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Trumps Indictment: Historical and Future Implications IV

Ahavati
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July 4, 2024
HEATHER COX RICHARDSON
JUL 05, 2024


Monday, July 1, was a busy day. That morning the Supreme Court handed down a decision in Donald J. Trump v. United States that gives the president absolute immunity for committing crimes while engaging in official acts. On the same day, Trump White House strategist Steve Bannon began a four-month sentence for contempt of Congress at a low-security federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut. Before he began serving his sentence, he swore he would “be more powerful in prison than I am now.”

“On July 2, Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, went onto Bannon’s webcast War Room to hearten Bannon’s right-wing followers after Bannon’s incarceration. Former representative Dave Brat (R-VA) was sitting in for Bannon and conducted the interview.  

“[W]e are going to win,” Roberts told them. “We're in the process of taking this country back…. We ought to be really encouraged by what happened yesterday. And in spite of all of the injustice, which, of course, friends and audience of this show, of our friend Steve know, we are going to prevail.”

“That Supreme Court ruling yesterday on immunity is vital, and it's vital for a lot of reasons,” Roberts said, adding that the nation needs a strong leader because “the radical left…has taken over our institutions.” “[W]e are in the process of the second American Revolution,” he said, “which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

Roberts took over the presidency of the Heritage Foundation in 2021, and he shifted it from a conservative think tank to an organization devoted to “institutionalizing Trumpism.” Central to that project for Roberts has been working to bring the policies of Hungary’s president Viktor Orbán, a close ally of Russia’s president Vladimir Putin, to the United States.

In 2023, Roberts brought the Heritage Foundation into a formal partnership with Hungary’s Danube Institute, a think tank overseen by a foundation that is directly funded by the Hungarian government; as journalist Casey Michel reported, it is, “for all intents and purposes, a state-funded front for pushing pro-Orbán rhetoric.” The Danube Institute has given grants to far-right figures in the U.S., and, Michel noted in March, “we have no idea how much funding may be flowing directly from Orbán’s regime to the Heritage Foundation.” Roberts has called modern Hungary “not just a model for conservative statecraft but the model.”

Orbán has been open about his determination to overthrow the concept of western democracy and replace it with what he has, on different occasions, called “illiberal democracy” or “Christian democracy.” He wants to replace the multiculturalism at the heart of democracy with Christian culture, stop the immigration that he believes undermines Hungarian culture, and reject “adaptable family models” in favor of “the Christian family model.” He is moving Hungary away from the stabilizing international systems supported by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

No matter what he calls it, Orbán’s model is not democracy at all. As soon as he retook office in 2010, he began to establish control over the media, cracking down on those critical of his far-right political party, Fidesz, and rewarding those who toed the party line. In 2012 his supporters rewrote the country’s constitution to strengthen his hand, and extreme gerrymandering gave his party more power while changes to election rules benefited his campaigns. Increasingly, he used the power of the state to concentrate wealth among his cronies, and he reworked the country’s judicial system and civil service system to stack it with his loyalists, who attacked immigrants, women, and the rights of LGBTQ+ individuals. While Hungary still holds elections, state control of the media and the apparatus of voting means that it is impossible for the people of Hungary to remove him from power.

Trump supporters have long admired Orbán’s nationalism and centering of Christianity, while the fact that Hungary continues to have elections enables them to pretend that the country remains a democracy.

The tight cooperation between Heritage and Orbán illuminates Project 2025, the blueprint for a new kind of government dictated by Trump or a Trump-like figure. In January 2024, Roberts told Lulu Garcia-Navarro of the New York Times that Project 2025 was designed to jump-start a right-wing takeover of the government. “[T]he Trump administration, with the best of intentions, simply got a slow start,” Roberts said. “And Heritage and our allies in Project 2025 believe that must never be repeated.”

Project 2025 stands on four principles that it says the country must embrace: the U.S. must “[r]estore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children”; “[d]ismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people”; “[d]efend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats”; and “[s]ecure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls ‘the Blessings of Liberty.’”

In almost 1,000 pages, the document explains what these policies mean for ordinary Americans. Restoring the family and protecting children means using “government power…to restore the American family.” That, the document says, means eliminating any words associated with sexual orientation or gender identity, gender, abortion, reproductive health, or reproductive rights from any government rule, regulation, or law. Any reference to transgenderism is “pornography” and must be banned.

