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EdibleWords said:
Massively misunderstood moment....
If this was about me I would NEVER have done this crap to myself. I’m an idiot if all I’ve done is convince you I’m screaming about myself, not offering a weapon against racism, oppression and genocide.
not at all , though you must admit there was a level of screaming about yourself. no saying for a minute you're devoid of thoughts and opinion just sometimes you can be a bit repetitive
Massively misunderstood moment....
If this was about me I would NEVER have done this crap to myself. I’m an idiot if all I’ve done is convince you I’m screaming about myself, not offering a weapon against racism, oppression and genocide.
not at all , though you must admit there was a level of screaming about yourself. no saying for a minute you're devoid of thoughts and opinion just sometimes you can be a bit repetitive
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lepperochan said:
ok, so let's say stage this stage in the day your race should be validated enough. if you are confident enough in your skin and such. you shouldn't NEED anyone to reinforce your idea of who you are. I don't think it should be used time and time again as some kind of dare or demand of/on people to recognise your idea of who you are. seems a tad selfish don't you think
same time there are questions to be asked, and that's fair enough. I think if you were a little less manic (I mean that in kindness) and got whatever broader message it is you have, it could probably yield a different response
EdibleWords said: So basically, some Cherokee people are white racists and and some are black transracial Freedmen?
EdibleWords said:
Are you saying Ahavati is not as racist as she claimed in her poem? Or that her racism cannot be the Cherokee part of her?
Or are you claiming that Freedmen are not transracial?
Those, and 90% of her posts are not questions; they are inflammatory remarks taken out of context and posed as questions indicative of trolling.
Free speech does not equate to trolling.
ok, so let's say stage this stage in the day your race should be validated enough. if you are confident enough in your skin and such. you shouldn't NEED anyone to reinforce your idea of who you are. I don't think it should be used time and time again as some kind of dare or demand of/on people to recognise your idea of who you are. seems a tad selfish don't you think
same time there are questions to be asked, and that's fair enough. I think if you were a little less manic (I mean that in kindness) and got whatever broader message it is you have, it could probably yield a different response
EdibleWords said: So basically, some Cherokee people are white racists and and some are black transracial Freedmen?
EdibleWords said:
Are you saying Ahavati is not as racist as she claimed in her poem? Or that her racism cannot be the Cherokee part of her?
Or are you claiming that Freedmen are not transracial?
Those, and 90% of her posts are not questions; they are inflammatory remarks taken out of context and posed as questions indicative of trolling.
Free speech does not equate to trolling.
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lepperochan said:
not at all , though you must admit there was a level of screaming about yourself. no saying for a minute you're devoid of thoughts and opinion just sometimes you can be a bit repetitive
Yeah, I mean, usually people avoid that. Lately.... #blacklivesmatter ... 24/7
But I’m using my-poor-self to make a point. A life-saving point.
.... Hopefully I don’t get the “Darwin Award”![](/images/forum/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
not at all , though you must admit there was a level of screaming about yourself. no saying for a minute you're devoid of thoughts and opinion just sometimes you can be a bit repetitive
Yeah, I mean, usually people avoid that. Lately.... #blacklivesmatter ... 24/7
But I’m using my-poor-self to make a point. A life-saving point.
.... Hopefully I don’t get the “Darwin Award”
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Ahavati said:
Blackwolf, I can safely say that from my observations you are not narcissistic. You are articulate to the point of infuriation at times; however, that is NOT narcissistic, and merely one of my triggers due to my past environment. Not you personally. It's something I'm working on, and appreciate you showing me I still have work to do.
Time for fessing up
This is a good thread for that
No BW you are not narcissistic, you are bull headed and I agree , you are articulate.
Your view of the world has a flavor some don't like the taste of, although I've seen some aquire a taste for your view after a while .
I have said in the past, that i felt that Ahavati is pure narcissist. I have since learned to dispel our differences and take a look at the whole woman which this thread has slowed me to see.
We all have narc tendencies some more than others the label is used to much now days. Today, I see in Ahavati, pieces of narc behavior, not a narcissist.
