Trumps Indictment: Historical and Future Implications V
MidnightSonneteer said:I gotta wonder if MAGA and the Gaza Tankies are starting to rub each other's extremist Horseshoe theory boners, and it's safe to conclude that It's MAGA shooting at a Democrat campaign office...
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ballot-box-set-fire-west-coast-portland-oregon/story?id=115221030
https://apnews.com/article/ballot-drop-box-fires-portland-vancouver-60fea753ceb761624e6aba49f0e9dd99
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2024/10/24/ballots-damaged-phoenix-mailbox-fire/75824504007/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
In all that the only folks looking out for the American people's voting rights are the police and the F.B.I.
And what would the Gaza Tankies have us do, other than to stop our munition shipments to Assreal, to stop the genocide?
Nuke Tel Aviv?
I have my homework cut out!
Edit: I've actually read all the articles regarding the destruction of ballot boxes because I was attempting to discern which ( if any ) political party the man arrested was. There is not information I could find to determine that.
I find the Horseshoe theory interesting and would agree. I always used the "pendulum" effect, being both the radical left and right were equal in extremism. However, I like this term better.
In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. As they sat side by side, pouring out anathemas against "perfide Albion", I could not help exclaiming: "Voilà, comme les extrêmes se rencontrent!" ("See, how the extremes meet!")
I mean that is a perfect deduction.
Of course, it simply verifies that politics makes for strange bedfellows. . .
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ballot-box-set-fire-west-coast-portland-oregon/story?id=115221030
https://apnews.com/article/ballot-drop-box-fires-portland-vancouver-60fea753ceb761624e6aba49f0e9dd99
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2024/10/24/ballots-damaged-phoenix-mailbox-fire/75824504007/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
In all that the only folks looking out for the American people's voting rights are the police and the F.B.I.
And what would the Gaza Tankies have us do, other than to stop our munition shipments to Assreal, to stop the genocide?
Nuke Tel Aviv?
I have my homework cut out!
Edit: I've actually read all the articles regarding the destruction of ballot boxes because I was attempting to discern which ( if any ) political party the man arrested was. There is not information I could find to determine that.
I find the Horseshoe theory interesting and would agree. I always used the "pendulum" effect, being both the radical left and right were equal in extremism. However, I like this term better.
In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. As they sat side by side, pouring out anathemas against "perfide Albion", I could not help exclaiming: "Voilà, comme les extrêmes se rencontrent!" ("See, how the extremes meet!")
I mean that is a perfect deduction.
Of course, it simply verifies that politics makes for strange bedfellows. . .
Trump’s hatred of women is bolder and clearer than ever. There’s no turning back now, Republican misogyny has long lost the woman vote. See you next Tuesday, Donald.
https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1853104922998251964
https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1853104922998251964
Ahavati said:
I mean that is a perfect deduction.
Of course, it simply verifies that politics makes for strange bedfellows. . .
That last quote...
"In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. As they sat side by side, pouring out anathemas against "perfide Albion", I could not help exclaiming: "Voilà, comme les extrêmes se rencontrent!" ("See, how the extremes meet!")
It reminds me of the great moment in Shaw's...MAN AND SUPERMAN...where the aristocratic Englishman Tanner meets the Spanish brigand Mendoza...
The act opens in the Spanish Sierra Nevada, where Jack and Straker, having eluded the pursuing Ann, are seized by Spanish bandits dedicated to more equitable distribution of wealth. The bandit leader is the urbane Mendoza, a former waiter at London’s Savoy Hotel. His introduction, “I am a brigand: I live by robbing the rich,” is answered by Tanner: “I am a gentleman: I live by robbing the poor.”
And then they shake hands.
If you can read only one of his plays...MAN AND SUPERMAN...is the one to pick, but if one lacks the time, here is a review...
https://literariness.org/2020/08/02/analysis-of-bernard-shaws-man-and-superman/
I mean that is a perfect deduction.
Of course, it simply verifies that politics makes for strange bedfellows. . .
That last quote...
