the wound that has never been healed.”
The actress, who also co-founded of Sugaberry, a lifestyle brand for “moms of color,” said she was mindful of the hazards of public protests while the country is still in the middle of a pandemic. “We’re doing all the things to save our own lives while also being the highest at-risk group of people,” she said.
For Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, the widow of the late U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) and the CEO of Global Policy Solutions, the current push to address racial inequality feels all too familiar. “I’m experiencing this moment as a sense of deja vu,” she said. “I don’t know if you all remember but just five years ago, it was Baltimore city that was up in arms with troops on the street, tanks on the corners, and upset African Americans who were just basically mad because of years, decades, of having bad relationships with the police.”
Cummings stressed the importance of turning the momentum of the protests into meaningful action. “We will continue to be here if we don’t address the structural changes that are needed in this society, not only in the area of policing, but in the area of health, education, and economic security,” she said. “We have work to do as a nation and that work is to get rid of the racist anti-black system, that’s currently operating across our areas of influence so that we can actually have real opportunities for diverse people to live in a fair and inclusive society.”
Media-tech entrepreneur Adam Platzner, who is producing a PSA focused on how white people can effectively respond to the Black Lives Matter movement, noted the role that white allies can play in pushing for change. “We need to take responsibility, white people need to take responsibility for racism in their daily lives, and stopping it, and calling it out, if you see it, if it seems like a small thing, it’s not a small thing,” he said.
“If we’re going to disrupt racism, we need to do things that we haven’t been doing before,” he added.
https://www.thewrap.com/emmanuel-acho-tika-sumpter-on-how-open-dialogue-might-combat-the-wounds-of-racial-injustice-video/
💖😎👍
Stuff like this is just innocent positivity on the face of it. Very intriguing. He’s probably as sincere as my fav talking-head Candice Owens.
Let not miss the chance to learn. War kisses like Judas and talks like peace, so I need to hear more before forming an opinion.
Emmanuel Acho, Tika Sumpter on How ‘Open Dialogue’ Might Combat the Wounds of Racial Injustice (Video)
“There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure,” former NFL star and sports analyst Acho says
Former NFL star and veteran sports analyst Emmanuel Acho knows all too well the challenges that African Americans face in fighting racial injustice and inequality in the United States. Getting all Americans on board with understanding the issues and pushing for substantive change continues to be a struggle.
“I grew up in white culture. I went to an all-white private school in Dallas, Texas, and I’m first-generation American, I’m Nigerian American,” Acho told TheWrap editor in chief Sharon Waxman Tuesday during a webinar titled “Allies Unite: Fixing a Broken System and Using Your Platform for Change.”
“I don’t deal with the same hurt and pain in my heart due to years upon years of slavery, but nonetheless I’m clothed in a 6’2” 240-pound black frame and so when I step outside I’m still perceived as a threat and so I realized there’s a disconnect,” said Acho, who will soon replace Jason Whitlock as co-host of FS1’s “Speak for Youself.” “Let’s call it what it is: There’s a disconnect between our white brothers and sisters and our black brothers and sisters and it’s because of limited exposure.”
That disconnect prompted Acho to produce and host the unscripted video series “Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man,” whose first episode has garnered more than 22 million views across various social platforms since it premiered last week (a second episode, with actor Matthew McConaughey, debuted on Wednesday). “Ultimately my goal was to start a dialogue,” he said. “I hung out with so many of my white friends and they asked me questions I never thought they had.”
Tika Sumpter, the star of ABC’s “mixed-ish,” said she has felt a range of emotions since the killing of George Floyd and the subsequent protests and unrest, from feeling hopeless to feeling hopeful, and wondered what she can do to make lives better for others and for her 3-year-old daughter. “I think this is an open dialogue,” she said. “I think now more than ever it’s driving us to talk about the wound that has never been healed.”
The actress, who also co-founded of Sugaberry, a lifestyle brand for “moms of color,” said she was mindful of the hazards of public protests while the country is still in the middle of a pandemic. “We’re doing all the things to save our own lives while also being the highest at-risk group of people,” she said.