After having lived with a diagnosed malignant narcissist as my spouse you would think the last thing I would have are narc tendencies but I do have them
I see these as learned human behavior a mechanism to protect myself from pain and ridicule. I developed the very thing I despised
I had a difficult relationship with my mom and Ahavati reminds me of her
I would always turn the mom volume down and ignore what was said
By listening to what Ahavati has to say (which I don't always agree with especially COVID-19)
I have been humbled to open my eyes more often
I won't begin to say what I see in everyone, that's a different thread altogether
Wow can you see it now ? " What I really Think About The Person Above Me"
(No let's not)
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
Maybe you could regroup and re-organize your thoughts, pin point your main objective, focus on that before you fan out to other areas
Much Love Edible V
Blackwolf, I can safely say that from my observations you are not narcissistic. You are articulate to the point of infuriation at times; however, that is NOT narcissistic, and merely one of my triggers due to my past environment. Not you personally. It's something I'm working on, and appreciate you showing me I still have work to do.
Time for fessing up
This is a good thread for that
No BW you are not narcissistic, you are bull headed and I agree , you are articulate.
Your view of the world has a flavor some don't like the taste of, although I've seen some aquire a taste for your view after a while .
I have said in the past, that i felt that Ahavati is pure narcissist. I have since learned to dispel our differences and take a look at the whole woman which this thread has slowed me to see.
We all have narc tendencies some more than others the label is used to much now days. Today, I see in Ahavati, pieces of narc behavior, not a narcissist.
After having lived with a diagnosed malignant narcissist as my spouse you would think the last thing I would have are narc tendencies but I do have them
I see these as learned human behavior a mechanism to protect myself from pain and ridicule. I developed the very thing I despised
I had a difficult relationship with my mom and Ahavati reminds me of her
I would always turn the mom volume down and ignore what was said
By listening to what Ahavati has to say (which I don't always agree with especially COVID-19)
I have been humbled to open my eyes more often
I won't begin to say what I see in everyone, that's a different thread altogether
Wow can you see it now ? " What I really Think About The Person Above Me"
(No let's not)
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
Maybe you could regroup and re-organize your thoughts, pin point your main objective, focus on that before you fan out to other areas
Much Love Edible V
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Valeriyabeyond said:
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
Maybe you could regroup and re-organize your thoughts, pin point your main objective, focus on that before you fan out to other areas
Much Love Edible V
Overall great post.
I think it would be kind if the tribal reactions to me would stop. It’s not pot that’s been stoning me.... if you know what I mean.
I have been rooting for you both, and I’ve tried here to be open to my own paranoia.
At the end of the day... though. We need peace. I’m not the aggressor.
I’m the annoying little sister who doesn’t wish to reject or be rejected.
I feel like little David getting scolded by his older brothers for taking on Goliath.
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
Maybe you could regroup and re-organize your thoughts, pin point your main objective, focus on that before you fan out to other areas
Much Love Edible V
Overall great post.
I think it would be kind if the tribal reactions to me would stop. It’s not pot that’s been stoning me.... if you know what I mean.
I have been rooting for you both, and I’ve tried here to be open to my own paranoia.
At the end of the day... though. We need peace. I’m not the aggressor.
I’m the annoying little sister who doesn’t wish to reject or be rejected.
I feel like little David getting scolded by his older brothers for taking on Goliath.
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Valeriyabeyond said:
Time for fessing up
This is a good thread for that
No BW you are not narcissistic, you are bull headed and I agree , you are articulate.
Your view of the world has a flavor some don't like the taste of, although I've seen some aquire a taste for your view after a while .
I have said in the past, that i felt that Ahavati is pure narcissist. I have since learned to dispel our differences and take a look at the whole woman which this thread has slowed me to see.
We all have narc tendencies some more than others the label is used to much now days. Today, I see in Ahavati, pieces of narc behavior, not a narcissist.
After having lived with a diagnosed malignant narcissist as my spouse you would think the last thing I would have are narc tendencies but I do have them
I see these as learned human behavior a mechanism to protect myself from pain and ridicule. I developed the very thing I despised
I had a difficult relationship with my mom and Ahavati reminds me of her
I would always turn the mom volume down and ignore what was said
By listening to what Ahavati has to say (which I don't always agree with especially COVID-19)
I have been humbled to open my eyes more often
I won't begin to say what I see in everyone, that's a different thread altogether
Wow can you see it now ? " What I really Think About The Person Above Me"
(No let's not)
Thank you, Val! I appreciate that. I actually feel the same way about you. And I had a discussion with a good friend about making the choice to listen ( and for her to call me out if I didn't ). I am glad I did because I've really come to admire you.