"In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. As they sat side by side, pouring out anathemas against "perfide Albion", I could not help exclaiming: "Voilà, comme les extrêmes se rencontrent!" ("See, how the extremes meet!")
It reminds me of the great moment in Shaw's...MAN AND SUPERMAN...where the aristocratic Englishman Tanner meets the Spanish brigand Mendoza...
The act opens in the Spanish Sierra Nevada, where Jack and Straker, having eluded the pursuing Ann, are seized by Spanish bandits dedicated to more equitable distribution of wealth. The bandit leader is the urbane Mendoza, a former waiter at London’s Savoy Hotel. His introduction, “I am a brigand: I live by robbing the rich,” is answered by Tanner: “I am a gentleman: I live by robbing the poor.”
And then they shake hands.
If you can read only one of his plays...MAN AND SUPERMAN...is the one to pick, but if one lacks the time, here is a review...
https://literariness.org/2020/08/02/analysis-of-bernard-shaws-man-and-superman/
Here's the best from Jon Stewart concerning MAGA...
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/dN9oVcr3998h66zg/
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/dN9oVcr3998h66zg/
November 3, 2024
Heather Cox Richardson
Nov 03, 2024
I’m home tonight to stay for a bit, after being on the road for thirteen months and traveling through 32 states. I am beyond tired but profoundly grateful for the chance to meet so many wonderful people and for the welcome you have given me to your towns and your homes.
I know people are on edge, and there is maybe one last thing I can offer before this election. Every place I stopped, worried people asked me how I have maintained a sense of hope through the past fraught years. The answer—inevitably for me, I suppose—is in our history.
If you had been alive in 1853, you would have thought the elite enslavers had become America’s rulers. They were only a small minority of the U.S. population, but by controlling the Democratic Party, they had managed to take control of the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court. They used that power to stop the northerners who wanted the government to clear the rivers and harbors of snags, for example, or to fund public colleges for ordinary people, from getting any such legislation through Congress. But at least they could not use the government to spread their system of human enslavement across the country, because the much larger population in the North held control of the House of Representatives.
Then in 1854, with the help of Democratic president Franklin Pierce, elite enslavers pushed the Kansas-Nebraska Act through the House. That law overturned the Missouri Compromise that had kept Black enslavement out of the American West since 1820. Because the Constitution guarantees the protection of property—and enslaved Americans were considered property—the expansion of slavery into those territories would mean the new states there would become slave states. Their representatives would work together with those of the southern slave states to outvote the northern free labor advocates in Congress. Together, they would make enslavement national.
America would become a slaveholding nation.
Enslavers were quite clear that this was their goal.
South Carolina senator James Henry Hammond explicitly rejected “as ridiculously absurd, that much lauded but nowhere accredited dogma of Mr. Jefferson, that ‘all men are born equal.’” He explained to his Senate colleagues that the world was made up of two classes of people. The “Mudsills” were dull drudges whose work produced the food and products that made society function. On them rested the superior class of people, who took the capital the mudsills produced and used it to move the economy, and even civilization itself, forward. The world could not survive without the inferior mudsills, but the superior class had the right—and even the duty—to rule over them.
But that’s not how it played out.
As soon as it became clear that Congress would pass the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Representative Israel Washburn of Maine called a meeting of thirty congressmen in Washington, D.C., to figure out how they could fight back against the Slave Power that had commandeered the government to spread the South’s system of human enslavement. The men met in the rooms of Representative Edward Dickinson of Massachusetts—whose talented daughter Emily was already writing poems—and while they came to the meeting from all different political parties, often bitterly divided over specific policies, they left with one sole purpose: to stop the overthrow of American democracy.
The men scattered back to their homes across the North for the summer, sharing their conviction that a new party must rise to stand against the Slave Power. They found “anti-Nebraska” sentiment sweeping their towns; a young lawyer from Illinois later recalled how ordinary people came together: “[W]e rose each fighting, grasping whatever he could first reach—a scythe—a pitchfork—a chopping axe, or a butcher’s cleaver.” In the next set of midterm elections, those calling themselves “anti-Nebraska” candidates swept into both national and state office across the North, and by 1856, opponents of the Slave Power had become a new political party: the Republicans.
