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WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
I am too sad, my dearest West.
I do not gloat over your fate.
My precious West, l'm crying blood
as you were great and now you're not.
Look at yourself when you possessed
the faith that achieved past success.
You ruled the world and made advance
that now you look at and shed tears.
Where is that impetus to strive
and do something that can construct
the needed power you possessed
while now you look for selfish aims.
How can you live without that faith
which can produce your kids and strength
while men and women have their sex
through what will make them both extinct?
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
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I am too sad, my dearest West.
I do not gloat over your fate.
My precious West, l'm crying blood
as you were great and now you're not.
Look at yourself when you possessed
the faith that achieved past success.
You ruled the world and made advance
that now you look at and shed tears.
Where is that impetus to strive
and do something that can construct
the needed power you possessed
while now you look for selfish aims.
How can you live without that faith
which can produce your kids and strength
while men and women have their sex
through what will make them both extinct?
BY JOSEPH ZENIEH
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
____________________________________
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
Anonymous
13th Dec 2022 00:58am
Truth indeed.

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Re: Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 2:53pm
I don't see a" truth" being asserted here, especially if what is being claimed is that the West is in decline and does not make the particular (but unspecified and unreferenced) advanceS it supposedly made in the past because its people pursue sexual pleasure.
Will you please tell me what the "truth" is that you see that this submission speaks about?
Cue the claim that I have fiercely attacked you in asking you this question.
Will you please tell me what the "truth" is that you see that this submission speaks about?
Cue the claim that I have fiercely attacked you in asking you this question.
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 6:42am
Very dear O-H,
Thank you very much for your comment. It means a lot to me.
Thank you very much for your comment. It means a lot to me.
Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 10:54am
"Look at yourself when you possessed
the faith that achieved past success."
What "faith" was that?
the faith that achieved past success."
What "faith" was that?
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 11:16am
"men and women have their sex
through what will make them both extinct"
And what is it through which people engaged in making love will be made extinct?
through what will make them both extinct"
And what is it through which people engaged in making love will be made extinct?
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
"Where is that impetus to strive
and do something that can construct
the needed power you possessed
while now you look for selfish aims."
Is it really true that the reason the West was able to make the "advances" that you claim (without evidence) it no longer makes is because its aims were selfless?
and do something that can construct
the needed power you possessed
while now you look for selfish aims."
Is it really true that the reason the West was able to make the "advances" that you claim (without evidence) it no longer makes is because its aims were selfless?
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 7:57pm
Dear Baldwin,
You know better than l do. You are closer to their mentality if you really are a Westerner.
You know better than l do. You are closer to their mentality if you really are a Westerner.
Re: Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 8:05pm
So you really don't know. Thanks for confirming -- with another ad hominem -- what I thought was the case.
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
13th Dec 2022 9:22pm
I asked you about your nationality, but you preferred to keep it a secret. How can l know about it? Please tell me.
Re: Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
You didn't ask anything. What you wrote was a statement.
More importantly, I asked you a yes or no question -- which, not unexpectedly, you dodged.
Let's be clear. The issue at hand is NOT my nationality but whether you really know what you are talking about when you make a claim, as you did, about what the nature of the aims that the West had in the past was.
How your knowing what my nationality is has a bearing on whether your claim about what stood behind something that happened in history is true is beyond me.
Your claim is either true or false regardless of where I'm from.
And so I ask again: Is it really true that the reason the West was able to make the "advances" that you claim (without evidence) it no longer makes is because its aims were selfless? Or are you lying?
More importantly, I asked you a yes or no question -- which, not unexpectedly, you dodged.
Let's be clear. The issue at hand is NOT my nationality but whether you really know what you are talking about when you make a claim, as you did, about what the nature of the aims that the West had in the past was.
How your knowing what my nationality is has a bearing on whether your claim about what stood behind something that happened in history is true is beyond me.
Your claim is either true or false regardless of where I'm from.
And so I ask again: Is it really true that the reason the West was able to make the "advances" that you claim (without evidence) it no longer makes is because its aims were selfless? Or are you lying?
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
14th Dec 2022 10:45am
Dear Baldwin,
It is very important to me and to anyone else to know the person he is corresponding with. I asked you about your nationality, and your education several times, but you have kept them as military secrets whereas you know everything about me. I don't like this secrecy, especially if it is on purpose. It doesn't create confidence between me and the person l am corresponding with.
It is very important to me and to anyone else to know the person he is corresponding with. I asked you about your nationality, and your education several times, but you have kept them as military secrets whereas you know everything about me. I don't like this secrecy, especially if it is on purpose. It doesn't create confidence between me and the person l am corresponding with.
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Another dodge of my question. Besides that, the issue is the validity of your claim. It is either true or it is not. On this issue, who I am and where I'm from is irrelevant. How would knowing that help to determine whether you have spoken the truth?
Funny how you never ask what the nationality is of those who flatter you.
Funny how you never ask what the nationality is of those who flatter you.
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
14th Dec 2022 7:59pm
"It is very important to me and to anyone else to know the person he is corresponding with. "
No, it's not in any way important since knowing who it is who writes about whether your submissions are written well does not in any way determine whether what he/she says in this regard is valid.
No, it's not in any way important since knowing who it is who writes about whether your submissions are written well does not in any way determine whether what he/she says in this regard is valid.
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
5th Jan 2023 1:41pm
dear joseph
interesting
a myriad of dimensions
that brought thought here and there of the actress Mae West
silent lotus
interesting
a myriad of dimensions
that brought thought here and there of the actress Mae West
silent lotus
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Re. WAKE UP, POOR WEST!
5th Jan 2023 1:55pm
Very dear S.L.,
Thank you very much for your comment. I think serious poetry is not accepted and encouraged nowadays. Please keep in touch. People like you can give me gand encouragement.
Thank you very much for your comment. I think serious poetry is not accepted and encouraged nowadays. Please keep in touch. People like you can give me gand encouragement.