Corona Time
I've read a lot of opinions on the DU and other places over the pasts weeks about the current situation in the world.
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do feel there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do feel there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
Magdalena said:I've read a lot of opinions on the DU and other places over the pasts weeks about the current situation in the world.
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do believe there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
can you say that again. try a more ....coherent accent
Yeah, I agree. Haven't watched news in a while. just going about my business with caution and not killing anyone. seems to be and end-ish in sight. pubs will be open by August, once that happens every one will soon forget Covid
I did notice theres more middle class people with the "I dont want no vaccine" (obviously spoken in better syntax
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do believe there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
can you say that again. try a more ....coherent accent
Yeah, I agree. Haven't watched news in a while. just going about my business with caution and not killing anyone. seems to be and end-ish in sight. pubs will be open by August, once that happens every one will soon forget Covid
I did notice theres more middle class people with the "I dont want no vaccine" (obviously spoken in better syntax
Magdalena said:I've read a lot of opinions on the DU and other places over the pasts weeks about the current situation in the world.
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do believe there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
One of the best posts I have read on this site , outside of poetry...
I will listen to logic and possibility. I'm open to anything possible that I cannot prove nor disprove, meaning if it has no validation either way, I cannot form an opinion either way/deny or accept but I am open to it.
"Proof/Fact" has to be tangible (as in the literal and metaphorical meaning) I'm not going to consume anything as fact because someone says it is.
I loathe any form of mind control. I will not be preached to and I have no time for anyone trying to force feed me their opinions.
I disavow government and the monarchy and the church. I do not believe anyone should be handed that kind of power. I do not like control but I am not naive enough to believe there should be no form of control in the world. I know we need some kind of order, but the way it is, it is corrupt to the core. I do believe there are things going on that we have no proof or clue about, that would shatter us. I'm not going to become obsessive with trying to find out what that may be, because it will consume me and affect my state of mind, which is the aim of the game.
My instinct is more attentive when my mind is not bogged down with a ton of speculation. So even though at this time of Covid-19, I am surrounded by different views and opinions, in real life and online life. I'm not letting it in.
People I know are waking up thinking about what is going on at the moment (from con theories to lock down and deaths etc) and going to sleep thinking about it, so much so that it is effecting their quality of life, emotionally and mentally.
Which from my perspective is crazy.
No one need listen to or read me either. I just feel chatty at the moment, I'm going to sleep now.
One of the best posts I have read on this site , outside of poetry...
Fear;
At a population level, one of our strengths is that each person responds differently to fear, in any given situation.
In a fire, some will run, and some will freeze. There was a tunnel fire years ago where the people who ran form the burning bus were the ones who died (from smoke inhalation). In most fires in tunnels the people who freeze die.
In a war, some locals will choose to stay, and perhaps that is an advantage as they don't loose claim to their land if the right side wins....or the battle front runs over them and they are the ones who die.
Fear is indeed natural. It is our evolutionary advantage that we have different reactions to it at the individual level, so no one event of any kind kills all of us.
An example is the fear of spiders. In the modern western context, a fear of spiders is marginally counter to your survival, as spiders are cleaning up the less awesome bugs such as cockroaches (that can carry infections) in your environment. 10 000 years ago fear of spiders was more rational, as keeping them away from sleeping quarters/young children was a survival advantage. This is a poorly thought out example, but you get the idea. Also, I love spiders and all the scary things.....which would have gotten me killed in most generations in the past.
In regard to "facing your fears"....yes and no. I am afraid of swimming, in the dark, in deep water at sea. I do it every now and then to experience what is just on the edge of panic for me....it is super interesting to manage my fear responses, or at least to observe them.
I am also afraid of war....but won't be going to a war zone any time soon to "face my fears". That would be dumb.
Having watched my nieces and nephews grow up, a huge amount of what we are afraid of is actually shit that was imprinted on us when we were young. Even the first couple of reactions to a cut or graze can set a person up for a highly over-reactive adulthood. Those fears are worth testing in a rational way.
I am also afraid of the sea, particularly heavy weather, and seek this out, This, coupled with the fact I am childless, at an evolutionary level, make me a dead-end, because both of those decisions are counter to our survival.
Humans are a hot mess, and trying to talk rationally about real fear is a good example.
(the modern theory of how our entire lives are affected by fear of death, right down to things we do daily, is fascinating....if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong)
At a population level, one of our strengths is that each person responds differently to fear, in any given situation.
In a fire, some will run, and some will freeze. There was a tunnel fire years ago where the people who ran form the burning bus were the ones who died (from smoke inhalation). In most fires in tunnels the people who freeze die.
