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Ahavati said:I ran across the above image while doing some research this morning. This is 1961, and Red Foxx and Eartha Kitt attended a rally in New York for the Freedom Fighters in Birmingham, Alabama. Red was asked to give a speech, and when he began quoting from Genesis he broke down with emotion due to the injustice.  

Almost 60 years later, there has been change; but, not enough. We still have a long way to go in this fight; however, I hope 60 years from now, when my G'precious is an old man, he will be able to see just how far we've come to the point of asking himself if that old world truly existed at all.


Ahavati, this is so incredibly moving,
These are the images that make it difficult for me to carry on it will effect the rest of my day.  The absolute jarring emotion that leaps out of this photograph is unforgettable
I will absorb, process, use what I can for growth and keep moving forward towards change
We feel we are helping, protecting our children when we shelter them from life's storms,
By not allowing them to see the struggles and trials that others overcome or endure rob's them of the opportunity to experience humanity from every angle . I am living proof .

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Can anyone explain why abolitionist and Quaker statues are being destroyed?

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JohnnyBlaze said:

Amen to that.


🙏💖


Valeriyabeyond said:

Ahavati, this is so incredibly moving,
These are the images that make it difficult for me to carry on it will effect the rest of my day.  The absolute jarring emotion that leaps out of this photograph is unforgettable
I will absorb, process, use what I can for growth and keep moving forward towards change
We feel we are helping, protecting our children when we shelter them from life's storms,
By not allowing them to see the struggles and trials that others overcome or endure rob's them of the opportunity to experience humanity from every angle . I am living proof .


It is a very powerful photograph, Val. It struck me when I saw it. I have seen hundreds, probably thousands of civil rights photographs; however, I had never seen this one. It's difficult to imagine that he was such an emotional being when all I saw him as was Sanford growing up.

I don't know about where you live ( or lived ) growing up, but down here in the south, you DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT. EVER. So it gets buried. I never liked that. I always sought for truth and was silenced. I always knew something wasn't right but I was silenced. The majority of children and adults are scary monsters when growing up.  But I will say that my parents were different. We still didn't talk about it, but I honestly believe that they didn't know themselves outside of their own personal experiences.

Neither were outwardly racist, and I was the only little girl allowed to babysit for an interracial baby, my mother citing that it was never the child's fault, and they shouldn't be faulted. I think, in looking back, I would've preferred she said something like, Love chooses us. But it is what it is, and we never talked about it.

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EdibleWords said:The slaves spoken in the above quote  of were the catholic people.

The historians who led me to history believed the Catholic Church was the reason for civil war and the reason Lincoln was shot. So I have to wonder,

🔥did a Jesuit write White Fragility?🔥

Catholics teach original sin. The book teaches inherited guilt.

The purpose is not holy, it’s to break up the union.

Morals don’t apply to Jesuits. They are absolved, even from ripping open the womb of a large pregnant woman in physical aggression.



At a Black Lives Matter protest in Cary, North Carolina, a white woman takes to her megaphone. “We repent on behalf of, uh, Caucasian people,” she shouts, as she calls upon the crowd to kneel before two Black pastors seated before them on a park bench. Several audibly weep as they bow in obeisance.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/26/welcome-to-the-neo-marxist-church-of-holy-wokeness/

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EdibleWords said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/26/welcome-to-the-neo-marxist-church-of-holy-wokeness/


East Germans were told the Berlin Wall existed to keep fascists out — even though all the killings by border guards involved East Germans heading West. Marxism promised a utopia, and that unsecured pledge sufficed to treat subjects like serfs bound to endlessly submit and obey. Anyone who tried to escape was treated as if they were stealing government property.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/05/05/karl-marx-communism-death-column/578000002/

That is a devastating remark and it is blunter than anything in his speeches or in Mein Kampf.; though even in the autobiography he observes that his own doctrine was fundamentally distinguished from the Marxist by reason that it recognised the significance of race - implying, perhaps, that it might otherwise easily look like a derivative. Without race, he went on, National Socialism "would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground". Marxism was internationalist. The proletariat, as the famous slogan goes, has no fatherland. Hitler had a fatherland, and it was everything to him. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

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I think it’s high time racists quit taking credit for slavery.

It’s class warfare, plain and simple.

Wake up.

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Also, what’s up with Irish “slavery?” Is there any interest in solving problems it caused? Downstream consequences and all; maybe it explains why my family was generally so poor.

Comparative Physiognomy," a book by James Redfield published in 1852, made comparisons between the facial structure of Irish people and dogs. Redfield went on to claim that, because of their appearance, the Irish had an animalistic character that made them cruel and cowardly.

"Among the Irish, the commonality take to dirt-digging more naturally than to anything else," Redfield wrote. "They are dirty in their persons, and admit pigs in their mud-cabins which they themselves occupy. They are good servants if you deal harshly with them, as a master does with his dog; but the moment you are disposed to be familiar with them they are all over you, jumping against you and laying their dirty paws upon your clean clothes, as if you were no better than they."


https://history.howstuffworks.com/historical-events/when-irish-immigrants-werent-considered-white.htm


My mom taught me we were a slave-combo race. “Black-Irish” meant a combo of two slave classes over time.

