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Odysseus the Liar
So Circe never won the heart inside you,
never, so you say?
And yet it was your men,
now wasn’t it,
homesick, sore afraid,
and longing for their unforgotten wives,
who had to prize you from her grasp
to sail again the sea
towards delayed Ithaca,
recall you to your stated destiny?
What lies, you spin!
For one who claims his name means
“Born for Pain”,
you took your time, and theirs,
a year
in pleasurings.
And this I also know:
If Circe called to you again
called with her sirens’ voice,
you’d quickly turn your hollow ship around,
to wake a hurried Eastern course towards her,
for pleasure’s sake.
never, so you say?
And yet it was your men,
now wasn’t it,
homesick, sore afraid,
and longing for their unforgotten wives,
who had to prize you from her grasp
to sail again the sea
towards delayed Ithaca,
recall you to your stated destiny?
What lies, you spin!
For one who claims his name means
“Born for Pain”,
you took your time, and theirs,
a year
in pleasurings.
And this I also know:
If Circe called to you again
called with her sirens’ voice,
you’d quickly turn your hollow ship around,
to wake a hurried Eastern course towards her,
for pleasure’s sake.
Published 24th Sep 2021
Author's Note
A response to Book 6 of the Odyssey.
All writing remains the property of the author. Don't use it for any purpose without their permission.
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The author encourages honest critique.
Is anyone else as curious as I am about whether, instead of offering a thoughtful and articulate analysis of how and why this piece of mine does (or doesn't) display the literary and linguistic elements that a writing should have if it is to be regarded as poetry, J-Z will find some gratuitous "nit" within it to pick at, not to mention that he will do so with a poorly written sentence or two?
25th Sep 2021 3:20pm
If l return to all your criticism of my poetry, l find that you are the FATHER OF THOSE WHO FIND THE GRATUITOUS NIT FOR OTHERS. I ask any participant poet of this group to return to your criticism of my poetry, and he/she discovers this fact very clearly by himself/herself. But this is your most obvious method. You put all your ugly, and unbelievable misconduct in the others so that you keep this unbelievable misconduct away from yourself. I haven't seen any other person who behaves likewise.
25th Sep 2021 5:38pm
So much for J-Z offering a thoughtful and articulate analysis of how and why this piece of mine does (or doesn't) display the literary and linguistic elements that a writing should have if it is to be regarded as poetry.
" l find that you are the FATHER OF THOSE WHO FIND THE GRATUITOUS NIT FOR OTHERS. "
I'd be grateful if you'd point out (without the use of selective quotation" how and why any "nits" I've picked with regard to your submissions have been gratuitous rather than warranted and if you'd document by quotation of their full context that they are not contained within more substantial and articulated remarks about the way you write, let alone that I picked nits for the sake of others.
To help you demonstrate these things (anyone want to wager that my requests will be met with crickets and red herrings and more ad hominems which, if anything, J-Z is the "father of"), you'll find my criticisms of your submissions and other claims here:
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/latestcomments/Baldwin/
In any case, ad hominems are not thoughtful responses to my submission.
I'd be grateful if you'd point out (without the use of selective quotation" how and why any "nits" I've picked with regard to your submissions have been gratuitous rather than warranted and if you'd document by quotation of their full context that they are not contained within more substantial and articulated remarks about the way you write, let alone that I picked nits for the sake of others.
To help you demonstrate these things (anyone want to wager that my requests will be met with crickets and red herrings and more ad hominems which, if anything, J-Z is the "father of"), you'll find my criticisms of your submissions and other claims here:
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/latestcomments/Baldwin/
In any case, ad hominems are not thoughtful responses to my submission.
"I ask any participant poet of this group to return to your criticism of my poetry, and he/she discovers this fact very clearly by himself/herself."
Did you mean to write "I ask any participant poet of this group to return to your criticism of my poetry, and he/she WILL DISCOVER/SEE this fact very clearly FOR himself/herself.
Even your prose remarks are poorly written.
Did you mean to write "I ask any participant poet of this group to return to your criticism of my poetry, and he/she WILL DISCOVER/SEE this fact very clearly FOR himself/herself.
Even your prose remarks are poorly written.
25th Sep 2021 7:32pm
By himself means alone and for himself means for his own knowledge, Baldwin, if you don't know. I want to mean the first not the second. Have you seen your gratuitous nit, Baldwin? Isn't it a waste of time to take you seriously, Baldwin?
25th Sep 2021 8:27pm
You have yet to show that any of my "nits" ARE gratuitous and not warranted. Care to put your money where your mouth is?
"Isn't it a waste of time to take you seriously, Baldwin?"
In the light of your constant red herrings and ad hominems and crickets in response to my requests that you produce actual evidence that supports your claims, not to mention your lack of thoughtful analysis of how and why my submissions are (or are not) good poetry, and your poor writing, this question seems more appropriately addressed to you.
What are the reasons that anyone should take you seriously? "Because I said so" is hardly a reason.
In the light of your constant red herrings and ad hominems and crickets in response to my requests that you produce actual evidence that supports your claims, not to mention your lack of thoughtful analysis of how and why my submissions are (or are not) good poetry, and your poor writing, this question seems more appropriately addressed to you.
What are the reasons that anyone should take you seriously? "Because I said so" is hardly a reason.
