Corona Virus ( Covid-19 )
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EdibleWords said:
The only people being tested are very sick. Doesn't that skew everything? They say DON'T test unless already ill.
The people in air conditioned hospitals have got to be at greatest risk based on the articles about air conditioning on the virus. Hubby was telling me about it.
Last place I'd want to try to get better is in a hospital or similar building.
My mind isn't in cement. I have a lot of questions. Ten kids looking to us for answers, too.
Still alarmed at the economic meltdown this metaphorical "theatre fire" hypothesis has caused.
Go to the world health Organization website and read their advice. They also talk about mental health and dealing with stress. I think Norway had a YouTube recorded session where experts were asked questions only by kids...see if you can find that.
Don’t watch the news, except maybe once a day for local government updates.
The only people being tested are very sick. Doesn't that skew everything? They say DON'T test unless already ill.
The people in air conditioned hospitals have got to be at greatest risk based on the articles about air conditioning on the virus. Hubby was telling me about it.
Last place I'd want to try to get better is in a hospital or similar building.
My mind isn't in cement. I have a lot of questions. Ten kids looking to us for answers, too.
Still alarmed at the economic meltdown this metaphorical "theatre fire" hypothesis has caused.
Go to the world health Organization website and read their advice. They also talk about mental health and dealing with stress. I think Norway had a YouTube recorded session where experts were asked questions only by kids...see if you can find that.
Don’t watch the news, except maybe once a day for local government updates.
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To help is a noble thought even honorable
Where I live on a mountain with just 200 residents all over 50 years of age
If shtf The plan is to cut a trench across the main road to keep people out that is the decision made after our virtual community meeting
We are helping we are helping each other to remain alive
Where I live on a mountain with just 200 residents all over 50 years of age
If shtf The plan is to cut a trench across the main road to keep people out that is the decision made after our virtual community meeting
We are helping we are helping each other to remain alive
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Ahavati said:
We will NEVER know with certainty the full extent of statistics. Nor how many flu victims actually had covid-19.
We work with what we have, and we move forward.
And while yes, there is an economic meltdown, there is also hope. Power companies are forgoing disconnects. Banks are forgoing foreclosures. Phone companies forgoing disconnects. The IRS is delaying taxes for three months interest and penalty free. Low income children are getting fed. I've been posting a lot of good news in these threads.
Yes, there is a lot of scary stuff happening, but there is a lot of good. What do you tell your children? Tell them what Mr. Roger's mother told him: Look for the helpers. And, if possible, become one.
Amen, especially to the last paragraph! 💖💖💖💖👏
I've got prepper friends fretting and we're not really talking much... we don't feel kids should be burdened, but to some degree, they are. They don't go to town, not since their sister got sick/hospitalized... she's telling us she think it's covid19... she survived. Not before I wrote that song for her, sobbing...
We will NEVER know with certainty the full extent of statistics. Nor how many flu victims actually had covid-19.
We work with what we have, and we move forward.
And while yes, there is an economic meltdown, there is also hope. Power companies are forgoing disconnects. Banks are forgoing foreclosures. Phone companies forgoing disconnects. The IRS is delaying taxes for three months interest and penalty free. Low income children are getting fed. I've been posting a lot of good news in these threads.
Yes, there is a lot of scary stuff happening, but there is a lot of good. What do you tell your children? Tell them what Mr. Roger's mother told him: Look for the helpers. And, if possible, become one.
Amen, especially to the last paragraph! 💖💖💖💖👏
I've got prepper friends fretting and we're not really talking much... we don't feel kids should be burdened, but to some degree, they are. They don't go to town, not since their sister got sick/hospitalized... she's telling us she think it's covid19... she survived. Not before I wrote that song for her, sobbing...
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Valeriya said:To help is a noble thought even honorable
Where I live on a mountain with just 200 residents all over 50 years of age
If shtf The plan is to cut a trench across the main road to keep people out that is the decision made after our virtual community meeting
We are helping we are helping each other to remain alive
That’s a terrible plan, made by fear not rational thinking.
Keep people behaving the right way, prepare for a spike in cases that need medical help, and sure as hell don’t cut off your supply lines by digging trenches in anything.
This isn’t the zombie apocalypse....it’s a virus outbreak that can’t beat clean hands or living outside a host for a couple of days.
Where I live on a mountain with just 200 residents all over 50 years of age
If shtf The plan is to cut a trench across the main road to keep people out that is the decision made after our virtual community meeting
We are helping we are helping each other to remain alive
That’s a terrible plan, made by fear not rational thinking.
Keep people behaving the right way, prepare for a spike in cases that need medical help, and sure as hell don’t cut off your supply lines by digging trenches in anything.
This isn’t the zombie apocalypse....it’s a virus outbreak that can’t beat clean hands or living outside a host for a couple of days.
