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Spiritual Struggle a very human dialogue Amended
A simple seemly innocent with no malice intended question was asked, and this very human story unfolded. No one's right, no one's wrong, there is only thought and a spiritual struggle as old as humankind.
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Duke Deltree: Yeah!!!! HAPPY EASTER!!! Your God has risen.he walked among us... Or the Romans took him that night (they tended to do what they wanted) stuffed him in a olive jar (XL)
took him to Rome showed Caesar the dead king of Israel and then fed him to the fish... something like the new Rome (USA) did to Bin Laden... Children, history will repeat, time might pass,
but people don't.
Duke Deltree: Truth is feared, lies are loved, your silence assured.
Rick Boston Why in hell would the Romans have stolen Jesus' body ? The reason guards were posted was to ensure that his body would not be stolen so his followers could not claim he had risen.
Duke Deltree: Roman Guards they tended to do what they wanted, I doubt that they really cared I think to much immediate attention to this dead Jew's fate, it took thousand years and a
lot of blood to have reached any level of notice. Like everyone knew Jesus had came and went at all that lesson was taught at the point of a sword.
Rick Boston: Roman Guards tended to do what they were told to do, under pain of death if they disobeyed. I believe the followers of christ that were fed to lions would have strongly
disagreed with your assertion. The reason why Roman guards were placed at his tomb was by request of the Jewish priests who were aware of the belief that christ would rise from the
dead. They thought his followers would steal his body and claim he had risen, so to prevent that they had guards placed at the tomb.
Rick Boston: Followers of the teachings of Christ were tagged as Christians by the state, probably because they got tired of saying 'Followers of the teachings of Christ'. 200 years after
Christ's death christians were all but wiped off the face of the earth. Slaughtered, crucified, fed to lions. It was emperor Constantine that came up with the plan to fuse all the pagan
religions together under one church, which became the Roman Catholic Church. It was founded in blood, twisted the teachings of Christ, and is far removed from true christianity. You can
not blame christ for all the fools that have spilt blood in his name, which is something he never condoned.
Duke Deltree: What? stay on the point. What you have said doesn't have anything to do with my statement who said anything about lions? you did? your way off the subject.
Duke Deltree Believe if you can, some can't, reality based thought VS myth and conjecture .It's just way to far out for me. Real world time ok, if I was a BC sheep
herder it would be easy being dumb as a stick. My invisible friend that only I can see and who never lies told me all about it
Rick Boston: I was 'on point' as you say, I don't have to stick to your narrow parameters. You said it took thousands of years to have reached any level of notice, the christians being fed
to lions did not happen thousands of years after christ and I believed they noticed. 'The fool has said in his heart there is no God', are you a fool ? Reality based thought ? You gotta be
kidding. Roman guards smuggling Jesus' body to cesar in an olive jar?
Duke Deltree: Oh.. Your right I'm saved thanks, jeezy what could I have been thinking...Yeah nailed stabbed put in a hole rose up 3 days later appeared to some then ascended and and you
showed me the way. That fool scrip is wat did it. you told me. Wow! I'm saved
Duke Deltree: I guess I'm all done with Pathisiem now which believes in a living God.
Duke Deltree:'The fool has said in his heart there is no God'" "are you a fool ?" "Reality based thought ? You gotta be kidding." "I was 'on point' as you say" It's your ridicule based
christian styling of the scrip that saved me. Wow Thanks Rick.
Rick Boston: You are welcome...by the way there is no word in the dictionary for 'pathisiem' don't you mean pantheism ? I guess you are all done with pathisiem since it does not exist. Yes
I ridicule statements that belittle Christ, it's the way I roll. Happy easter.
Duke Deltree; Now your going to troll my spelling. Its like you to defend a weak position with more ridicule only serves to make you look like troll. Christen ethic? I can see how you glory
in this defend Christ thing you think their cheering for you, tell that pagan what Rick, Ha! The thing is never said a bad thing about Jesus. just his vessel being taken by the Romans, which
you have said is worthless cast it off no value. you can't have it both ways at your will. It's called free thinking with the mind given to ask or wonder freely. Curiosity to question not
darkness and submissive silence . I can see you don't have that problem, without a heavy blind hand of some better than I types using dogma and trolling to crush and ridicule free
expression of thought it's a old game republicans do it still and you hate them, Christen ethic?. It's plain to read that this will get us nowhere and I'm through with it as no wisdom is coming
from this. just a bitter nothing exits but my religion mentality and I think you would lead the mob to burn me given the day. Know this... my God loves you even if you are hot, lukewarm,
cold, or indifferent. Ok I'm done. :)
Rick Boston; You read way too much into what I said. You have freedom to say whatever you want, I also have the freedom to respond in kind. If you profess to be of a certain faith don't
you think it prudent to spell it correctly ? Your definition of trolling is not the same one I use. You called a Reality based thought ,the Romans took him that night (they tended to do what
they wanted) stuffed him in a olive jar (XL) took him to Rome showed Caesar the dead king of Israel and then fed him to the fish. The reality is Roman guards did what they were told, and
taking his body would have played into the followers hand by playing up the 'he has risen' which they were doing what they could to stop from happening. Your idea is irrational, sorry if
that offends you. Tough love. You assume too much by claiming to know what and who I hate.
