The COVID 19 Hoax
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By Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here and his book, 'Doctoring Data How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here.
As an NHS doctor, Ive seen people die and be listed as a victim of coronavirus without ever being tested for it. But unless we have accurate data, we wont know which has killed more: the disease or the lockdown?
I suppose most people would be somewhat surprised to know that the cause of death, as written on death certificates, is often little more than an educated guess. Most people die when they are old, often over eighty. There is very rarely going to be a post-mortem carried out, which means that, as a doctor, you have a think about the patients symptoms in the last two weeks of life or so. You go back over the notes to look for existing medical conditions.
Previous stroke, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, angina, dementia and suchlike. Then you talk to the relatives and carers and try to find out what they saw. Did they struggle for breath, were they gradually going downhill, not eating or drinking?
If I saw them in the last two weeks of life, what do I think was the most likely cause of death? There are, of course, other factors. Did they fall, did they break a leg and have an operation in which case a post-mortem would more likely be carried out to find out if the operation was a cause.
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I've just opened a box of expired PPE with a new date stuck on it. As an NHS doctor, I never used to believe in conspiracies...
Mostly, however, out in the community, death certification is certainly not an exact science. Never was, never will be. Its true that things are somewhat more accurate in hospitals, where there are more tests and scans, and suchlike.
Then, along comes Covid-19, and many of the rules such as they were went straight out the window. At one point, it was even suggested that relatives could fill in death certificates, if no-one else was available. Though I am not sure this ever happened.
What were we now supposed to do? If an elderly person died in a care home, or at home, did they die of Covid-19? Well, frankly, who knows? Especially if they didnt have a test for Covid-19 which for several weeks was not even allowed. Only patients entering hospital were deemed worthy of a test. No-one else.
What advice was given? It varied throughout the country, and from coroner to coroner and from day to day. Was every person in a care home now to be diagnosed as dying of the coronavirus ? Well, that was certainly the advice given in several parts of the UK.
As an NHS doctor, Ive seen people die and be listed as a victim of coronavirus without ever being tested for it. But unless we have accurate data, we wont know which has killed more: the disease or the lockdown?
I suppose most people would be somewhat surprised to know that the cause of death, as written on death certificates, is often little more than an educated guess. Most people die when they are old, often over eighty. There is very rarely going to be a post-mortem carried out, which means that, as a doctor, you have a think about the patients symptoms in the last two weeks of life or so. You go back over the notes to look for existing medical conditions.
Previous stroke, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, angina, dementia and suchlike. Then you talk to the relatives and carers and try to find out what they saw. Did they struggle for breath, were they gradually going downhill, not eating or drinking?
If I saw them in the last two weeks of life, what do I think was the most likely cause of death? There are, of course, other factors. Did they fall, did they break a leg and have an operation in which case a post-mortem would more likely be carried out to find out if the operation was a cause.
Also on rt.com
I've just opened a box of expired PPE with a new date stuck on it. As an NHS doctor, I never used to believe in conspiracies...
Mostly, however, out in the community, death certification is certainly not an exact science. Never was, never will be. Its true that things are somewhat more accurate in hospitals, where there are more tests and scans, and suchlike.
Then, along comes Covid-19, and many of the rules such as they were went straight out the window. At one point, it was even suggested that relatives could fill in death certificates, if no-one else was available. Though I am not sure this ever happened.
What were we now supposed to do? If an elderly person died in a care home, or at home, did they die of Covid-19? Well, frankly, who knows? Especially if they didnt have a test for Covid-19 which for several weeks was not even allowed. Only patients entering hospital were deemed worthy of a test. No-one else.
What advice was given? It varied throughout the country, and from coroner to coroner and from day to day. Was every person in a care home now to be diagnosed as dying of the coronavirus ? Well, that was certainly the advice given in several parts of the UK.
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y Dr Piers Robinson, who researches and writes about propaganda and communications. He is the author of The CNN Effect: The Myth of News, Foreign Policy and Intervention and Pockets of resistance: British news media, war and theory in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Follow him on Twitter @PiersRobinson1
Have сensorship of scientists, alarmist messaging and conspiracy theory smears all been used to reinforce the official narrative on coronavirus? Can these distortions ever be justified?