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Just so you know...and getting worse , Hemi...
https://deadline.com/2020/03/los-angeles-mayor-shutdown-enforcement-order-eric-garcetti-lapd-1202888219/
https://deadline.com/2020/03/los-angeles-mayor-shutdown-enforcement-order-eric-garcetti-lapd-1202888219/nypost.com/2020/03/19/los-angeles-county-in-near-lockdown-after-safer-at-home-order-due-to-coronavirus/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-reports-no-new-domestic-coronavirus-infections-for-the-first-time-since-outbreak-started-11584611233
Leaving now...done for moment
https://deadline.com/2020/03/los-angeles-mayor-shutdown-enforcement-order-eric-garcetti-lapd-1202888219/
https://deadline.com/2020/03/los-angeles-mayor-shutdown-enforcement-order-eric-garcetti-lapd-1202888219/nypost.com/2020/03/19/los-angeles-county-in-near-lockdown-after-safer-at-home-order-due-to-coronavirus/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-reports-no-new-domestic-coronavirus-infections-for-the-first-time-since-outbreak-started-11584611233
Leaving now...done for moment
Ahavati
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EdibleWords said:
Amen, especially to the last paragraph! 💖💖💖💖👏
I've got prepper friends fretting and we're not really talking much... we don't feel kids should be burdened, but to some degree, they are. They don't go to town, not since their sister got sick/hospitalized... she's telling us she think it's covid19... she survived. Not before I wrote that song for her, sobbing...
Children are old enough to know when they ask. You may have to talk in apples & oranges terms. . .if they aren't asking, then live as normally as possible. Even if they do ask, live as normally as possible - keep to your routines as much as possible, incorporating social distancing, of course.
My grandson wanted to go to the public park this week, and I had to explain to him why he could not. He was fine with that. He now fully understands this is not a vacation from school; this is a required measure. Like most adults, it had to affect him personally e.g. - no park, Chuck E. Cheese, Putt Putt, etc. Those may sound petty to us; however, they are big to children.
Amen, especially to the last paragraph! 💖💖💖💖👏
I've got prepper friends fretting and we're not really talking much... we don't feel kids should be burdened, but to some degree, they are. They don't go to town, not since their sister got sick/hospitalized... she's telling us she think it's covid19... she survived. Not before I wrote that song for her, sobbing...
Children are old enough to know when they ask. You may have to talk in apples & oranges terms. . .if they aren't asking, then live as normally as possible. Even if they do ask, live as normally as possible - keep to your routines as much as possible, incorporating social distancing, of course.
My grandson wanted to go to the public park this week, and I had to explain to him why he could not. He was fine with that. He now fully understands this is not a vacation from school; this is a required measure. Like most adults, it had to affect him personally e.g. - no park, Chuck E. Cheese, Putt Putt, etc. Those may sound petty to us; however, they are big to children.
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hemihead said:
You seem very fixated on the idea of being locked in your house. You know people are allowed to go outside right? If they aren’t, then you are in an Italy situation where the disease is in outbreak, ie not contained, and regardless of your brave talk now, you won’t want to go out. If your country, once it arrives, doesn’t do the voluntary one, you get an outbreak, then you get what Italy has, and you have to do the second one.
You seem to be labouring under the misnomer that there are no other people in these situations that feel like you, or that your opinions on your freedom will matter when a disease in is fill-on outbreak. No one in Italy is hitting the streets now, even though they are all hating it, because that’s not their current reality, and they are trying to save each other’s lives. That’s why they sing from their balconies....to claim the freedom of solidarity against a common enemy.
To the person talking about masks, the value of a mask is mostly to stop sick people spreading it. If you google the size of the covid 19 virus you will see that only a correctly fitted mask down to the finest of dust particles will do it. No one you see on the streets wearing a mask is wearing them correctly fitted (no gaps around sides of nose etc), but they feel good about it.
As a measure to stop/reduce the virus spreading they do have value, so keep using them, just don’t believe it’s stopping you getting sick. Plenty of research on this. You wear them in case you are sick. (Ps, at these sizes, a teeshirt is like holding a tennis racket over your mouth....look it up)
When in doubt, put the mask on the sick person.
I do understand the particle size, etc. I know that a cloth mask will not protect from Covid. I have reached out to my sister, a CRNA for more direction in this arena. She will investigate and get back to me. I am stuck in my house and looking for ways to help. If I can help in this way (should that be a viable option) then I would like to do so. But thanks for your comment...
You seem very fixated on the idea of being locked in your house. You know people are allowed to go outside right? If they aren’t, then you are in an Italy situation where the disease is in outbreak, ie not contained, and regardless of your brave talk now, you won’t want to go out. If your country, once it arrives, doesn’t do the voluntary one, you get an outbreak, then you get what Italy has, and you have to do the second one.