Duke Deltree; I told you... I'm done with it, all I'm reading is the crying of a man with his dead religion trying to make it seem real. Your example's of Christianity has only served to
confirm my own direction of matters of faith.
Rick Boston: I'm not crying, sorry there is no reasoning with you. A bad idea is simply wrong, has nothing to do with faith
Duke Deltree: I thought it was a matter of strong faith that he had rose. You can't have it both ways
.
Rick Boston: You can't tell me how many ways I can have. I can have all the ways I want. The romans guarding the tomb were there to make sure no one would steal his body so they could
claim "the messiah rose on the third day' as it was written about in prophecies. There is no way in hell that they would have taken his body to ceasar so he could google it because that would
be in direct conflict of the whole purpose of their guarding the tomb. It's not a question of faith, it is a question of 'why would the romans defeat their own purpose of showing his rotting body 5 days later to prove he did not rise ?
Duke Deltree: I thought you said you went by no dogma?
Duke Deltree: Ha! Oh Rick you are entertaining hows much spelting getting bitter huh?
Duke Deltree: You can't tell me how many ways I can have. I can have all the ways I want. ha ha ha ! That's what I said...lol
Duke Deltree: the right to question wonder speculate an stuff like that there is reserved fer you only I see
Gut anymore doom to spread false story of end of the world to crush hope in the
human sprite hows much speltting fetenn better I owe it all to you i WILL LERNT 2 PELT LOLl YOU ARE FUN :)
Duke Deltree: But there's no reasoning with you... lol Ok gyn mi a few and I'll think of something knew for you to rail at.:) this is getting as old as the myth
Duke Deltree: I think were losing our audience and there's no attention!
Duke Deltree: HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Duke Deltree; You new when you came into this thread it was: echoing and reverb at beginning of reading this part...~NOW FOR MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook
Duke Deltree: We are ( the 10 voices in my head) happy to have you on the show Rick. maybe you might come back: echoing and reverb at beginning of reading this part...~NOW FOR
MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook : to entertain us agian sometime. Thank you all for watching... see you next time on: echoing and reverb at beginning of
reading this part...~NOW FOR MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook: Imagine end of show studio music... then cut that's a wrap put it in the can... let's go home.
lights go out with a clunk...and the people in their homes that had gathered around their minds to watch... look at each other smile and say that was a good show very thought provoking. I will be sure to watch next time.
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Duke Deltree: Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear. ~Thomas Jefferson~
Rick Boston: and there is a big difference between questioning and mocking, when someone mocks or belittles God it rubs me the wrong way...Happy easter
Duke Deltree: Yeah I hate that too!! Someone not that someone but a diffrent someone to be picked later by the secret police, or there's that word again should pass a law or something put a end to the madness of or, Free thought or questions, what if, or maybe the thought police 's time has come... maybe get a App. in you'd be perfect. I just said: or, this maybe that. as long as Ive known you you always touted free thought the right to wonder what if... and question But I can see that you have become darkened and subjugated to a honest question. There was no disrespect intended you filled that roll fairly well. Now unless there's some spelling errors or a grammatical mistake you can glory in. Belittle me, silence me, dominate my mind, stifle my questions you presume to much Sir... let it go.
George White: Atheists dont preach, ban religeon now
Rick Boston: dont push your darkness on me...Im all for free thought, and I have some free thoughts too, people that mock god suck...and atheist think people who believe in god suck...free thought, gotta love it...did you finally figure out how to spell pantheism...good for you.
Duke Deltree: If you thnk I've learnt to spelt.... you pressume to much! Siir! now your getting sad... hard thing to watch someone I care about victimized by themselves with piety, what happened to judge not least be judged? Anyway Isn't this a matter between your God and I, for what I've heard your God is good at these matters. I'm not sure he needs help. I know I don't need you to expel your vicious styling of Christianity as example or teachings, it distracts me from any salvation at all, if any. I've been told your God is quite merciful to the misguided soul that held no malice. You might take comfort in that. BTW I do like it that Atheist don't preach, don't you?