One of the problems with researching and writing about propaganda is that so many people believe it is something alien to democratic states.
What Edward Bernays, considered by many to be a key figure in the development of 20th-century propaganda techniques, said was that the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
Although we usually refer to these techniques by different names today, employing such euphemisms as public relations or strategic communication, it is a fact that techniques of manipulation are part and parcel of contemporary liberal democracies.
Although such persuasion activities can involve consensual techniques, they also frequently include less consensual techniques, involving forms of deception, incentivization and coercion. To what extent have such non-consensual methods of persuasion that is to say, propaganda been used with respect to Covid-19?
It has recently come to light that behavioural scientists have been providing advice to the UK governments Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). UK Column reports that this group, named the Scientific Pandemic Influenza group on Behaviour (SPI-B), was (re)convened on February 13, 2020.
One document produced by this group identifies options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures, which include persuasion, incentivization and coercion. In the section on persuasion it states that the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging. The document also mentions using media to increase sense of personal threat.
Military involvement
And it has also become public knowledge that the 77th Brigade, part of the British military, has been part of the Covid-19 communication strategy. 77th Brigade activities include information warfare and supporting counter-adversarial information activity, which includes creating and disseminating digital and wider media content in support of designated tasks.
Have сensorship of scientists, alarmist messaging and conspiracy theory smears all been used to reinforce the official narrative on coronavirus? Can these distortions ever be justified?
One of the problems with researching and writing about propaganda is that so many people believe it is something alien to democratic states.
What Edward Bernays, considered by many to be a key figure in the development of 20th-century propaganda techniques, said was that the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
Although we usually refer to these techniques by different names today, employing such euphemisms as public relations or strategic communication, it is a fact that techniques of manipulation are part and parcel of contemporary liberal democracies.
Although such persuasion activities can involve consensual techniques, they also frequently include less consensual techniques, involving forms of deception, incentivization and coercion. To what extent have such non-consensual methods of persuasion that is to say, propaganda been used with respect to Covid-19?
It has recently come to light that behavioural scientists have been providing advice to the UK governments Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). UK Column reports that this group, named the Scientific Pandemic Influenza group on Behaviour (SPI-B), was (re)convened on February 13, 2020.
One document produced by this group identifies options for increasing adherence to social distancing measures, which include persuasion, incentivization and coercion. In the section on persuasion it states that the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging. The document also mentions using media to increase sense of personal threat.
Military involvement
And it has also become public knowledge that the 77th Brigade, part of the British military, has been part of the Covid-19 communication strategy. 77th Brigade activities include information warfare and supporting counter-adversarial information activity, which includes creating and disseminating digital and wider media content in support of designated tasks.
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Dr Piers Robinson, who researches and writes about propaganda and communications. He is the author of The CNN Effect: The Myth of News, Foreign Policy and Intervention and Pockets of resistance: British news media, war and theory in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Follow him on Twitter @PiersRobinson1
Have Ńensorship of scientists, alarmist messaging and conspiracy theory smears all been used to reinforce the âofficialâ narrative on coronavirus? Can these distortions ever be justified?
One of the problems with researching and writing about propaganda is that so many people believe it is something alien to democratic states.
What Edward Bernays, considered by many to be a key figure in the development of 20th-century propaganda techniques, said was that âthe conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.â
Although we usually refer to these techniques by different names today, employing such euphemisms as âpublic relationsâ or âstrategic communicationâ, it is a fact that techniques of manipulation are part and parcel of contemporary liberal democracies.
Although such persuasion activities can involve consensual techniques, they also frequently include less consensual techniques, involving forms of deception, incentivization and coercion. To what extent have such non-consensual methods of persuasion â that is to say, propaganda â been used with respect to Covid-19?
It has recently come to light that âbehavioural scientistsâ have been providing advice to the UK governmentâs Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). UK Column reports that this group, named the âScientific Pandemic Influenza group on Behaviour (SPI-B)â, was (re)convened on February 13, 2020.
