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poet Anonymous

Blocking a member on this site doesnít appear to mean they cannot see your poetry or comments, just that they donít see your new poems come up in the list of submitted poems.

This worries me, as members I have blocked can still read all my comments, poems and access my profile, just without directly being able to converse with me. I donít want certain members seeing anything at all after receiving abusive messages, so why is it that the block option isnít a complete full block? I donít want to see anything of theirs either, comments, poems or anything, but when you have followers in common it seems we always cross paths.

Any way to make blocking a complete block?

Ahavati
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First, I'm sorry you've experienced abusive messages. Secondly, and most unfortunately, there will always be those who are threatened by your presence; or, trolls stirring up drama.

Hopefully it can be resolved soon. Here's to your continued creativity. 🍷

poet Anonymous

Thanks Ahavati. I have actually had a great experience up until recently, itís a shame some absolute psychos ruin that experience.

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the anonymity breeds assholishness.
complete blocks are possible. another site i'm a member of works that way.
the person you've blocked has a very limited view of your profile... just your username, age etc but none of the content you've posted like writing or videos or pics or comments.
it also deletes all their comments from your various posts.

dunno how it works behind the scenes tho

Poetryman
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One problem with that is hat you would also have to block visitors who might want to read your poems but have not become members because the person you want to block could simply sign out and then be able to read your work again. So there would need to be a way to block all un-signed in people as well. Then you would also still need to block that user from creating multiple accounts to get around that.

It's a shame that some people are so obsessed that they would stalk you thusly but this happens in real life too. Report the person to the admins so they can ban him and block his ip address.

JJ

poet Anonymous

I guess the thing is, even if someone did end up making another account, you could at least continue to fully block them so they couldnít access you. I can block non members anyway so thatís not really an issue, the issue is people who are blocked still being visible to you and you being visible to them. Basically the block feature just blocks them from messaging you and commenting on your poems but you are still right out there and viewable, along with your poems. I hate to compare to ďsocial mediaĒ sites as they are mostly bollocks, but when you block on there you are at least invisible and they are also to you.

poet Anonymous

It would be great if this site could allow a full block. There are too many anonymous assholes hiding behind a screen, pretending they are lovely people on the site and then sending abusive messages to members. Itís not just me who feels this way, unfortunately what is a great site is ruined by some people and it shouldnít be!

Ahavati
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A few clarifications:

Firstly, if you become a DU supporter you'll have a settings option that prevents non-users from seeing your poetry. Secondly, Webmiss has put guidelines in place regarding multiple accounts. They must disclose the multiples on their profiles and in forum signatures ( in specific words ).

Unfortunately, I've noticed many long-term members who use multiple accounts that have removed such information. If long-standing members aren't required to adhere to the guidelines, then it's a free-for-all for psychos.

Hopefully it will ALL be rectified soon.

poet Anonymous

Hope so Ahavati! As it brings the whole atmosphere down. Is there ever going to be a full block option or will it remain as it is?

Ahavati
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StarliteStarfright said:Hope so Ahavati! As it brings the whole atmosphere down. Is there ever going to be a full block option or will it remain as it is?

That's one for the Webmiss!

Poetryman
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People break laws all the time, so rules are like empty words to some.
If a person signs on at home with one account and then on their phone with another account, there's no way to catch hem as their ip address will be different.  Sex offenders do that to look at porn. They only get caught when they break another law and someone checks their id.

Didn't know about he other options for supporters. Interesting to know.

Any way you look at it, when we put ourselves out there, we get noticed by all kinds.
Maybe we should require a verifiable form of id to have an account, like a credit card. Use it only to check identity. Only admins could see info and the credit card number should not be viewable by anyone to prevent theft or even the temptation.
JJ

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I feel full block should be an option for non paying members but it being part of a free platform I understand only so many options can be available. I hope everyone has better experiences in the future though. Good vibes going out to everyone effected.