Rick Boston: That is where you are wrong, I have no religion, I belong to no faith. I have always been a truthseeker, period. So don't try to judge me with dogma that has nothing to do with me. I don't have faith, I have knowing. There is a world of difference between the two. Good luck with yours
Duke Deltree: And you with yours I hope it grows into somthing you can use in life Good luck and Happy Ester
~NOW FOR MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook
Duke Deltree: Yeah!!!! HAPPY EASTER!!! Your God has risen.he walked among us... Or the Romans took him that night (they tended to do what they wanted) stuffed him in a olive jar (XL)
took him to Rome showed Caesar the dead king of Israel and then fed him to the fish... something like the new Rome (USA) did to Bin Laden... Children, history will repeat, time might pass,
but people don't.
Duke Deltree: Truth is feared, lies are loved, your silence assured.
Rick Boston Why in hell would the Romans have stolen Jesus' body ? The reason guards were posted was to ensure that his body would not be stolen so his followers could not claim he had risen.
Duke Deltree: Roman Guards they tended to do what they wanted, I doubt that they really cared I think to much immediate attention to this dead Jew's fate, it took thousand years and a
lot of blood to have reached any level of notice. Like everyone knew Jesus had came and went at all that lesson was taught at the point of a sword.
Rick Boston: Roman Guards tended to do what they were told to do, under pain of death if they disobeyed. I believe the followers of christ that were fed to lions would have strongly
disagreed with your assertion. The reason why Roman guards were placed at his tomb was by request of the Jewish priests who were aware of the belief that christ would rise from the
dead. They thought his followers would steal his body and claim he had risen, so to prevent that they had guards placed at the tomb.
Rick Boston: Followers of the teachings of Christ were tagged as Christians by the state, probably because they got tired of saying 'Followers of the teachings of Christ'. 200 years after
Christ's death christians were all but wiped off the face of the earth. Slaughtered, crucified, fed to lions. It was emperor Constantine that came up with the plan to fuse all the pagan
religions together under one church, which became the Roman Catholic Church. It was founded in blood, twisted the teachings of Christ, and is far removed from true christianity. You can
not blame christ for all the fools that have spilt blood in his name, which is something he never condoned.
Duke Deltree: What? stay on the point. What you have said doesn't have anything to do with my statement who said anything about lions? you did? your way off the subject.
Duke Deltree Believe if you can, some can't, reality based thought VS myth and conjecture .It's just way to far out for me. Real world time ok, if I was a BC sheep
herder it would be easy being dumb as a stick. My invisible friend that only I can see and who never lies told me all about it
Rick Boston: I was 'on point' as you say, I don't have to stick to your narrow parameters. You said it took thousands of years to have reached any level of notice, the christians being fed
to lions did not happen thousands of years after christ and I believed they noticed. 'The fool has said in his heart there is no God', are you a fool ? Reality based thought ? You gotta be
kidding. Roman guards smuggling Jesus' body to cesar in an olive jar?
Duke Deltree: Oh.. Your right I'm saved thanks, jeezy what could I have been thinking...Yeah nailed stabbed put in a hole rose up 3 days later appeared to some then ascended and and you
showed me the way. That fool scrip is wat did it. you told me. Wow! I'm saved
Duke Deltree: I guess I'm all done with Pathisiem now which believes in a living God.
Duke Deltree:'The fool has said in his heart there is no God'" "are you a fool ?" "Reality based thought ? You gotta be kidding." "I was 'on point' as you say" It's your ridicule based
christian styling of the scrip that saved me. Wow Thanks Rick.
Rick Boston: You are welcome...by the way there is no word in the dictionary for 'pathisiem' don't you mean pantheism ? I guess you are all done with pathisiem since it does not exist. Yes
I ridicule statements that belittle Christ, it's the way I roll. Happy easter.
Duke Deltree; Now your going to troll my spelling. Its like you to defend a weak position with more ridicule only serves to make you look like troll. Christen ethic? I can see how you glory
in this defend Christ thing you think their cheering for you, tell that pagan what Rick, Ha! The thing is never said a bad thing about Jesus. just his vessel being taken by the Romans, which
you have said is worthless cast it off no value. you can't have it both ways at your will. It's called free thinking with the mind given to ask or wonder freely. Curiosity to question not
darkness and submissive silence . I can see you don't have that problem, without a heavy blind hand of some better than I types using dogma and trolling to crush and ridicule free
expression of thought it's a old game republicans do it still and you hate them, Christen ethic?. It's plain to read that this will get us nowhere and I'm through with it as no wisdom is coming
from this. just a bitter nothing exits but my religion mentality and I think you would lead the mob to burn me given the day. Know this... my God loves you even if you are hot, lukewarm,
cold, or indifferent. Ok I'm done. :)
Rick Boston; You read way too much into what I said. You have freedom to say whatever you want, I also have the freedom to respond in kind. If you profess to be of a certain faith don't
you think it prudent to spell it correctly ? Your definition of trolling is not the same one I use. You called a Reality based thought ,the Romans took him that night (they tended to do what
they wanted) stuffed him in a olive jar (XL) took him to Rome showed Caesar the dead king of Israel and then fed him to the fish. The reality is Roman guards did what they were told, and
taking his body would have played into the followers hand by playing up the 'he has risen' which they were doing what they could to stop from happening. Your idea is irrational, sorry if
that offends you. Tough love. You assume too much by claiming to know what and who I hate.