But the game wasn’t over. In 1857, the Supreme Court tried to take away Republicans’ power to stop the spread of slavery to the West by declaring in the infamous Dred Scott decision that Congress had no power to legislate in the territories. This made the Missouri Compromise that had kept enslavement out of the land above Missouri unconstitutional. The next day, Republican editor of the New York Tribune Horace Greeley wrote that the decision was “entitled to just so much moral weight as would be the judgment of a majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room.”
By 1858 the party had a new rising star, the young lawyer from Illinois who had talked about everyone reaching for tools to combat the Kansas-Nebraska Act: Abraham Lincoln. Pro-slavery Democrats called the Republicans radicals for their determination to stop the expansion of slavery, but Lincoln countered that the Republicans were the country’s true conservatives, for they were the ones standing firm on the Declaration of Independence. The enslavers rejecting the Founders’ principles were the radicals.
The next year, Lincoln articulated an ideology for the party, defining it as the party of ordinary Americans defending the democratic idea that all men are created equal against those determined to overthrow democracy with their own oligarchy.
In 1860, at a time when voting was almost entirely limited to white men, voters put Abraham Lincoln into the White House. Furious, southern leaders took their states out of the Union and launched the Civil War.
By January 1863, Lincoln had signed the Emancipation Proclamation ending the American system of human enslavement in lands still controlled by the Confederacy. By November 1863 he had delivered the Gettysburg Address, firmly rooting the United States of America in the Declaration of Independence.
In that speech, Lincoln charged Americans to rededicate themselves to the unfinished work for which so many had given their lives. He urged them to “take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion, that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
In less than ten years the country went from a government dominated by a few fabulously wealthy men who rejected the idea that human beings are created equal and who believed they had the right to rule over the masses, to a defense of government of the people, by the people, for the people, and to leaders who called for a new birth of freedom. But Lincoln did not do any of this alone: always, he depended on the votes of ordinary people determined to have a say in the government under which they lived.
In the 1860s the work of those people established freedom and democracy as the bedrock of the United States of America, but the structure itself remained unfinished. In the 1890s and then again in the 1930s, Americans had to fight to preserve democracy against those who would destroy it for their own greed and power. Each time, thanks to ordinary Americans, democracy won.
Cont below
Heather Cox Richardson
Nov 03, 2024
I’m home tonight to stay for a bit, after being on the road for thirteen months and traveling through 32 states. I am beyond tired but profoundly grateful for the chance to meet so many wonderful people and for the welcome you have given me to your towns and your homes.
I know people are on edge, and there is maybe one last thing I can offer before this election. Every place I stopped, worried people asked me how I have maintained a sense of hope through the past fraught years. The answer—inevitably for me, I suppose—is in our history.
If you had been alive in 1853, you would have thought the elite enslavers had become America’s rulers. They were only a small minority of the U.S. population, but by controlling the Democratic Party, they had managed to take control of the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court. They used that power to stop the northerners who wanted the government to clear the rivers and harbors of snags, for example, or to fund public colleges for ordinary people, from getting any such legislation through Congress. But at least they could not use the government to spread their system of human enslavement across the country, because the much larger population in the North held control of the House of Representatives.
Then in 1854, with the help of Democratic president Franklin Pierce, elite enslavers pushed the Kansas-Nebraska Act through the House. That law overturned the Missouri Compromise that had kept Black enslavement out of the American West since 1820. Because the Constitution guarantees the protection of property—and enslaved Americans were considered property—the expansion of slavery into those territories would mean the new states there would become slave states. Their representatives would work together with those of the southern slave states to outvote the northern free labor advocates in Congress. Together, they would make enslavement national.
America would become a slaveholding nation.
Enslavers were quite clear that this was their goal.