One document produced by this group identifies âoptions for increasing adherence to social distancing measures,â which include persuasion, incentivization and coercion. In the section on persuasion it states that the âperceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging.â The document also mentions using âmedia to increase sense of personal threat.â
Military involvement
And it has also become public knowledge that the 77th Brigade, part of the British military, has been part of the Covid-19 communication strategy. 77th Brigade activities include information warfare and âsupporting counter-adversarial information activity,â which includes âcreating and disseminating digital and wider media content in support of designated tasks.â
Have Ńensorship of scientists, alarmist messaging and conspiracy theory smears all been used to reinforce the âofficialâ narrative on coronavirus? Can these distortions ever be justified?
One of the problems with researching and writing about propaganda is that so many people believe it is something alien to democratic states.
What Edward Bernays, considered by many to be a key figure in the development of 20th-century propaganda techniques, said was that âthe conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.â
Although we usually refer to these techniques by different names today, employing such euphemisms as âpublic relationsâ or âstrategic communicationâ, it is a fact that techniques of manipulation are part and parcel of contemporary liberal democracies.
Although such persuasion activities can involve consensual techniques, they also frequently include less consensual techniques, involving forms of deception, incentivization and coercion. To what extent have such non-consensual methods of persuasion â that is to say, propaganda â been used with respect to Covid-19?
It has recently come to light that âbehavioural scientistsâ have been providing advice to the UK governmentâs Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE). UK Column reports that this group, named the âScientific Pandemic Influenza group on Behaviour (SPI-B)â, was (re)convened on February 13, 2020.
One document produced by this group identifies âoptions for increasing adherence to social distancing measures,â which include persuasion, incentivization and coercion. In the section on persuasion it states that the âperceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging.â The document also mentions using âmedia to increase sense of personal threat.â
Military involvement
And it has also become public knowledge that the 77th Brigade, part of the British military, has been part of the Covid-19 communication strategy. 77th Brigade activities include information warfare and âsupporting counter-adversarial information activity,â which includes âcreating and disseminating digital and wider media content in support of designated tasks.â
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Need I remind people this is mainly a thread for comedy, attempting to cheer us up - all posts are valid - but we have all the serious stuff 24 / 7. I would encourage you to write comedy posts and poems about conspiracy theories about the COVID Hoax
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Nothing to fear
Unlike the coronavirus, which came to light when people started to fall ill, G4 has been deliberately hunted out by armies of scientists. From 2011 to 2018, China has been running a major study to identify and classify new strains of flu among pigs, and find out which, if any, pose a threat of spreading among humans.
Of the 179 strains discovered in that period, the majority seem isolated to pigs. But a few show potential for infecting people, as suggested by experiments in ferrets, which experience flu similarly to humans. G4 caused the most serious symptoms in ferrets, and it could also replicate itself in human cells in the lab.
There is already an extensive amount of information available on this virus, which no one had heard of before this week. Over 10% of workers in the pig industry and up to 4.4% of the wider Chinese population are already infected, according to antibody testing. Additionally, over 20% of pig workers aged 1835 had antibodies, indicative of the virus adapting to humans.
The sample sizes for these tests were small, however; just a few hundred strong in total. Furthermore, the problems with antibody testing have been outlined here previously, and when it comes to strains of flu, they are likely to be exacerbated. How accurate and reliable would a test have to be to detect one among 179 variants of swine flu? And one could virtually guarantee that anyone working in a Chinese abattoir has been infected with swine flu at least once in their lives.
G4 is genetically descended from the strain that caused a pandemic in 2009. But that outbreak ended up being less dangerous than was initially thought; in fact, it killed no more people than an ordinary flu season. If G4 is anything like its 2009 ancestor, we have little to worry about.
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Massive protests? Crowded chain stores? No, its SMALL BUSINESSES to blame for post-lockdown Covid-19 spike, says MSM
Just a flu
You wouldnt know any of this from reading the agenda-driven MSM, though. While it is understandable that there is a hyper-focus on viral contagion these days, within hours, the flu strain with 'human pandemic potential' was already a trending topic on Twitter. Perhaps this is just the media landscape we live in nowadays.