The overturning of the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that recognized the right to abortion must be gratefully celebrated, the document says, but the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision accomplishing that end “is just the beginning.”

Dismantling the administrative state starts from the premise that “people are policy.” Frustrated because nonpartisan civil employees thwarted much of Trump’s agenda in his first term, the authors of Project 2025 call for firing much of the current government workforce—about 2 million people work for the U.S. government—and replacing it with loyalists who will carry out a right-wing president’s demands.

The plan asserts “the existential need” for an authoritarian leader to dismantle the current government that regulates business, provides a social safety net, and protects civil rights. Instead of the government Americans have built since 1933, the plan says the national government must “decentralize and privatize as much as possible” and leave “the great majority of domestic activities to state, local, and private governance.”

It attacks “America’s largest corporations, its public institutions, and its popular culture,” for their embrace of international organizations like the United Nations and the European Union and for their willingness to work with other countries. It calls for abandoning all of those partnerships and alliances.

Cont below

Ahavati
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Cont from above

Also on July 1, Orbán took over the rotating presidency of the European Union. He will be operating for six months in that position under a slogan taken from Trump and adapted to Europe: “Make Europe Great Again.” The day before taking that office, Orbán announced that his political party was forming a new alliance with far-right parties in Austria and the Czech Republic in order to launch a “new era of European politics.”

Tomorrow, Orbán will travel to Moscow to meet with Russian president Vladimir Putin. On July 2, Orbán met with Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv, where he urged Zelensky to accept a “ceasefire.” In the U.S., Trump’s team has suggested that, if reelected, Trump will call for an immediate ceasefire and will negotiate with Putin over how much of Ukraine Putin can keep while also rejecting Ukraine for NATO membership and scaling back U.S. commitment to NATO.

“I would expect a very quick end to the conflict,” Kevin Roberts said. Putin says he supports Trump’s plan.

Roberts’s “second American revolution,” which would destroy American democracy in an echo of a small-time dictator like Orbán and align our country with authoritarian leaders, seems a lot less patriotic than the first American Revolution.

For my part, I will stand with the words written 248 years ago today, saying that “all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”



Notes: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-4-2024

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PoetWarrior
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Mark_Parsons said:I find it ironic that communist sympathies prevail on a website that's supposedly devoted to the art of poetry.
Art is the oldest and purest form of Private Enterprise, which is in absolute, polar opposition to communism.
Individual privacy in general--art being the MOST private experience--is opposed to communism / socialism.
Yet here we are--all these supposed artistic types supporting communism, state control of the individual and his enterprise.


Mark,  You are correct. "The arts" suggest individualism...antithetical to Communism.  "The arts" suggest free expression. ..also antithetical to Communism.

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The far left has proven itself capable only of anarchy, they do not believe in the law or the civil society all are entitled to.  Anarchists create nothing, honor nothing and threaten peace.. ...The right is forced to defend the rights of citizens, their beliefs, safety, property and the individual's right to enjoy the fruits of his/her labor.  Marxist/Leninist "ideals" oppose individualism and champion the state. Communists seek to impose the state over all by means of anarchy...theocracy is much the same.....neither can be allowed to rear their ugly heads in America..  

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The Supreme Court’s decisions (such as the recent ruling re: Trump) cannot be “cherry picked” by those who approve of some rulings and disapprove of others….If they could be so easily/arbitrarily overturned, slavery and segregation might still be legal in America. There will always be some who disagree with one or more of the court’s decisions (and “laws”, in general).
The court interprets constitutional law and so is an integral part of America’s system of governance. There is a simple remedy for those who cannot abide by the court’s decisions or the laws of the land…find another country that better suits their beliefs.


Rew
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Crime & Punishment

A guilty verdict a heinous crime
the jury advised " keep your name secret "
I may see trump jailed, doing some hard time,

The boss of a crime family in his prime
Vince Gigente was jailed to pay his debt
a guilty verdict a heinous crime,

A gangster who blagged to top of the pile
with conspiracies and murderous threats,
I may see trump jailed, doing some hard time,

There's no change between these two, in my mind
except the fool's coxcomb of his barnet
(a guilty verdict a hideous crime),

who thinks when he crows the sun rise and shines
I like to think he's now started to sweat
I may see trump jailed, doing some hard time.