You seem to be labouring under the misnomer that there are no other people in these situations that feel like you, or that your opinions on your freedom will matter when a disease in is fill-on outbreak. No one in Italy is hitting the streets now, even though they are all hating it, because that’s not their current reality, and they are trying to save each other’s lives. That’s why they sing from their balconies....to claim the freedom of solidarity against a common enemy.
To the person talking about masks, the value of a mask is mostly to stop sick people spreading it. If you google the size of the covid 19 virus you will see that only a correctly fitted mask down to the finest of dust particles will do it. No one you see on the streets wearing a mask is wearing them correctly fitted (no gaps around sides of nose etc), but they feel good about it.
As a measure to stop/reduce the virus spreading they do have value, so keep using them, just don’t believe it’s stopping you getting sick. Plenty of research on this. You wear them in case you are sick. (Ps, at these sizes, a teeshirt is like holding a tennis racket over your mouth....look it up)
When in doubt, put the mask on the sick person.
I do understand the particle size, etc. I know that a cloth mask will not protect from Covid. I have reached out to my sister, a CRNA for more direction in this arena. She will investigate and get back to me. I am stuck in my house and looking for ways to help. If I can help in this way (should that be a viable option) then I would like to do so. But thanks for your comment...
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hemihead said:
That’s a terrible plan, made by fear not rational thinking.
Keep people behaving the right way, prepare for a spike in cases that need medical help, and sure as hell don’t cut off your supply lines by digging trenches in anything.
This isn’t the zombie apocalypse....it’s a virus outbreak that can’t beat clean hands or living outside a host for a couple of days.
If that's the extent of the virus that will be great
The men up here mostly preppers have alternate routes and we also have first responders up here with a station full of emergency supplies
This is where others will come when their resources are exhausted off mountain
Guess you could call it fear based wisdom
That’s a terrible plan, made by fear not rational thinking.
Keep people behaving the right way, prepare for a spike in cases that need medical help, and sure as hell don’t cut off your supply lines by digging trenches in anything.
This isn’t the zombie apocalypse....it’s a virus outbreak that can’t beat clean hands or living outside a host for a couple of days.
If that's the extent of the virus that will be great
The men up here mostly preppers have alternate routes and we also have first responders up here with a station full of emergency supplies
This is where others will come when their resources are exhausted off mountain
Guess you could call it fear based wisdom
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Ahavati said:
Children are old enough to know when they ask. You may have to talk in apples & oranges terms. . .if they aren't asking, then live as normally as possible. Even if they do ask, live as normally as possible - keep to your routines as much as possible, incorporating social distancing, of course.
My grandson wanted to go to the public park this week, and I had to explain to him why he could not. He was fine with that. He now fully understands this is not a vacation from school; this is a required measure. Like most adults, it had to affect him personally e.g. - no park, Chuck E. Cheese, Putt Putt, etc. Those may sound petty to us; however, they are big to children.
Can't argue with any of that!
I'm freaking out for the service industry. Dinosaurs.. many. 😭
Children are old enough to know when they ask. You may have to talk in apples & oranges terms. . .if they aren't asking, then live as normally as possible. Even if they do ask, live as normally as possible - keep to your routines as much as possible, incorporating social distancing, of course.
My grandson wanted to go to the public park this week, and I had to explain to him why he could not. He was fine with that. He now fully understands this is not a vacation from school; this is a required measure. Like most adults, it had to affect him personally e.g. - no park, Chuck E. Cheese, Putt Putt, etc. Those may sound petty to us; however, they are big to children.
Can't argue with any of that!
I'm freaking out for the service industry. Dinosaurs.. many. 😭
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The action, which involves closing the Garda College, Templemore, Co Tipperary, saw all 319 recruit gardaí at the college passing out on Friday morning at the college after effectively skipping the remainder of their training for now.
How very fuckin Irish of them to pass out before they even hit the beat
alright, that was me being juvenile. my apologies, please continue
The action, which involves closing the Garda College, Templemore, Co Tipperary, saw all 319 recruit gardaí at the college passing out on Friday morning at the college after effectively skipping the remainder of their training for now.
How very fuckin Irish of them to pass out before they even hit the beat
alright, that was me being juvenile. my apologies, please continue
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Ahavati said:
It's because they thought of HER health over their own desires to visit. #perspective
Yep!
The irony is they can't get tested because they have no proof they were exposed to someone who tested positive.
No, wait - that's not the ironic part.
Her husband works in a place that is making masks and ventilators.
It's because they thought of HER health over their own desires to visit. #perspective
Yep!
The irony is they can't get tested because they have no proof they were exposed to someone who tested positive.
No, wait - that's not the ironic part.
Her husband works in a place that is making masks and ventilators.
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