Anyway, this report has given the Western media a shiny new hobby horse to jump on. They have been flogging the dead horse of coronavirus for weeks now, working with diminishing material, so in the quest for fresh virus news, this is manna from heaven. And the Western MSM is not known to look a gift horse in the mouth. Flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in China, warned the BBC. Terrifying NEW flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in pigs, shouted the Sun. New China virus has 'disastrous' potential and UK MUST be vigilant symptoms explained, wrote the Express.
In the early days of the coronavirus outbreak, doubters of the seriousness of the pandemic were scolded with the insistence that Covid-19 was not, by any means, just a flu. That being so, even if G4 does prove to be the next global pandemic, we should be able to rest easy that it is, after all, just a flu.
Unlike the coronavirus, which came to light when people started to fall ill, G4 has been deliberately hunted out by armies of scientists. From 2011 to 2018, China has been running a major study to identify and classify new strains of flu among pigs, and find out which, if any, pose a threat of spreading among humans.
Of the 179 strains discovered in that period, the majority seem isolated to pigs. But a few show potential for infecting people, as suggested by experiments in ferrets, which experience flu similarly to humans. G4 caused the most serious symptoms in ferrets, and it could also replicate itself in human cells in the lab.
There is already an extensive amount of information available on this virus, which no one had heard of before this week. Over 10% of workers in the pig industry and up to 4.4% of the wider Chinese population are already infected, according to antibody testing. Additionally, over 20% of pig workers aged 1835 had antibodies, indicative of the virus adapting to humans.
The sample sizes for these tests were small, however; just a few hundred strong in total. Furthermore, the problems with antibody testing have been outlined here previously, and when it comes to strains of flu, they are likely to be exacerbated. How accurate and reliable would a test have to be to detect one among 179 variants of swine flu? And one could virtually guarantee that anyone working in a Chinese abattoir has been infected with swine flu at least once in their lives.
G4 is genetically descended from the strain that caused a pandemic in 2009. But that outbreak ended up being less dangerous than was initially thought; in fact, it killed no more people than an ordinary flu season. If G4 is anything like its 2009 ancestor, we have little to worry about.
Read more
Massive protests? Crowded chain stores? No, its SMALL BUSINESSES to blame for post-lockdown Covid-19 spike, says MSM
Just a flu
You wouldnt know any of this from reading the agenda-driven MSM, though. While it is understandable that there is a hyper-focus on viral contagion these days, within hours, the flu strain with 'human pandemic potential' was already a trending topic on Twitter. Perhaps this is just the media landscape we live in nowadays.
Anyway, this report has given the Western media a shiny new hobby horse to jump on. They have been flogging the dead horse of coronavirus for weeks now, working with diminishing material, so in the quest for fresh virus news, this is manna from heaven. And the Western MSM is not known to look a gift horse in the mouth. Flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in China, warned the BBC. Terrifying NEW flu virus with 'pandemic potential' found in pigs, shouted the Sun. New China virus has 'disastrous' potential and UK MUST be vigilant symptoms explained, wrote the Express.
In the early days of the coronavirus outbreak, doubters of the seriousness of the pandemic were scolded with the insistence that Covid-19 was not, by any means, just a flu. That being so, even if G4 does prove to be the next global pandemic, we should be able to rest easy that it is, after all, just a flu.
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Abolish abortion
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It is nice to see
the chaff
separated
from the wheat
walking
on our streets
To see
Real people
With Common Sense
Logical
Reasoning
and those
people
Who Don't Have Any
the weak willed
the eager to please
no matter the cost
the
i believe the gods
on the screen
that i must obey
it will keep me safe
so i do
what I'm told
and wear a mask
and blame those
who don't
for being
Dangerously
Ignorant
HAHAHAHA
the chaff
separated
from the wheat
walking
on our streets
To see
Real people
With Common Sense
Logical
Reasoning
and those
people
Who Don't Have Any
the weak willed
the eager to please
no matter the cost
the
i believe the gods
on the screen
that i must obey
it will keep me safe
so i do
what I'm told
and wear a mask
and blame those
who don't
for being
Dangerously
Ignorant
HAHAHAHA