South Carolina senator James Henry Hammond explicitly rejected “as ridiculously absurd, that much lauded but nowhere accredited dogma of Mr. Jefferson, that ‘all men are born equal.’” He explained to his Senate colleagues that the world was made up of two classes of people. The “Mudsills” were dull drudges whose work produced the food and products that made society function. On them rested the superior class of people, who took the capital the mudsills produced and used it to move the economy, and even civilization itself, forward. The world could not survive without the inferior mudsills, but the superior class had the right—and even the duty—to rule over them.
But that’s not how it played out.
As soon as it became clear that Congress would pass the Kansas-Nebraska Act, Representative Israel Washburn of Maine called a meeting of thirty congressmen in Washington, D.C., to figure out how they could fight back against the Slave Power that had commandeered the government to spread the South’s system of human enslavement. The men met in the rooms of Representative Edward Dickinson of Massachusetts—whose talented daughter Emily was already writing poems—and while they came to the meeting from all different political parties, often bitterly divided over specific policies, they left with one sole purpose: to stop the overthrow of American democracy.
The men scattered back to their homes across the North for the summer, sharing their conviction that a new party must rise to stand against the Slave Power. They found “anti-Nebraska” sentiment sweeping their towns; a young lawyer from Illinois later recalled how ordinary people came together: “[W]e rose each fighting, grasping whatever he could first reach—a scythe—a pitchfork—a chopping axe, or a butcher’s cleaver.” In the next set of midterm elections, those calling themselves “anti-Nebraska” candidates swept into both national and state office across the North, and by 1856, opponents of the Slave Power had become a new political party: the Republicans.
But the game wasn’t over. In 1857, the Supreme Court tried to take away Republicans’ power to stop the spread of slavery to the West by declaring in the infamous Dred Scott decision that Congress had no power to legislate in the territories. This made the Missouri Compromise that had kept enslavement out of the land above Missouri unconstitutional. The next day, Republican editor of the New York Tribune Horace Greeley wrote that the decision was “entitled to just so much moral weight as would be the judgment of a majority of those congregated in any Washington bar-room.”
By 1858 the party had a new rising star, the young lawyer from Illinois who had talked about everyone reaching for tools to combat the Kansas-Nebraska Act: Abraham Lincoln. Pro-slavery Democrats called the Republicans radicals for their determination to stop the expansion of slavery, but Lincoln countered that the Republicans were the country’s true conservatives, for they were the ones standing firm on the Declaration of Independence. The enslavers rejecting the Founders’ principles were the radicals.
The next year, Lincoln articulated an ideology for the party, defining it as the party of ordinary Americans defending the democratic idea that all men are created equal against those determined to overthrow democracy with their own oligarchy.
In 1860, at a time when voting was almost entirely limited to white men, voters put Abraham Lincoln into the White House. Furious, southern leaders took their states out of the Union and launched the Civil War.
By January 1863, Lincoln had signed the Emancipation Proclamation ending the American system of human enslavement in lands still controlled by the Confederacy. By November 1863 he had delivered the Gettysburg Address, firmly rooting the United States of America in the Declaration of Independence.
In that speech, Lincoln charged Americans to rededicate themselves to the unfinished work for which so many had given their lives. He urged them to “take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion, that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
In less than ten years the country went from a government dominated by a few fabulously wealthy men who rejected the idea that human beings are created equal and who believed they had the right to rule over the masses, to a defense of government of the people, by the people, for the people, and to leaders who called for a new birth of freedom. But Lincoln did not do any of this alone: always, he depended on the votes of ordinary people determined to have a say in the government under which they lived.
In the 1860s the work of those people established freedom and democracy as the bedrock of the United States of America, but the structure itself remained unfinished. In the 1890s and then again in the 1930s, Americans had to fight to preserve democracy against those who would destroy it for their own greed and power. Each time, thanks to ordinary Americans, democracy won.
Cont below
Cont from above
Now it is our turn.
In our era the same struggle has resurfaced. A small group of leaders has rejected the idea that all people are created equal and seeks to destroy our democracy in order to install themselves into permanent power.
And just as our forebears did, Americans have reached for whatever tools we have at hand to build new coalitions across the nation to push back. After decades in which ordinary people had come to believe they had little political power, they have mobilized to defend American democracy and—with an electorate that now includes women and Black Americans and Brown Americans—have discovered they are strong.