We all have narcissistic traits, but, no, I am not a narcissist. I do not shadow, harass, troll for attention, take things out of context, cherry-pick, write derogatory poetry about others, nor deliberately bully ( though it's been said I have ). I am a scorpion; thus, pretty direct with the truth as I perceive it ( which doesn't make it universal truth by any means ). I have been in the legal profession and worked with some tough litigators across the country for 15 years, so that makes me seem somewhat hard. But I try to present the facts and allow others to make up their own minds.
That has been misinterpreted as arrogance or haughty many times, particularly when I feel I need to rise above and ignore others for my own peace of mind. I don't think I am better than anyone; however, I do think I am good enough to protect against harassment and deliberate provocation. Also, there are a lot of backdoor politics on this site that many members aren't aware of, and those come into play in certain threads involving certain people.
Anyway, I am happy I got to know you; feel free to call me out if you feel I've ever crossed the and we'll talk it out. Maybe in some strange way you can heal something of you through the part that reminds you of your mother. There's a reason for everything, after all.
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
[. . . ]
Indeed. And there is no excuse for it. It only alienates others further than what they already are.
Time for fessing up
This is a good thread for that
No BW you are not narcissistic, you are bull headed and I agree , you are articulate.
Your view of the world has a flavor some don't like the taste of, although I've seen some aquire a taste for your view after a while .
I have said in the past, that i felt that Ahavati is pure narcissist. I have since learned to dispel our differences and take a look at the whole woman which this thread has slowed me to see.
We all have narc tendencies some more than others the label is used to much now days. Today, I see in Ahavati, pieces of narc behavior, not a narcissist.
After having lived with a diagnosed malignant narcissist as my spouse you would think the last thing I would have are narc tendencies but I do have them
I see these as learned human behavior a mechanism to protect myself from pain and ridicule. I developed the very thing I despised
I had a difficult relationship with my mom and Ahavati reminds me of her
I would always turn the mom volume down and ignore what was said
By listening to what Ahavati has to say (which I don't always agree with especially COVID-19)
I have been humbled to open my eyes more often
I won't begin to say what I see in everyone, that's a different thread altogether
Wow can you see it now ? " What I really Think About The Person Above Me"
(No let's not)
Thank you, Val! I appreciate that. I actually feel the same way about you. And I had a discussion with a good friend about making the choice to listen ( and for her to call me out if I didn't ). I am glad I did because I've really come to admire you.
We all have narcissistic traits, but, no, I am not a narcissist. I do not shadow, harass, troll for attention, take things out of context, cherry-pick, write derogatory poetry about others, nor deliberately bully ( though it's been said I have ). I am a scorpion; thus, pretty direct with the truth as I perceive it ( which doesn't make it universal truth by any means ). I have been in the legal profession and worked with some tough litigators across the country for 15 years, so that makes me seem somewhat hard. But I try to present the facts and allow others to make up their own minds.
That has been misinterpreted as arrogance or haughty many times, particularly when I feel I need to rise above and ignore others for my own peace of mind. I don't think I am better than anyone; however, I do think I am good enough to protect against harassment and deliberate provocation. Also, there are a lot of backdoor politics on this site that many members aren't aware of, and those come into play in certain threads involving certain people.
Anyway, I am happy I got to know you; feel free to call me out if you feel I've ever crossed the and we'll talk it out. Maybe in some strange way you can heal something of you through the part that reminds you of your mother. There's a reason for everything, after all.
Edible sister
I feel the direction you are taking your rant is futile.
You hap hazardly throw daggers of hatred instead of arrows of wisdom
[. . . ]
Indeed. And there is no excuse for it. It only alienates others further than what they already are.
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Proud Alpha Male Wolf , here :
( no slight to Females , or Non Alphas , just my reality ; not bull headed , Wolf headed...; )
Here we go ;
Further "red triangle" bullshit ;
If you can get Washington Post , on your phone . watch it there...
But this is all I could get on the computer...
Better on Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGEC5ElG1ZA
Opinion | Leaked document makes Trump’s use of Nazi-era symbol look worse
By Greg Sargent
Original
( no slight to Females , or Non Alphas , just my reality ; not bull headed , Wolf headed...; )
Here we go ;
Further "red triangle" bullshit ;
If you can get Washington Post , on your phone . watch it there...
