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Rew said:In case you missed it

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Grok estimated 75-85% likelihood that “Trump is a Putin-compromised asset, leaning toward the higher end” of that range.

“Well, if that’s good enough to fire somebody, Grok him up,” Kimmel said. “Because 85% is very high.



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I think we should also point out we haven't spent 8 million on making mice transgender..
Fun fact------->transgenic mice are not transgender mice..

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Mstrmnd1923 said:I think we should also point out we haven't spent 8 million on making mice transgender..
Fun fact------->transgenic mice are not transgender mice..


Right? Wasn't his statement a load of bollocks!

Here's a link to the truth if anyone desires to pursue it...

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/does-donald-trumps-transgender-mice-claim-have-teeth-govt-report-reveals-real-spending-figures-on-bidens-experiments/articleshow/118751376.cms?from=mdr

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So, clearly still, some people don't get it.

https://youtu.be/hA9qmOIUYJA?si=moswd_3W9x-xHL48

Here is an American laying it out in a clear and concise manner.


Here is a shorter one because...

https://youtu.be/AmZoJ1vKEKk?si=OUcIL5JQcDDTkwlj




Reality:

If you are a person who is upset the war in Ukraine is nearly over, or thinks Putun ordered an unprovoked attack on Ukraine, you were on the wrong side.  deal with that and come back a better person.

It is fact the war in Ukraine was perpetuated by "both" democrat and republican administrations

It is a fact that all the dead Ukrainians needn't have died were it not for "both" democrat and republican administrations

Another couple of million deaths at the hands of US ambition

fact

The stench of irony when the woke post "Slava Ukraine" is overpowering.


Happy Irish-American month


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poetAnonymous

As an American, I’m ashamed of the arrogance of Donald Trump & JD Vance. A meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office on Friday grew contentious, with Trump telling Zelenskyy that "you're not acting at all thankful" for the support his country had received from the United States, saying the Ukrainian leader had been disrespectful, and telling him, "you're gambling with World War III."

Zelenskyy came to Washington to sign a deal that would give the United States access to Ukrainian rare earth and critical minerals. Trump said the leaders would sign it at an afternoon event at the White House.

It was nothing but a bait trap to attempt to bully Zelensky into getting what they want. This is the patriarchy at its absolute worst. Nothing new for felon 47.

Slava Ukraine.

Image: Time Square
Photo by Anna Turchyn

https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-security-guarantees-trump-meeting-washington-eebdf97b663c2cdc9e51fa346b09591d

Dont like it, leave.....Seriously. Pack your shit and fucking go.
Have any of you that "stand with Ukraine" donated any of your own hard earned money, and/ or time?   Ill bet my own farm, thats a no. So stop with all your trying to be holier than thou and stfu. Until you either donate or simply go there and fight, youre a fucking poser.
PSA: Notice I never mentioned a certain persons name here.  Thats the key....
And honestly, I dont have to mention anyones name.....


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lepperochan said:So, clearly still, some people don't get it.

https://youtu.be/hA9qmOIUYJA?si=moswd_3W9x-xHL48

Here is an American laying it out in a clear and concise manner.


Here is a shorter one because...

https://youtu.be/AmZoJ1vKEKk?si=OUcIL5JQcDDTkwlj




Reality:

If you are a person who is upset the war in Ukraine is nearly over, or thinks Putun ordered an unprovoked attack on Ukraine, you were on the wrong side.  deal with that and come back a better person.

It is fact the war in Ukraine was perpetuated by "both" democrat and republican administrations

It is a fact that all the dead Ukrainians needn't have died were it not for "both" democrat and republican administrations

Another couple of million deaths at the hands of US ambition

fact

The stench of irony when the woke post "Slava Ukraine" is overpowering.


Happy Irish-American month



Wheres these facts?

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mysteriouslady said:poetAnonymous

As an American, I’m ashamed of the arrogance of Donald Trump & JD Vance. A meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office on Friday grew contentious, with Trump telling Zelenskyy that "you're not acting at all thankful" for the support his country had received from the United States, saying the Ukrainian leader had been disrespectful, and telling him, "you're gambling with World War III."

Zelenskyy came to Washington to sign a deal that would give the United States access to Ukrainian rare earth and critical minerals. Trump said the leaders would sign it at an afternoon event at the White House.

It was nothing but a bait trap to attempt to bully Zelensky into getting what they want. This is the patriarchy at its absolute worst. Nothing new for felon 47.

Slava Ukraine.

Image: Time Square
Photo by Anna Turchyn

https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-security-guarantees-trump-meeting-washington-eebdf97b663c2cdc9e51fa346b09591d

Dont like it, leave.....Seriously. Pack your shit and fucking go.
Have any of you that "stand with Ukraine" donated any of your own hard earned money, and/ or time?   Ill bet my own farm, thats a no. So stop with all your trying to be holier than thou and stfu. Until you either donate or simply go there and fight, youre a fucking poser.
PSA: Notice I never mentioned a certain persons name here.  Thats the key....
And honestly, I dont have to mention anyones name.....



Do you think any refugees got housed by the slava   Ukraine mob?


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lepperochan said:So, clearly still, some people don't get it.

https://youtu.be/hA9qmOIUYJA?si=moswd_3W9x-xHL48

Here is an American laying it out in a clear and concise manner.


Here is a shorter one because...

https://youtu.be/AmZoJ1vKEKk?si=OUcIL5JQcDDTkwlj




Reality:

If you are a person who is upset the war in Ukraine is nearly over, or thinks Putun ordered an unprovoked attack on Ukraine, you were on the wrong side.  deal with that and come back a better person.