On November 5 we will find out just how strong we are. We will each choose on which side of the historical ledger to record our names. On the one hand, we can stand with those throughout our history who maintained that some people were better than others and had the right to rule; on the other, we can list our names on the side of those from our past who defended democracy and, by doing so, guarantee that American democracy reaches into the future.
I have had hope in these dark days because I look around at the extraordinary movement that has built in this country over the past several years, and it looks to me like the revolution of the 1850s that gave America a new birth of freedom.
As always, the outcome is in our hands.
“Fellow-citizens,” Lincoln reminded his colleagues, “we cannot escape history. We…will be remembered in spite of ourselves.”
–-
Notes: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-3-2024
Now it is our turn.
In our era the same struggle has resurfaced. A small group of leaders has rejected the idea that all people are created equal and seeks to destroy our democracy in order to install themselves into permanent power.
And just as our forebears did, Americans have reached for whatever tools we have at hand to build new coalitions across the nation to push back. After decades in which ordinary people had come to believe they had little political power, they have mobilized to defend American democracy and—with an electorate that now includes women and Black Americans and Brown Americans—have discovered they are strong.
On November 5 we will find out just how strong we are. We will each choose on which side of the historical ledger to record our names. On the one hand, we can stand with those throughout our history who maintained that some people were better than others and had the right to rule; on the other, we can list our names on the side of those from our past who defended democracy and, by doing so, guarantee that American democracy reaches into the future.
I have had hope in these dark days because I look around at the extraordinary movement that has built in this country over the past several years, and it looks to me like the revolution of the 1850s that gave America a new birth of freedom.
As always, the outcome is in our hands.
“Fellow-citizens,” Lincoln reminded his colleagues, “we cannot escape history. We…will be remembered in spite of ourselves.”
–-
Notes: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-3-2024
Ahavati said:In 2017, an Arizona artist refused to take down Nazi Donald Trump billboard even after death threats. Owner says the picture will remain up as long as he remained president—and it did.
Ignore the polls. Get out and VOTE.
MAGA is a party of wedge issue vigilantes...
https://globalextremism.org/post/online-chatter-election-contains-signs-for-violence/
Ignore the polls. Get out and VOTE.
MAGA is a party of wedge issue vigilantes...
https://globalextremism.org/post/online-chatter-election-contains-signs-for-violence/
Here we go.
Security fencing goes up around White House, Capitol, VP residence
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4969264-security-fencing-goes-up-around-white-house-capitol-vp-residence/amp/
Security fencing goes up around White House, Capitol, VP residence
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4969264-security-fencing-goes-up-around-white-house-capitol-vp-residence/amp/
MidnightSonneteer said:
MAGA is a party of wedge issue vigilantes...
https://globalextremism.org/post/online-chatter-election-contains-signs-for-violence/
This is insanity. Pure insanity.
Looks to me like Toady Trump CAUSED the Gaza genocide...
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-war-peace-reelection_n_67253ab1e4b01f6919da0e69
Bernie knows Kamala is much more likely to change U.S. Gaza policy than Trump...
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-gaza-harris-trump-video/
Global right wingers take one on the chin...from a lady...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7w9dglzzlo
And Seth Meyers just for laughs...
https://youtu.be/7977j4dfBxk?si=l1WdHtTA-ZiUyWJw
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-war-peace-reelection_n_67253ab1e4b01f6919da0e69
Bernie knows Kamala is much more likely to change U.S. Gaza policy than Trump...
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-gaza-harris-trump-video/
Global right wingers take one on the chin...from a lady...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7w9dglzzlo
And Seth Meyers just for laughs...
https://youtu.be/7977j4dfBxk?si=l1WdHtTA-ZiUyWJw
MidnightSonneteer said:
Global right wingers take one on the chin...from a lady...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7w9dglzzlo
ABSOLUTE LOVE!
Global right wingers take one on the chin...from a lady...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7w9dglzzlo
ABSOLUTE LOVE!
