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Thoughts on Taoism
Convergence with Nature: A Daoist Perspective by David E. Cooper
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Enjoyable sophisticated account that avoids stereotypical characterisations like primitivism while explaining central concepts like Wu Wei ( Wu Wei is not passivity or apathy but spontaneity) , Dao( the way which opens the way to all other ways putting 'The' before it is wrong ) , Te( 'virtue' 'power'), and the Taoist opposition to dualism ( it does not reduce everything down to bits of some mushy whole or deny differences exist). Very rarely have I seen those treated in such a careful cautious attentive fashion. The passion the author has for Taoism is clear.
The author carefully argues with nuance the causes of ecological crisis re philosophical , religious, and political. However I was disappointed with the authors conclusion which was to cast doubt on the ecological crisis even occurring despite everything previously said and to suggest as a 'solution' withdrawal and lifestylism the author was right to say this cannot be automatically deduced fro Wu Wei. Instead the author says eco-activism would upset taoist concepts of Te of virtue and taoist 'impartiality'.
They argue that ultimately Taoism is about self cultivation so Taoists should stick with gardening and lifestyle changes as well as cultivating personal qualities , this is unsatisfying as far as I'm concerned. He does consider activism could follow fro Taoist principles but fails to explore that possibility, dropping previous rigour which has been present all through the book.
To me it seems obvious that if Taoism rejects the idea of the atomized self , if current society is untaoist, and if fulfilment of individuals can only come through a fulfilling society then it must be political.
If political activism conflicts with Taoism then maybe this is where Taoism ceases to be useful.
9 of out ten.
Things I like about Taoism
1.Opposed to dualism and Cartesian thinking esp mind vs body or human vs nature
2.pro human body pro pleasure pro nature pro animals
3.ideas and use of dialectics
4. quite ecological and anti-anthropocentric useful for green thinking
5. parallels and affinities with anarchist thinking - opposed to competition, opposed to war but not pacifist, opposed to prohibitions,opposed to aggression, opposed to consumerism, opposed to stereotypically macho traits , visions of better society are communal,local and peaceful , I don't think it can endorse or support capitalism since it is opposed to capitalist values , you cannot teach by rote learning or trying to convert but by practice and example, opposed to destroying the Earth, seems to fit with Green Communism,
6.talks of constant change
7.rejects idea of fixed self
8.goodness is not just following rules or rituals
9.not evangelical
10.non hierarchal in its earlier forms
11. Earlier Taoism was very grounded in the here and now very humanistic
12. To me superior to Abrahamic religions
13. Extremely profound
14.poetic
15.NOT primitivists
16. The Taoist sage or good person is very human
17.opposes excesses or over reliance on technology and science but is not utterly opposed to either
18. corrects lots of western modern thinking with better thinking
19.
Problems with Taoism
Possibly pointing to the limits of its usefulness I guess I'm ultimately a pragmatist first and foremost
1.Ethical : If Wu Wei is spontaneity and Wu Wei is good then does it follow that whatever is spontaneous is good and doesn't this risk endorsing paedophiles etc feels reluctant to judge which could risk relativism
2.Political : Is Taoism opposed to political activism and doesn't this mean it becomes a liberal philosophy betraying its principles and acting unwittingly to protect the existing order
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Enjoyable sophisticated account that avoids stereotypical characterisations like primitivism while explaining central concepts like Wu Wei ( Wu Wei is not passivity or apathy but spontaneity) , Dao( the way which opens the way to all other ways putting 'The' before it is wrong ) , Te( 'virtue' 'power'), and the Taoist opposition to dualism ( it does not reduce everything down to bits of some mushy whole or deny differences exist). Very rarely have I seen those treated in such a careful cautious attentive fashion. The passion the author has for Taoism is clear.
The author carefully argues with nuance the causes of ecological crisis re philosophical , religious, and political. However I was disappointed with the authors conclusion which was to cast doubt on the ecological crisis even occurring despite everything previously said and to suggest as a 'solution' withdrawal and lifestylism the author was right to say this cannot be automatically deduced fro Wu Wei. Instead the author says eco-activism would upset taoist concepts of Te of virtue and taoist 'impartiality'.
They argue that ultimately Taoism is about self cultivation so Taoists should stick with gardening and lifestyle changes as well as cultivating personal qualities , this is unsatisfying as far as I'm concerned. He does consider activism could follow fro Taoist principles but fails to explore that possibility, dropping previous rigour which has been present all through the book.
To me it seems obvious that if Taoism rejects the idea of the atomized self , if current society is untaoist, and if fulfilment of individuals can only come through a fulfilling society then it must be political.
If political activism conflicts with Taoism then maybe this is where Taoism ceases to be useful.
9 of out ten.
Things I like about Taoism
1.Opposed to dualism and Cartesian thinking esp mind vs body or human vs nature
2.pro human body pro pleasure pro nature pro animals
3.ideas and use of dialectics
4. quite ecological and anti-anthropocentric useful for green thinking
5. parallels and affinities with anarchist thinking - opposed to competition, opposed to war but not pacifist, opposed to prohibitions,opposed to aggression, opposed to consumerism, opposed to stereotypically macho traits , visions of better society are communal,local and peaceful , I don't think it can endorse or support capitalism since it is opposed to capitalist values , you cannot teach by rote learning or trying to convert but by practice and example, opposed to destroying the Earth, seems to fit with Green Communism,
6.talks of constant change
7.rejects idea of fixed self
8.goodness is not just following rules or rituals
9.not evangelical
10.non hierarchal in its earlier forms
11. Earlier Taoism was very grounded in the here and now very humanistic
12. To me superior to Abrahamic religions
13. Extremely profound
14.poetic
15.NOT primitivists
16. The Taoist sage or good person is very human
17.opposes excesses or over reliance on technology and science but is not utterly opposed to either
18. corrects lots of western modern thinking with better thinking
19.
Problems with Taoism
Possibly pointing to the limits of its usefulness I guess I'm ultimately a pragmatist first and foremost
1.Ethical : If Wu Wei is spontaneity and Wu Wei is good then does it follow that whatever is spontaneous is good and doesn't this risk endorsing paedophiles etc feels reluctant to judge which could risk relativism
2.Political : Is Taoism opposed to political activism and doesn't this mean it becomes a liberal philosophy betraying its principles and acting unwittingly to protect the existing order
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