For Dr. Maya Rockeymoore Cummings, the widow of the late U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) and the CEO of Global Policy Solutions, the current push to address racial inequality feels all too familiar. “I’m experiencing this moment as a sense of deja vu,” she said. “I don’t know if you all remember but just five years ago, it was Baltimore city that was up in arms with troops on the street, tanks on the corners, and upset African Americans who were just basically mad because of years, decades, of having bad relationships with the police.”
Cummings stressed the importance of turning the momentum of the protests into meaningful action. “We will continue to be here if we don’t address the structural changes that are needed in this society, not only in the area of policing, but in the area of health, education, and economic security,” she said. “We have work to do as a nation and that work is to get rid of the racist anti-black system, that’s currently operating across our areas of influence so that we can actually have real opportunities for diverse people to live in a fair and inclusive society.”
Media-tech entrepreneur Adam Platzner, who is producing a PSA focused on how white people can effectively respond to the Black Lives Matter movement, noted the role that white allies can play in pushing for change. “We need to take responsibility, white people need to take responsibility for racism in their daily lives, and stopping it, and calling it out, if you see it, if it seems like a small thing, it’s not a small thing,” he said.
“If we’re going to disrupt racism, we need to do things that we haven’t been doing before,” he added.
https://www.thewrap.com/emmanuel-acho-tika-sumpter-on-how-open-dialogue-might-combat-the-wounds-of-racial-injustice-video/
💖😎👍
Stuff like this is just innocent positivity on the face of it. Very intriguing. He’s probably as sincere as my fav talking-head Candice Owens.
Let not miss the chance to learn. War kisses like Judas and talks like peace, so I need to hear more before forming an opinion.
Anonymous
Your posts from page 19 to 26 of this thread alone say otherwise.
EdibleWords said:I’m shook by the violence, not the outrage over George Floyd. I’m glad to see people against brutality. But let people be for love and stop using toxic colorism.
EdibleWords said:More white men are killed by police. So WTF!?
Those were psycho killer cops. Period. Train police demonstrate for peace, and remember that everyone is suffering from domestic terrorism by anarchists.
You wanna make police go away and have total anarchy? That’s a terrible idea! I like it when the righteous cops clean house. Like we citizens should do on the streets.
#lovematters
EdibleWords said:I’ll do that if you will carry a sign in public saying #thuglivesmatter
This man did the same thing to a pregnant woman essentially, in a home invasion.
He made her beg for her baby with a gun to her stomach. Later he died crying to his mommy. Poetic.
EdibleWords said:Poetic justice is dying by the sword you abuse God’s children with.
He assaulted an unborn baby while essentially man-stealing and ransacking. (Unlawfully detaining, abusing and mobbing that poor woman is man-stealing!)
George Floyd died because he was resisting arrest on meth as a crime was in progress. His arresting officer/s was an epic dumbass/probable-murderer.
Would you push the cop off Hitler’s neck? Yes or no?
George Floyd was not only high, resisting arrest, but he had this home invasion record with escalating violence in plain view of those men. He was a giant, lying, hyped-up bouncer/criminal on meth with a reputation for violent crime. The man on his neck actually worked as a bouncer with him before. They were not friends.
Who knows why the cops killed him? He deserves to pay for murder and helping to burn the country. It was egregious but still is unknown as to details on body cams.
EdibleWords said:FYI, when you are a dangerous felon resisting arrest high on meth, a power-tripping cop will cause the nation to burn. Your love?
EdibleWords said:Wrong. I’m not judging him. Rather I’m saying burning America on behalf of him is wrong!
EdibleWords said:
He had drugs, he was resisting arrest, he was very high, he was a giant felon, a bouncer, known the the psycho killer, and so what does that tell you?
Destroy the world!?
If you want better police - amen.
If you want thugs to matter more than a terrorized black woman or a nation on fire, no.
You see men honor a man who’s surviving victim - who now - after begging him for her baby’s life - watches him sainted!
EdibleWords said:
Eh? Of course there are kkk types doing things. But seriously that’s a red herring. In fact the protesters will be accused of being leftist radicals, Chinese operatives, and gangs.
The idea that this must be about color not a Coup is ridiculous. This is a worldwide Leftist tantrum, seducing constitutionalists with tales of militia-run streets.
