Is the World Safe for Conversation Anymore?
cold_fusion said:Yes the virtual world is free and mostly (sadly though) still consequence free to have a 'conversation' aka exchange of all sorts of ideas, remote, obscure and even alternate facts.
Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.
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Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.
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Noble_Incubus said:
You seem to be confused. The constitution grants sovereignty to the states and the associated powers that come with that, including the ability to change or make new laws. In other words the states changing voting rules is allowed by the constitution.
Of course they can change the laws but only through the legislature. Which didn’t happen. They did an end-run around them. Illegal move.
You seem to be confused. The constitution grants sovereignty to the states and the associated powers that come with that, including the ability to change or make new laws. In other words the states changing voting rules is allowed by the constitution.
Of course they can change the laws but only through the legislature. Which didn’t happen. They did an end-run around them. Illegal move.
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Noble_Incubus said:
Interesting! Are you able to elaborate?
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/520901/gotopost/
Interesting! Are you able to elaborate?
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/520901/gotopost/
cold_fusion said:Yes the virtual world is free and mostly (sadly though) still consequence free to have a 'conversation' aka exchange of all sorts of ideas, remote, obscure and even alternate facts.
Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.
You seem to be describing emotional safety. I didn’t even consider that.
I’m referring to private citizens using the state as in Nazi Germany to label citizens as terrorists according to their political hate. We have the infrastructure against citizens - more and more.
Just referring to the OP.
Conspiracy theories, their origins and all are free to be discussed and yes I find it absolutely safe in many corners of the internet,DU being just one. Like this thread right here, Where without any solid proof anything and everything is being claimed.
How many times have those theories been debunked does not matter.
Yes the internet is a giant echo chamber, you want to find something that is palatable to your liking you will absolutely find it. Example you are anti vaxer , there you go heaps of sources available to 'prove'( to your bias) you're right everyone is wrong.
Want to find voices agreeing with you that the world is flat...yes it is absolutely flat,big group there too. You're anti Semitic...come find us on the Telegram bro. You're anti-immigrant? There heaps of 'experts' out there to help you out.
You're anti-abortion- the religious right will welcome you with a red carpet. And there's no dearth of experts and theologist s and all to help you and protect you from the death dealers. Same goes for the paedophiles and drug smugglers.
Just because you find a group that agrees with you doesn't mean the Earth will have to become flat. Yes on the internet it is safe to have a conversation. Just being called out for blatant and life endangering lies is the only consequence I see. But those that are calling out can be attacked instead with all sorts of name calling and all.
You seem to be describing emotional safety. I didn’t even consider that.
I’m referring to private citizens using the state as in Nazi Germany to label citizens as terrorists according to their political hate. We have the infrastructure against citizens - more and more.
EdibleWords said:
You seem to be describing emotional safety. I didn’t even consider that.
I’m referring to private citizens using the state as in Nazi Germany to label citizens as terrorists according to their political hate. We have the infrastructure against citizens - more and more.
Safety is safety. Emotional is just one part. There are nations in this world where one sentence online that's against the establishment will ensure you're hounded by the administration via their security apparatus as well as the psychophant troll army. Take for example many South and South East Asian countries or the middle east,where what you say or do online will pretty much ensure or endanger your RL safety.
Well...I'll give you an example of what you're talking about happening right now, today in an apparently free and fair democratic country. The fascism leaning administration in India is doing exactly the same, it's troll army labelling anyone who disagrees or shows ANY dissent is labelled as anti-national or worse terrorist. The latest group is the protesting farmers. They're being labelled as terrorists by the government propaganda machine. There's heaps of autocratic nations going by the same playbook.
So,coming back to the point, I meant all kinds of safety not just emotional.
You seem to be describing emotional safety. I didn’t even consider that.
I’m referring to private citizens using the state as in Nazi Germany to label citizens as terrorists according to their political hate. We have the infrastructure against citizens - more and more.
Safety is safety. Emotional is just one part. There are nations in this world where one sentence online that's against the establishment will ensure you're hounded by the administration via their security apparatus as well as the psychophant troll army. Take for example many South and South East Asian countries or the middle east,where what you say or do online will pretty much ensure or endanger your RL safety.
Well...I'll give you an example of what you're talking about happening right now, today in an apparently free and fair democratic country. The fascism leaning administration in India is doing exactly the same, it's troll army labelling anyone who disagrees or shows ANY dissent is labelled as anti-national or worse terrorist. The latest group is the protesting farmers. They're being labelled as terrorists by the government propaganda machine. There's heaps of autocratic nations going by the same playbook.
So,coming back to the point, I meant all kinds of safety not just emotional.
Noble_Incubus said:
If you are referring to the legal actions by Rudy Giuliani he didn’t put forward any evidence. It was just a dog and pony show to give the appearance that these matters were being debated in the courts when in reality they had no evidence to present. It was a waste of the court’s time and not a single judge fell for it: conservative or liberal. But Giuliani’s ploy was somewhat successful, he played you for a sucker for instance. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
As for the 2016 election, of course it wasn’t stolen. Neither was the 2020 election. The lesson here is that it doesn’t matter where a conspiracy theory originates from, left or right is irrelevant, they are still a pack of lies.
Leftist debating 101
Step one : Call everything you disagree with a lie
Step two : Laugh to the sky because everyone is else is a sucker for not following the establishment
Step three : Fall for everything, believe in nothing, sit in the shade on the mental plantation...