In a war, some locals will choose to stay, and perhaps that is an advantage as they don't loose claim to their land if the right side wins....or the battle front runs over them and they are the ones who die.
Fear is indeed natural. It is our evolutionary advantage that we have different reactions to it at the individual level, so no one event of any kind kills all of us.
An example is the fear of spiders. In the modern western context, a fear of spiders is marginally counter to your survival, as spiders are cleaning up the less awesome bugs such as cockroaches (that can carry infections) in your environment. 10 000 years ago fear of spiders was more rational, as keeping them away from sleeping quarters/young children was a survival advantage. This is a poorly thought out example, but you get the idea. Also, I love spiders and all the scary things.....which would have gotten me killed in most generations in the past.
In regard to "facing your fears"....yes and no. I am afraid of swimming, in the dark, in deep water at sea. I do it every now and then to experience what is just on the edge of panic for me....it is super interesting to manage my fear responses, or at least to observe them.
I am also afraid of war....but won't be going to a war zone any time soon to "face my fears". That would be dumb.
Having watched my nieces and nephews grow up, a huge amount of what we are afraid of is actually shit that was imprinted on us when we were young. Even the first couple of reactions to a cut or graze can set a person up for a highly over-reactive adulthood. Those fears are worth testing in a rational way.
I am also afraid of the sea, particularly heavy weather, and seek this out, This, coupled with the fact I am childless, at an evolutionary level, make me a dead-end, because both of those decisions are counter to our survival.
Humans are a hot mess, and trying to talk rationally about real fear is a good example.
(the modern theory of how our entire lives are affected by fear of death, right down to things we do daily, is fascinating....if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong)
"Fear is indeed natural."
In the common lower human...
"if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong"
If you think it applies to everyone , you are wrong...
Now...do you really want to go to war over this , or will you
intelligently admit not all humans live by the same reactions ?
In the common lower human...
"if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong"
If you think it applies to everyone , you are wrong...
Now...do you really want to go to war over this , or will you
intelligently admit not all humans live by the same reactions ?
Agree , Lepperochan...
I went past fear , years ago...
It is possible for humans...most just do not choose it
I encourage anyone who thinks differently , to go talk
to a guru , or their choice of spiritual teacher...
They will tell you the same thing...
Fear is *normal low level human nature*
There are many levels beyond that energy ( phase )
I went past fear , years ago...
It is possible for humans...most just do not choose it
I encourage anyone who thinks differently , to go talk
to a guru , or their choice of spiritual teacher...
They will tell you the same thing...
Fear is *normal low level human nature*
There are many levels beyond that energy ( phase )
Blackwolf said:"Fear is indeed natural."
In the common lower human...
"if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong"
If you think it applies to everyone , you are wrong...
Now...do you really want to go to war over this , or will you
intelligently admit not all humans live by the same reactions ?
As usual, the onus is on the maker of the extraordinary claim to prove their assertion. I am quoting our understanding of primate physiology. If you care to dispute that, you are making an extraordinary claim, and I am open to evidence.
In order to 'disprove' that all humans feel fear you must first address the function of the amygdala and the adrenal glands.
There are a small number of people on the planet who were born or subsequently injured so this system does not work, but apart from that the statement stands.
(Will you be following your usual script?
- use condescending language and name calling
- say you have evidence but only you know it
- refuse to provide evidence, since we are not worthy
- continue to do this for several pages)
In the common lower human...
"if you think it doesn't apply to you, you are wrong"
If you think it applies to everyone , you are wrong...
Now...do you really want to go to war over this , or will you
intelligently admit not all humans live by the same reactions ?
As usual, the onus is on the maker of the extraordinary claim to prove their assertion. I am quoting our understanding of primate physiology. If you care to dispute that, you are making an extraordinary claim, and I am open to evidence.
In order to 'disprove' that all humans feel fear you must first address the function of the amygdala and the adrenal glands.
There are a small number of people on the planet who were born or subsequently injured so this system does not work, but apart from that the statement stands.
(Will you be following your usual script?
- use condescending language and name calling
- say you have evidence but only you know it
- refuse to provide evidence, since we are not worthy
- continue to do this for several pages)
In regard to my statement about our fear of death, I am referencing this theory, that has been borne out in laboratory testing and in observation of population scale behavior. 9/11 was a great textbook example of fear on that scale, and demonstrated the theory quite well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory
The tests to demonstrate this in the lab are amazing, and demonstrate very easily that fear of death is a real driver of our behavior, and also that we are not aware of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror_management_theory
The tests to demonstrate this in the lab are amazing, and demonstrate very easily that fear of death is a real driver of our behavior, and also that we are not aware of it.