EdibleWords said:
No, gangs are in the street. And rabid liberals and other radicals.
This gem was from page 32.
EdibleWords said:
Are you trying to scare me? You don’t know where I live and you’ll never find me. None of your asshole commies. Take a slow boat the continent who’s politics you really serve.
33.
EdibleWords said:How does #blacklivesmatter deal with their white closet-racists within their movement?
What happened to the society was violence from #blacklivesmatter activism.
God showed me the response he’s been sending me for years at this point.
Jews matter like everyone else matters. #blacklivesmatter
I am David Dorn
I am Black
If you have done it to the least of these MY BRETHREN - you have done it unto me.
I’m an anti-racist of the blackest and bluest hue.
God showed me the response he’s been sending me for years at this point.
Jews matter like everyone else matters. #blacklivesmatter
I am David Dorn
I am Black
If you have done it to the least of these MY BRETHREN - you have done it unto me.
I’m an anti-racist of the blackest and bluest hue.
EdibleWords said:
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Stuff like this is just innocent positivity on the face of it. Very intriguing. He’s probably as sincere as my fav talking-head Candice Owens.
Let not miss the chance to learn. War kisses like Judas and talks like peace, so I need to hear more before forming an opinion.
Edible, the chance to learn, as you put it, is not being so, as Craic put it yesterday, "manic" to jump on posts without taking some time to listen and earnestly educate yourself about the contents you are making assumptions about.
This will not only save post space going forward, it will provide an opportunity for a more solid dialogue based on educated facts vs knee-jerk assumptions. These are, after all, black people who are being given a platform to speak. Not your Candice Owens from Fox News, who while claims she has never had "race issues", seems to have selective amnesia:
In 2008, a then-18-year-old Owens filed a lawsuit accusing the Stamford, Conn., Board of Education of not protecting her from racially charged harassment by white classmates. In fact, back then Owens also alleged that a student threatened to kill her and called her a racial slur.
Ironically, the NAACP, the same group that Owens now calls “one of the worst groups for Black people,” specifically came to her defense and helped her secure a $37,500 settlement in the case.
So there's that. But that's not the issue.
EdibleWords said:
[ . . . ]
I am David Dorn
I am Black
[ . . . ]
You can yell "I am Black!" until hell freezes over. But, that police officer who sees you drive down the road? Well, he's going to see a white woman. That manager who is monitoring the grocery store from its security camera? He is going to see a white woman. And the decisions they make in regards to either pulling you over or monitoring you for shoplifting is not going to be based on the color of your skin being black.
And those are solid facts.
💖😎👍
Stuff like this is just innocent positivity on the face of it. Very intriguing. He’s probably as sincere as my fav talking-head Candice Owens.
Let not miss the chance to learn. War kisses like Judas and talks like peace, so I need to hear more before forming an opinion.
Edible, the chance to learn, as you put it, is not being so, as Craic put it yesterday, "manic" to jump on posts without taking some time to listen and earnestly educate yourself about the contents you are making assumptions about.
This will not only save post space going forward, it will provide an opportunity for a more solid dialogue based on educated facts vs knee-jerk assumptions. These are, after all, black people who are being given a platform to speak. Not your Candice Owens from Fox News, who while claims she has never had "race issues", seems to have selective amnesia:
In 2008, a then-18-year-old Owens filed a lawsuit accusing the Stamford, Conn., Board of Education of not protecting her from racially charged harassment by white classmates. In fact, back then Owens also alleged that a student threatened to kill her and called her a racial slur.
Ironically, the NAACP, the same group that Owens now calls “one of the worst groups for Black people,” specifically came to her defense and helped her secure a $37,500 settlement in the case.
So there's that. But that's not the issue.
EdibleWords said:
[ . . . ]
I am David Dorn
I am Black
[ . . . ]
You can yell "I am Black!" until hell freezes over. But, that police officer who sees you drive down the road? Well, he's going to see a white woman. That manager who is monitoring the grocery store from its security camera? He is going to see a white woman. And the decisions they make in regards to either pulling you over or monitoring you for shoplifting is not going to be based on the color of your skin being black.
And those are solid facts.