Related topic....

It would be easy for rich criminals to lie about their work status and keep recycling kidnapped Irish. Just a thought.


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If a woman’s father “created” her when he raped her mother, should she apologize to her mother for her father’s misogynistic attack?

Is she guilty of systemic patriarchy because she has a dick for a dad?

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And there ya have it.

Trump wears a mask during visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed

President Donald Trump paid a visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday and wore a mask after months of refusing to be seen doing so in public.

"I'll probably have a mask if you must know. I'll probably have a mask. I think when you're in a hospital especially in that particular setting, where you are talking to a lot of soldiers, people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear a mask. I've never been against masks but I do believe they have a time and a place," Trump told reporters ahead of his visit.

[ . . . ]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/11/politics/trump-walter-reed-visit-mask/index.html

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Ahavati said:And there ya have it.

Trump wears a mask during visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed

President Donald Trump paid a visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday and wore a mask after months of refusing to be seen doing so in public.

"I'll probably have a mask if you must know. I'll probably have a mask. I think when you're in a hospital especially in that particular setting, where you are talking to a lot of soldiers, people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear a mask. I've never been against masks but I do believe they have a time and a place," Trump told reporters ahead of his visit.

[ . . . ]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/11/politics/trump-walter-reed-visit-mask/index.html


I do wear mask in the dentist office. Medical places are different.

Public.... open air... why?

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Ahavati said:And there ya have it.

Trump wears a mask during visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed

President Donald Trump paid a visit to wounded service members at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday and wore a mask after months of refusing to be seen doing so in public.

"I'll probably have a mask if you must know. I'll probably have a mask. I think when you're in a hospital especially in that particular setting, where you are talking to a lot of soldiers, people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear a mask. I've never been against masks but I do believe they have a time and a place," Trump told reporters ahead of his visit.

[ . . . ]

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/11/politics/trump-walter-reed-visit-mask/index.html


Keep an eye out for new campaign commercials showing him wearing the mask.

I recently saw a new Biden commercial that showcased him as the all American Badass to appeal to Trump's base. It was superficially sad. Or sadly superficial. Both.

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JohnnyBlaze said:

Keep an eye out for new campaign commercials showing him wearing the mask.

I recently saw a new Biden commercial that showcased him as the all American Badass to appeal to Trump's base. It was superficially sad. Or sadly superficial. Both.


Both are demoralizing their bases.
If the Democrats win, it will be their biggest loss.

I think they should make Republicans wear the crown of shame this year. Get it out of their systems.

Then get a pro-life Democrat Prez... and thus devastate the conservative party for long time to come.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8515507/Young-mother-24-shot-dead-fianc-saying-lives-matter.html

Robert Doty, the victim's father, confirmed with the Daily Wire that his daughter said 'all lives matter' during the exchange.

Ramirez said both groups brandished guns at each other, but eventually talked through the issues, fist bumped and walked away from each other.



RIP Jessica.

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White House Correspondents' Association president worries briefings have become 'purely political

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/media/white-house-press-secretary-jonathan-karl-reliable/index.html

The White House press secretary typically plays a key role in informing the public about the policies and positions of the President. The secretary's salary is funded by American taxpayers.

But lately, press briefings held by White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany "have begun to look purely political," White House Correspondents' Association President Jonathan Karl told CNN's Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday.

Karl's comments follow an op-ed he published Saturday in the Washington Post titled: "It's the duty of the White House press secretary to hold briefings. But not like this." He said Sunday he is advocating for changes to the briefings before his tenure heading the Correspondents' Association ends this week.

The press secretary "has a job to inform the public by informing the reporters that the public uses to get information," said Karl, who has covered briefings under four presidents and 14 different press secretaries.

"The press secretary serves at the pleasure of the President, but this is a different job," he said. "She is not the spokesperson for a campaign, she is not the spokesperson for a political party. She is the spokesperson for the executive branch of the federal government of the United States. It is a different job, it is not a purely political job, and those briefings have begun to look purely political."

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Ahavati said:

I feel the same, Cab. You're an integral part of, as well as a driving force in realization through this discussion.  Thank you for agreeing to be an active and viable contributor. While I may have picked cotton and have lived in the Southern Bible Belt for decades, I wasn't taught the FULL  history I've needed to know in order to make a real difference that brings about true change.

You're part of that, and I thank you. 👊❤


Thank you, Ahavati.  First, we confront the issues by looking them straight in the eye.  That equilibrium between the looking and the seeing -- the moment of acknowledgeable eye contact -- is when change has a chance to begin.

I am grateful to have been given a voice in this forum.  Although my participation may not be as smooth, continuous, or integrative as that of others (due to personal limitations of time on task), I have hoped from the very beginning that I could raise matters integral to the general focus of the discussion and the robustness of the conversation.

What I have learnt is far greater than what I have shared.  Obviously, the benefits are mutual -- as will be any positive change to the madness that has persisted hitherto in our world.

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