Duke Deltree; I told you... I'm done with it, all I'm reading is the crying of a man with his dead religion trying to make it seem real. Your example's of Christianity has only served to
confirm my own direction of matters of faith.
Rick Boston: I'm not crying, sorry there is no reasoning with you. A bad idea is simply wrong, has nothing to do with faith
Duke Deltree: I thought it was a matter of strong faith that he had rose. You can't have it both ways
.
Rick Boston: You can't tell me how many ways I can have. I can have all the ways I want. The romans guarding the tomb were there to make sure no one would steal his body so they could
claim "the messiah rose on the third day' as it was written about in prophecies. There is no way in hell that they would have taken his body to ceasar so he could google it because that would
be in direct conflict of the whole purpose of their guarding the tomb. It's not a question of faith, it is a question of 'why would the romans defeat their own purpose of showing his rotting body 5 days later to prove he did not rise ?
Duke Deltree: I thought you said you went by no dogma?
Duke Deltree: Ha! Oh Rick you are entertaining hows much spelting getting bitter huh?
Duke Deltree: You can't tell me how many ways I can have. I can have all the ways I want. ha ha ha ! That's what I said...lol
Duke Deltree: the right to question wonder speculate an stuff like that there is reserved fer you only I see
Gut anymore doom to spread false story of end of the world to crush hope in the
human sprite hows much speltting fetenn better I owe it all to you i WILL LERNT 2 PELT LOLl YOU ARE FUN :)
Duke Deltree: But there's no reasoning with you... lol Ok gyn mi a few and I'll think of something knew for you to rail at.:) this is getting as old as the myth
Duke Deltree: I think were losing our audience and there's no attention!
Duke Deltree: HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Duke Deltree; You new when you came into this thread it was: echoing and reverb at beginning of reading this part...~NOW FOR MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook
Duke Deltree: We are ( the 10 voices in my head) happy to have you on the show Rick. maybe you might come back: echoing and reverb at beginning of reading this part...~NOW FOR
MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook : to entertain us agian sometime. Thank you all for watching... see you next time on: echoing and reverb at beginning of
reading this part...~NOW FOR MADNESS CORNER~ Censored only once so far by facebook: Imagine end of show studio music... then cut that's a wrap put it in the can... let's go home.
lights go out with a clunk...and the people in their homes that had gathered around their minds to watch... look at each other smile and say that was a good show very thought provoking. I will be sure to watch next time.
A side bar
Duke Deltree: Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear. ~Thomas Jefferson~
Rick Boston: and there is a big difference between questioning and mocking, when someone mocks or belittles God it rubs me the wrong way...Happy easter
Duke Deltree: Yeah I hate that too!! Someone not that someone but a diffrent someone to be picked later by the secret police, or there's that word again should pass a law or something put a end to the madness of or, Free thought or questions, what if, or maybe the thought police 's time has come... maybe get a App. in you'd be perfect. I just said: or, this maybe that. as long as Ive known you you always touted free thought the right to wonder what if... and question But I can see that you have become darkened and subjugated to a honest question. There was no disrespect intended you filled that roll fairly well. Now unless there's some spelling errors or a grammatical mistake you can glory in. Belittle me, silence me, dominate my mind, stifle my questions you presume to much Sir... let it go.
George White: Atheists dont preach, ban religeon now
Rick Boston: dont push your darkness on me...Im all for free thought, and I have some free thoughts too, people that mock god suck...and atheist think people who believe in god suck...free thought, gotta love it...did you finally figure out how to spell pantheism...good for you.
Duke Deltree: If you thnk I've learnt to spelt.... you pressume to much! Siir! now your getting sad... hard thing to watch someone I care about victimized by themselves with piety, what happened to judge not least be judged? Anyway Isn't this a matter between your God and I, for what I've heard your God is good at these matters. I'm not sure he needs help. I know I don't need you to expel your vicious styling of Christianity as example or teachings, it distracts me from any salvation at all, if any. I've been told your God is quite merciful to the misguided soul that held no malice. You might take comfort in that. BTW I do like it that Atheist don't preach, don't you?
Rick Boston: That is where you are wrong, I have no religion, I belong to no faith. I have always been a truthseeker, period. So don't try to judge me with dogma that has nothing to do with me. I don't have faith, I have knowing. There is a world of difference between the two. Good luck with yours
Duke Deltree: And you with yours I hope it grows into somthing you can use in life Good luck and Happy Ester
Published 12th Apr 2012
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