Anonymous
EdibleWords said:What happened to the society was violence from #blacklivesmatter activism.
The actual peaceful protesters on the streets were not the handful of troublemakers and vice versa.
Hundreds of thousands versus hundreds.
Please stop lumping them together.
And avoiding all the quotes I posted regarding your lumpings ( and disdain for George Floyd ) further illustrates that you seem to have an irrational perspective of the peaceful protesters.
EdibleWords said:
I wasn’t triggered by millions of peaceful protesters.
I was triggered by what happened to the poetry society and other folks like them!
For clarity.
What poetry society? What happenned to it? What other folks like them?
Could you please be more specific?
What relevance do they have to the protesters?
The actual peaceful protesters on the streets were not the handful of troublemakers and vice versa.
Hundreds of thousands versus hundreds.
Please stop lumping them together.
And avoiding all the quotes I posted regarding your lumpings ( and disdain for George Floyd ) further illustrates that you seem to have an irrational perspective of the peaceful protesters.
EdibleWords said:
I wasn’t triggered by millions of peaceful protesters.
I was triggered by what happened to the poetry society and other folks like them!
For clarity.
What poetry society? What happenned to it? What other folks like them?
Could you please be more specific?
What relevance do they have to the protesters?
EdibleWords said:
[ . . . ]
God showed me the response he’s been sending me for years at this point.
[ . . . ]
According to their personal testimony, God also spoke to Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Scott Olson, Adam Housely, and many other famous murderers. Just because a person hears a voice doesn't mean it's God's. Hearing God's voice doesn't make you an authority on the subject without substantial proof. What makes people an authority on the subject are those who have actually experienced racism throughout their lives due to the color of their skin.
Also, there is the point of personal belief. While it's your right to believe however you choose, and state such, it's not your prerogative to repeatedly berate members of a forum discussion with it. Like Craic also said yesterday ( and many other participants in between ) your rather "repetitive".
So, let's establish now that we know the following things you profess:
You are "black".
You are "David Dorn".
You are Christian or Jewish ( which has yet to be conclusively determined ) and your God has shown you the response he’s been sending [ you ] for years at this point. Which is:
I am David Dorn.
I am Black.
Okay, we know. That has been established many times over. Thank you for sharing.
[ . . . ]
God showed me the response he’s been sending me for years at this point.
[ . . . ]
According to their personal testimony, God also spoke to Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Scott Olson, Adam Housely, and many other famous murderers. Just because a person hears a voice doesn't mean it's God's. Hearing God's voice doesn't make you an authority on the subject without substantial proof. What makes people an authority on the subject are those who have actually experienced racism throughout their lives due to the color of their skin.
Also, there is the point of personal belief. While it's your right to believe however you choose, and state such, it's not your prerogative to repeatedly berate members of a forum discussion with it. Like Craic also said yesterday ( and many other participants in between ) your rather "repetitive".
So, let's establish now that we know the following things you profess:
You are "black".
You are "David Dorn".
You are Christian or Jewish ( which has yet to be conclusively determined ) and your God has shown you the response he’s been sending [ you ] for years at this point. Which is:
I am David Dorn.
I am Black.
Okay, we know. That has been established many times over. Thank you for sharing.
Ahavati said:
You can yell "I am Black!" until hell freezes over.
My husband thinks I’d get my family killed putting that on my license,etc. Or me sent to prison. Do you agree?
Is it dangerous to speak like this?
Ahavati said: But, that police officer who sees you drive down the road? Well, he's going to see a white woman.
A registered black voter... too. And my position, that he should say “I am black.”
Ahavati said: That manager who is monitoring the grocery store from its security camera?
With a lot of children or too much stuff in her cart... Looked at like a cultist...
Ahavati said: He is going to see a white woman.
He’s gonna see a woman he judges on the basis of her appearance - no mask.
Ahavati said: And the decisions they make in regards to either pulling you over or monitoring you for shoplifting is not going to be based on the color of your skin being black.
But they might scream me out of a store. 🤨
Ahavati said: And those are solid facts.
As solid as 💩
You can yell "I am Black!" until hell freezes over.
My husband thinks I’d get my family killed putting that on my license,etc. Or me sent to prison. Do you agree?