Ahavati
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Pulling this old thread regarding blocking up since the topic is on the board. We lost a great member because of harassment.  I've gone through the same thing recently ( this person even stalked me offsite, attempting to follow me across social networking platforms, as well as discovered one of my biggest clients, and left a string of comments/questions across their page ).  I fought back successfully; but, I am a fighter and not intimidated by a bully.  Starlite tried with this thread, but eventually left.

Until you can determine the logistics of forum posts, etc., I would love to see the blocking feature implemented in at least in the following:

1. When you are logged out, you cannot select "comments" from a member's profile in order to view them ( see attached). I would like to see that for blocked members as well. This will prevent a lot of discord if they're obsessively reading through a filter that everything is about them.

2. A blocked member still has access to your lists: poetry, RL, complete profile view, etc. I would like to see that stopped. The only thing I would like blocked members to see is the screenshot view I have attached.

3. A blocked member would have zero access to your poetry.  If they log out to read, there is an option of hiding your poems to non-members.  And because there is a policy in place regarding the disclosure of multiple profiles, violation of this warrants banning ( although I do realize that some will circumvent the technology - which should reveal just how obsessed they are to themselves if no one else ).

Blocking should mean blocking, just as No should mean No.  Unfortunately, to a bully it doesn't.   I have less than a handful blocked for a substantial reason ( mainly non-compliant harassment after requests ).  I don't block members because I do not like them.  I don't hate anyone. We all evolve in our own time.  For the most part, I simply don't want negative, passive/aggressive imprints out of a spiteful, "I'll do what I want despite your wishes" attitude in the comments of my poetry.  It's that simple.  

If someone cannot respect another's wishes to be left alone, they have a personal issue of growth stemming around control that they need to address.  Everyone has the right to associate with whom they choose; but, no one has the right to insert themselves into another's life, particularly when they are aware their presence is not welcomed.

It's a shame that adults cannot adult at times - but writers, artists, and the like can be emotionally passionate, thus discord.  I love spirited debate done in the correct manner; however, draw the line at name-calling, harassment, and stalking on or off-site ( though I realize Admin has no off-site control ).

There was a time I could just overlook people, but when they begin shadowing you on and off-site, that is a different ball game altogether, and shows you the type of person you're dealing with.  No one should be subjected to that when they simply want to enjoy a poetry site.

JohnnyBlaze
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Yep. It's a sad fact, but true - people obsessed with you are going to do whatever they can to read your comments and poetry to draw inspiration for their latest shenanigan - which can be

writing poems, comments or forum posts in attempt to solicit any reaction from you

and

cozying up to other members you associate with in order to glean information from them about you, pass messages to you through them and fill their heads with nonsense about you

It happens here and it's happened at other poetry sites long defunct because blocking measures of any sort were never implemented.

While you can ignore such as much as humanly possible, the risk of innocent bystanders getting sucked into the needless drama increases.

Out of site, out of mind as much as technologically possible is the best route - it removes the object of fixation away from the attention seeker.


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Just a reminder that if things are getting really bad, or unbearable, or any degree that is making things on DU unpleasant please raise an issue/problem with the Moderators. We cannot guarantee it will be done instantly, but we promise we will not ignore it and will treat it with confidentiality and respect.

If the issue is small or light-hearted enough: the type where it is a falling out after a long time of being friends/nice to each other please try to have another willing member mediate between the involved members. Life is too short and poetry too expansive, for people to hold grudges and grievances over little things that have gotten out of hand when a bit of rejoining would go a long way to fixing it all.

Though again, if it is a big enough problem then do make the Mods aware of it. Even if we cannot make everyone happy families, we can at least try to set boundaries and spheres that never meet, rather than having someone decide that they continue as a member on DU anymore.
All in all just be nice to each other, and if it is something that you can ignore and doesn't harm anyone by being around and being ignored, just ignore it and get on with life rather than obsessing over the piddling stuff that gets you down but 'aint that big of deal really!

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