It is fact the war in Ukraine was perpetuated by "both" democrat and republican administrations

It is a fact that all the dead Ukrainians needn't have died were it not for "both" democrat and republican administrations

Another couple of million deaths at the hands of US ambition

fact

The stench of irony when the woke post "Slava Ukraine" is overpowering.


Happy Irish-American month





I answered your previous post inferring that Rew and I were ignorant that you ignored. Who started the war and how it came about is OLD NEWS and was established in the now locked and hidden HCR threads. I've watched that video ( the long one, thank you very much ).

Ahavati said:

Okay, nice, hot cup'o tea and biscuit break ( first since 4:30 AM ). Much misunderstanding comes from the inability to view something or at least consider that we may not be viewing something from another's perspective; thus, may have a tendency to label their perspective as ignorant because it doesn't align with ours.

You're viewing through the lens of who perpetuated the Russia/Ukraine war and why it even exists, while Rew and I were focused on what war is metaphorically: a rapist of a country's sovereignty and innocent civilians of their lives, women of their rights, LGBTQ+ of their identities, and so on and so forth.

It's the classic matriarchal ( nurturing care ) vs patriarchal ( aggressive defense ) viewpoint. Astrologically, these can be described as characteristics of Cancer ( divine feminine ) and Aries ( divine masculine ).

One perspective is cause, the other effect.

[ . . . ]

While I understand Russia's viewpoint on constitutional breach, when does Ukraine get to become a sovereign nation out from under Russia's thumb? The inability to decide one's own country's direction or fate is not freedom but oppression, imho.

[ . . . ]

We're not ignorant [ as you called us ] because we choose to view things through a different lens, and neither are you. With that said, I am hoping this thread doesn't descend into the pits of labeling as the others have, only to see it closed and hidden.


Do you have any other narrative outside of who started the war? Or are you going to just keep repeating it every few pages in every political thread?

And in reference to agreements, what about the U.S.'s agreement with Ukraine regarding nuclear disarmament?

In January 1994, the U.S., Russia and Ukraine issued an historic Trilateral Statement that promised security assurances to Ukraine once the START I Treaty entered into force and Ukraine became a non-nuclear weapons state and a party to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Those steps were completed by the end of 1994, marking an unqualified success in the area of nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation. The last nuclear warhead left Ukraine on June 1,1996.

But the more important question is above. . .[W]hen does Ukraine get to become a sovereign nation out from under Russia's thumb? The inability to decide one's own country's direction or fate is not freedom but oppression, imho.


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OK, so if we are agree the Ukraine war is an American proxy.

Why are people upset an American president is putting an end to it ?

Your more important question was answered comprehensively in the long video you already watched. I'll try summarise it here for you:


Pre 2014 Ukraune was a sovereign 'neautral' nation.

US didn't like that.

2014 US regime change

Post 2014 Uktlraine pro-west (not neautral)

Those are the facts.


To have any kind of "self determination." Ukraine would first need to have a 'free and fair' election without any outside interference.

Russia will not let Ukraine be a western patsy

The west will not allow Ukraine to be  Russian patsy

It would appear neutrality was the best way for Ukraine to keep it's sovereignty intact.


What do you think yourself






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lepperochan said:OK, so if we are agree the Ukraine war is an American proxy.

Yes, we, or at least I agree. I can't speak for Rew. I am disgusted with American politics, especially during this regime for many reasons I won't go into in this post. It's moved waaaay beyond republican or democrat ( for me ) to the ultra-rich vs the poor, the sick, senior citizens, women's rights, LGBTQ+, etc.

Why are people upset an American president is putting an end to it ?

It's the WAY he's putting an end to it. Felon-47 is a fucking bully-bitch, and he thinks he can bully his way into anything. The way he treated Zelensky in the oval office was horrific. The man couldn't even finish a sentence.

Felon-47 is currently in the process of Canceling Legal Status For 240,000 Ukrainians Who Fled War With Russia so they can be deported.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/03/06/trump-planning-on-canceling-legal-status-for-240000-ukrainians-who-fled-war-with-russia-report-says/

Your more important question was answered comprehensively in the long video you already watched. I'll try summarise it here for you:

Pre 2014 Ukraune was a sovereign 'neautral' nation.

US didn't like that.

2014 US regime change

Post 2014 Uktlraine pro-west (not neautral)

Those are the facts.


But it wasn't answered. A sovereign country should be able to decide who they support and who they don't. Doesn't England, Ireland, and every other country in the world who is truly sovereign decide who they support and who they don't? If a country doesn't have the freedom to join an organization such as NATO ( this is not advocating for NATO ) or any other world organization, then they aren't free.

It seems like Ukraine doesn't have the option to join NATO like our countries do. That is not sovereignty.

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I think you're right and wrong


Sovereignty doesn't determine your right to join a club.you don't need to be a cohesive sovereign state to get an invitation/ induction to the club












Ahavati
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lepperochan said:I think you're right and wrong


Sovereignty doesn't determine your right to join a club.you don't need to be a cohesive sovereign state to get an invitation to the club


How does sovereignty not determine a country's right to be a part of an organization they desire to be a part of? If a country is restricted from membership, growth, or support in any way, that is not sovereignty. That's oppression.

It's not ME that wants the war to continue, it's Ukraine. Ukraine desires absolute sovereignty from under Russia's thumb.  And the United Kingdom, as well as many countries around the world, support that. When one country has the right to dictate what another country can or cannot do - who they can or cannot support, what they can or cannot join - then the latter country is not free: it's beholding to the former.

I, nor anyone in this thread, is supporting war or the killing of millions - we are supporting a country's desire and right for absolute sovereignty. The U.S., nor any other country, should have the right to dictate what Ukraine can and cannot do.

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