Is it dangerous to speak like this?
Ahavati said: But, that police officer who sees you drive down the road? Well, he's going to see a white woman.
A registered black voter... too. And my position, that he should say “I am black.”
Ahavati said: That manager who is monitoring the grocery store from its security camera?
With a lot of children or too much stuff in her cart... Looked at like a cultist...
Ahavati said: He is going to see a white woman.
He’s gonna see a woman he judges on the basis of her appearance - no mask.
Ahavati said: And the decisions they make in regards to either pulling you over or monitoring you for shoplifting is not going to be based on the color of your skin being black.
But they might scream me out of a store. 🤨
Ahavati said: And those are solid facts.
As solid as 💩
Okay, firstly, I just want to point out that in responding to me, you completely avoided this part of my response to you. I earnestly hope you heed this if you want to be a part of a viable discussion on race relations.
Edible, the chance to learn, as you put it, is not being so, as Craic put it yesterday, "manic" to jump on posts without taking some time to listen and earnestly educate yourself about the contents you are making assumptions about.
This will not only save post space going forward, it will provide an opportunity for a more solid dialogue based on educated facts vs knee-jerk assumptions. These are, after all, black people who are being given a platform to speak. Not your Candice Owens from Fox News, who while claims she has never had "race issues", seems to have selective amnesia:
In 2008, a then-18-year-old Owens filed a lawsuit accusing the Stamford, Conn., Board of Education of not protecting her from racially charged harassment by white classmates. In fact, back then Owens also alleged that a student threatened to kill her and called her a racial slur.
Ironically, the NAACP, the same group that Owens now calls “one of the worst groups for Black people,” specifically came to her defense and helped her secure a $37,500 settlement in the case.
So there's that. But that's not the issue.
Secondly, moving onto the part you did choose to respond to:
My husband thinks I’d get my family killed putting that on my license,etc. Or me sent to prison. Do you agree?
Is it dangerous to speak like this?
Firstly, are you back with your husband now? Didn't your husband ( before George Floyd the protestor, and God's revelation to you ) make you leave your home? I know some of your public posts said your children were using manipulation to keep you from going back. Secondly, I have no idea if you would go to prison for listing yourself as 'black' on your driver's license unless it was to misrepresent yourself.
Think about it, when investigating a crime, police relay on color, age, height, hair, clothing, etc. Without these, detectives would be sitting around with thumbs up their asses. I suggest discussing the particulars with the DMV.
Additionally, I cannot imagine attempting to list "black" on your license would get your family killed. It might get you a mental evaluation if you make a scene.
Besides, what are you worried about? One of your responses to me ( on page 32 in regards to my stating I have been specifically asked to disseminate information regarding protests, programs by BLM) was:
Are you trying to scare me? You don’t know where I live and you’ll never find me. None of your asshole commies. Take a slow boat the continent who’s politics you really serve.
Ergo, why are you even worried about being found? I assume your "asshole commies" comment was in reference to BLM?
A registered black voter... too. And my position, that he should say “I am black.”
Same thing with voter registration - if your ID says "black" but the poll workers see "white", they may think you are attempting vote illegally. Something conservatives are highly concerned with.
Sorry, but no police officer who sees you driving down the road is going to say, "She is black". Your skin tone is white, therefore, they are going to think, "She is white."
With a lot of children or too much stuff in her cart... Looked at like a cultist...
That is irrelevant to being monitored for the color of your skin. Focus on the issue, please.
He’s gonna see a woman he judges on the basis of her appearance - no mask.
That is exactly correct and what I have been saying. You appear to be a white woman. Therefore, anyone is going to assume you are.
But they might scream me out of a store.
Maybe for how you act, but not because of the color of your skin. Let's focus please.
EdibleWords said:
As solid as 💩
Well, 💩 is pretty solid whether you like it or not; therefore, what I said is still solid truth.
Edible, the chance to learn, as you put it, is not being so, as Craic put it yesterday, "manic" to jump on posts without taking some time to listen and earnestly educate yourself about the contents you are making assumptions about.