You win buddy. Jim Crow Biden got 82 million votes. And the moon is made of cheese wiz.
https://youtu.be/PkYT4ipyXLo
I almost spit out me teethfs! This vid was so goddamn awesome...Along with DiSantis telling dementia Biden "to go fuck yourself".... It was almost worth the last four years of democrat fuckery. But still not. Sorry, this post is off topic. I thought a belly laugh for the anti establishment crowd would be nice...
This one might upset the ones over on the "Un-information (The fact chinese checkers club) thread.
I almost spit out me teethfs! This vid was so goddamn awesome...Along with DiSantis telling dementia Biden "to go fuck yourself".... It was almost worth the last four years of democrat fuckery. But still not. Sorry, this post is off topic. I thought a belly laugh for the anti establishment crowd would be nice...
This one might upset the ones over on the "Un-information (The fact chinese checkers club) thread.
runaway-mindtrain said:https://youtu.be/PkYT4ipyXLo
I almost spit out me teethfs! This vid was so goddamn awesome...Along with DiSantis telling dementia Biden "to go fuck yourself".... It was almost worth the last four years of democrat fuckery. But still not. Sorry, this post is off topic. I thought a belly laugh for the anti establishment crowd would be nice...
This one might upset the ones over on the "Un-information (The fact chinese checkers club) thread.
That was awesome! My husband and I both had some laughs!
I almost spit out me teethfs! This vid was so goddamn awesome...Along with DiSantis telling dementia Biden "to go fuck yourself".... It was almost worth the last four years of democrat fuckery. But still not. Sorry, this post is off topic. I thought a belly laugh for the anti establishment crowd would be nice...
This one might upset the ones over on the "Un-information (The fact chinese checkers club) thread.
That was awesome! My husband and I both had some laughs!
cold_fusion said:
Safety is safety. Emotional is just one part. There are nations in this world where one sentence online that's against the establishment will ensure you're hounded by the administration via their security apparatus as well as the psychophant troll army. Take for example many South and South East Asian countries or the middle east,where what you say or do online will pretty much ensure or endanger your RL safety.
People are talking and acting pretty aggressively towards Republicans in America, too. I don’t know if I want to inspire evil minds by posting examples of what I’ve seen online.
Well...I'll give you an example of what you're talking about happening right now, today in an apparently free and fair democratic country. The fascism leaning administration in India is doing exactly the same, it's troll army labelling anyone who disagrees or shows ANY dissent is labelled as anti-national or worse terrorist. The latest group is the protesting farmers. They're being labelled as terrorists by the government propaganda machine. There's heaps of autocratic nations going by the same playbook.
So,coming back to the point, I meant all kinds of safety not just emotional.
The farm protests are manufactured and enhanced by the globalists and Greta accidentally exposed the whole operation.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/greta-thunberg-faces-probe-in-india-over-farm-protest-tweets/
Do you think power brokers are happy with India right now? Wouldn’t they like to destabilize their enemies to the global advancements of their powers?
runaway-mindtrain said:
Leftist debating 101
Step one : Call everything you disagree with a lie
Step two : Laugh to the sky because everyone is else is a sucker for not following the establishment
Step three : Fall for everything, believe in nothing, sit in the shade on the mental plantation...
You win buddy. Jim Crow Biden got 82 million votes. And the moon is made of cheese wiz.
What a rambling load of garbage.
Leftist debating 101
Step one : Call everything you disagree with a lie
Step two : Laugh to the sky because everyone is else is a sucker for not following the establishment
Step three : Fall for everything, believe in nothing, sit in the shade on the mental plantation...
You win buddy. Jim Crow Biden got 82 million votes. And the moon is made of cheese wiz.
What a rambling load of garbage.
EdibleWords said:
The farm protests are manufactured and enhanced by the globalists and Greta accidentally exposed the whole operation.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/greta-thunberg-faces-probe-in-india-over-farm-protest-tweets/
Do you think power brokers are happy with India right now? Wouldn’t they like to destabilize their enemies to the global advancements of their powers?
Really? can you please elaborate? Because I've been following them closer than you think.
And also with any iota of objectivity if one read this article,it will become abundantly clear the very threats of authoritarianism towards free speech this thread is talking about.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/disha-ravis-arrest-triggers-outrage-completely-atrocious-2370576
And btw Greta Thunberg is NOT facing any criminal probe in India.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/fir-over-toolkit-tweeted-by-greta-thunberg-shes-not-named-police-2363264
It runs both ways the danger of accidentally inspiring 'passionate' activists.
And btw what do you think of the dangers the Hong Kong pro democracy activists are facing from the so called National Security law imposed on them by their Beijing based rulers?
The farm protests are manufactured and enhanced by the globalists and Greta accidentally exposed the whole operation.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/04/greta-thunberg-faces-probe-in-india-over-farm-protest-tweets/
Do you think power brokers are happy with India right now? Wouldn’t they like to destabilize their enemies to the global advancements of their powers?
Really?
can you please elaborate? Because I've been following them closer than you think. And also with any iota of objectivity if one read this article,it will become abundantly clear the very threats of authoritarianism towards free speech this thread is talking about.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/disha-ravis-arrest-triggers-outrage-completely-atrocious-2370576
And btw Greta Thunberg is NOT facing any criminal probe in India.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/fir-over-toolkit-tweeted-by-greta-thunberg-shes-not-named-police-2363264
It runs both ways the danger of accidentally inspiring 'passionate' activists.
And btw what do you think of the dangers the Hong Kong pro democracy activists are facing from the so called National Security law imposed on them by their Beijing based rulers?