But this is all I could get on the computer...
Better on Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGEC5ElG1ZA
Opinion | Leaked document makes Trump’s use of Nazi-era symbol look worse
By Greg Sargent
Original
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Blackwolf said:Proud Alpha Male Wolf , here :
( no slight to Females , or Non Alphas , just my reality ; not bull headed , Wolf headed...; )
Here we go ;
Further "red triangle" bullshit ;
If you can get Washington Post , on your phone . watch it there...
But this is all I could get on the computer...
Better on Washington Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGEC5ElG1ZA
Opinion | Leaked document makes Trump’s use of Nazi-era symbol look worse
By Greg Sargent
Original
It really is sickening smear campaign to fire up his base, which is severely eroded since Covid struck and his treatment of peaceful protesters during the Bible photo opp - which he has yet to make any apologies for.
Trump campaign nixes outdoor speech ahead of rally after smaller-than-expected crowd
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/tulsa-rally-trump/index.html
In the days leading up to Trump's Saturday rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, he and his allies ginned up expectations for a massive crowd with campaign officials telling CNN that more than a million people had registered to attend, and one local official stating they expected 100,000 to show up near the arena.
But those crowds didn't appear as large as expected Saturday afternoon, leading to an abrupt change of plans by the campaign. A campaign source told CNN that the team was abandoning plans for the President to speak to an "overflow" area outside the arena in Tulsa where only a couple dozen people were standing near the outdoor stage less than two hours before the rally.
Also regarding the rally ...
Few rallygoers were wearing masks as they entered the venue to take seats that were right next to one another. The crowd standing near the stage was already tightly packed as people without face coverings stood face-to-face talking to one another as loud music played in the background.
Trump initially was scheduled to hold the rally on Friday, which would have fallen on Juneteenth, the day commemorating the end of slavery in the United States. That decision angered many progressive leaders and protesters who have been in the streets demonstrating against racism in the weeks since George Floyd was killed by a Minneapolis police officer. The decision was particularly fraught because of Tulsa's history as the site of one of the worst racially-motivated massacres in US history in 1921 when a White mob attacked Black residents and business owners in the Tulsa neighborhood known as Greenwood.
The President changed the rally date to Saturday in what he described as a gesture of respect to the observance of Juneteenth, but he has continued to antagonize protesters. On Friday, he warned in a tweet that protesters could be roughly handled.
"Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene!" he tweeted.
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JohnnyBlaze said:
He didn’t handle that personally. This has been explained in the media. People crowding around that very church had already torched it hours earlier.
We don’t have all the facts because media bias is slowing and filtering the flow of information.
There’s espionage going on here. Foreign interests, etc.
He didn’t handle that personally. This has been explained in the media. People crowding around that very church had already torched it hours earlier.
We don’t have all the facts because media bias is slowing and filtering the flow of information.
There’s espionage going on here. Foreign interests, etc.
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He is crazy enough...
And a great danger to our country...
Yet more , those working with him , behind him ,
knowing the Code I know...very dangerous...
Another example :
"STOP ANTIFA"
"MOBS"
"DESTROYING"
The words capitalized on the advertisement...
They equal :
STOP = 219
ANTIFA = 138
MOBS = 140
DESTROYING = 398
= 905
And we have a number value of a set of symbols , equaling 1008
It just so happens ( ahem ) the number value difference between
905 , and 1008 , equals 103...which *just happens* to equal to
the Obri / Hebrew word for "To Guard , Protect"...
They know very well , what they are doing...playing with consciousness...
And a great danger to our country...
Yet more , those working with him , behind him ,
knowing the Code I know...very dangerous...
Another example :
"STOP ANTIFA"
"MOBS"
"DESTROYING"
The words capitalized on the advertisement...
They equal :
STOP = 219
ANTIFA = 138
MOBS = 140
DESTROYING = 398
= 905
And we have a number value of a set of symbols , equaling 1008
It just so happens ( ahem ) the number value difference between
905 , and 1008 , equals 103...which *just happens* to equal to
the Obri / Hebrew word for "To Guard , Protect"...
They know very well , what they are doing...playing with consciousness...
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Fascinating stuff, BW!
I think God made that coincidence - not man.
I think God made that coincidence - not man.