This will not only save post space going forward, it will provide an opportunity for a more solid dialogue based on educated facts vs knee-jerk assumptions. These are, after all, black people who are being given a platform to speak. Not your Candice Owens from Fox News, who while claims she has never had "race issues", seems to have selective amnesia:
In 2008, a then-18-year-old Owens filed a lawsuit accusing the Stamford, Conn., Board of Education of not protecting her from racially charged harassment by white classmates. In fact, back then Owens also alleged that a student threatened to kill her and called her a racial slur.
Ironically, the NAACP, the same group that Owens now calls “one of the worst groups for Black people,” specifically came to her defense and helped her secure a $37,500 settlement in the case.
So there's that. But that's not the issue.
Secondly, moving onto the part you did choose to respond to:
My husband thinks I’d get my family killed putting that on my license,etc. Or me sent to prison. Do you agree?
Is it dangerous to speak like this?
Firstly, are you back with your husband now? Didn't your husband ( before George Floyd the protestor, and God's revelation to you ) make you leave your home? I know some of your public posts said your children were using manipulation to keep you from going back. Secondly, I have no idea if you would go to prison for listing yourself as 'black' on your driver's license unless it was to misrepresent yourself.
Think about it, when investigating a crime, police relay on color, age, height, hair, clothing, etc. Without these, detectives would be sitting around with thumbs up their asses. I suggest discussing the particulars with the DMV.
Additionally, I cannot imagine attempting to list "black" on your license would get your family killed. It might get you a mental evaluation if you make a scene.
Besides, what are you worried about? One of your responses to me ( on page 32 in regards to my stating I have been specifically asked to disseminate information regarding protests, programs by BLM) was:
Are you trying to scare me? You don’t know where I live and you’ll never find me. None of your asshole commies. Take a slow boat the continent who’s politics you really serve.
Ergo, why are you even worried about being found? I assume your "asshole commies" comment was in reference to BLM?
A registered black voter... too. And my position, that he should say “I am black.”
Same thing with voter registration - if your ID says "black" but the poll workers see "white", they may think you are attempting vote illegally. Something conservatives are highly concerned with.
Sorry, but no police officer who sees you driving down the road is going to say, "She is black". Your skin tone is white, therefore, they are going to think, "She is white."
With a lot of children or too much stuff in her cart... Looked at like a cultist...
That is irrelevant to being monitored for the color of your skin. Focus on the issue, please.
He’s gonna see a woman he judges on the basis of her appearance - no mask.
That is exactly correct and what I have been saying. You appear to be a white woman. Therefore, anyone is going to assume you are.
But they might scream me out of a store.
Maybe for how you act, but not because of the color of your skin. Let's focus please.
EdibleWords said:
As solid as 💩
Well, 💩 is pretty solid whether you like it or not; therefore, what I said is still solid truth.
That’s a long post to respond to on my time. Candace Owens just admitted while interviewing Rosie that she sees the victim card being played in race, and motioned to herself...with an apologizing look.
But when you are bullied, it makes sense to play what’s in your hand, right? Human...
But when you are bullied, it makes sense to play what’s in your hand, right? Human...
Ahavati said: I have no idea if you would go to prison for listing yourself as 'black' on your driver's license unless it was to misrepresent yourself.
Think about it, when investigating a crime, police relay on color, age, height, hair, clothing, etc. Without these, detectives would be sitting around with thumbs up their asses. I suggest discussing the particulars with the DMV.
So albinos have to say white? No. You have to get a gene test to say “black?” Why? Italians look black!
Police can describe hair color, skin tone, without a label like white or black.
But censuses, politics, birth certificates, voting papers are race baiting with labels.
It’s violent oppression.
I’m calling it out.
BLM carried a sign saying
“Silence is consent”
So is rape on the menu now?
Think about it, when investigating a crime, police relay on color, age, height, hair, clothing, etc. Without these, detectives would be sitting around with thumbs up their asses. I suggest discussing the particulars with the DMV.
So albinos have to say white? No. You have to get a gene test to say “black?” Why? Italians look black!
Police can describe hair color, skin tone, without a label like white or black.
But censuses, politics, birth certificates, voting papers are race baiting with labels.
It’s violent oppression.
I’m calling it out.
BLM carried a sign saying
“Silence is consent”
So is rape on the menu now?