I've no forgiveness, let him beg for dimes,
he can share a pitch with Guilliani, yet
I may see trump jailed, doing some hard time
a guilty verdict a heinous crime...

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Well done, Rew, well done 👍

PoetWarrior
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Rew,
If I was English (as your profile flag claims you are) I'd tend to my own country's problems before being critical of America's internal affairs..

Ahavati
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EVERYONE is welcome to RESPECTFULLY post their opinions in this thread regardless of what country they live in. If you think this issue won't affect Europe, you're very mistaken. Where do you think Ukraine is?

PoetWarrior
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Ahavati said:EVERYONE is welcome to RESPECTFULLY post their opinions in this thread regardless of what country they live in. If you think this issue won't affect Europe, you're very mistaken. Where do you think Ukraine is?


The comments I was referring to were not about Ukraine or Europe.  The comments I referred to were made as a criminal accusation of American politicians made by someone who claims to be a citizen of another country (and who, consequently, has "no dog in the fight.")

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"Trump’s team has suggested that, if reelected, Trump will call for an immediate ceasefire and will negotiate with Putin over how much of Ukraine Putin can keep while also rejecting Ukraine for NATO membership and scaling back U.S. commitment to NATO"

Your source for what "Trump's team has suggested" ?.

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Just a few things from "Project 2025"

Kevin Roberts ( Heritage Foundation Pres ) wants to prioritizing the securing of “our God-given individual rights to live freely” against a “woke” threat. “Today the Left is threatening the tax-exempt status of churches and charities that reject woke progressivism,” ( I'd like to see the evidence for that ). He further states, “They will soon turn to Christian schools and clubs with the same totalitarian intent.”

Anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ policies run throughout the project, several policy areas stand out:

Roger Severino’s chapter on the Department of Health and Human Services urges the next conservative president to “maintain a biblically based, social science–reinforced definition of marriage and family.” Severino is concerned that federal programs will be subjected to “nonreligious definitions of marriage and family as put forward by the recently enacted Respect for Marriage Act.”

The Respect for Marriage Act, passed last year by Congress with strong bipartisan support, requires the federal government and states to recognize same-sex and interracial marriages. The law is not religious or nonreligious; it is a constitutionally enacted law of the United States.

Project 2025 appears to call on the next Republican president to draw distinctions between parts of the law as “religious” and “nonreligious.” The Bible is not a higher authority than laws passed by Congress, and far-right groups do not have to like American laws to respect that those laws are not overruled by their personal interpretation of the Bible.

The Covid-19 policies by Severino criticizes the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s actions and wonders “how much risk mitigation is worth the price of shutting down churches on the holiest day of the Christian calendar and far beyond as happened in 2020? What is the proper balance of lives saved versus souls saved?”

Since when it is the Federal Governments role to "save souls" that, frankly, aren't lost to begin with.

Then there's the chapter on the U.S. Department of Labor, where Jonathan Berry bases his proposals as part of divine history. “The Judeo-Christian tradition, stretching back to Genesis, has always recognized fruitful work as integral to human dignity, as service to God, neighbor, and family,” he writes, while claiming the Biden administration “has been hostile to people of faith.”

He further states that “God ordained the Sabbath as a day of rest, and until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition sought to honor that mandate by moral and legal regulation of work on that day” and blames consumerism and secularism for the decline in Sabbath observance.

I have news for EVERY CHRISTIAN that holds Sunday as the Sabbath. It's not. God ordained the Sabbath on SATURDAY. SATURDAY is the day Jesus, as a JEW, acknowledged as the Sabbath. it is STILL honored by Jews today. Roman Emperor Constantine I made Sunday a day of rest in the Roman Empire in 321 AD with a civil decree that stated "All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun".

So, in essence the "Christian" Church isn't even worshipping on the true Sabbath but a Roman day of rest. How ironic and hypocritical is that?

But wait! There's more:

Berry wants the federal government to push people back to church by calling on Congress to “encourage communal rest by amending the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) to require that workers be paid time and a half for hours worked on the Sabbath.” Berry argues this would lead to higher costs that would reduce work on the Sabbath

Wait. What?!

“Project 2025” does not want to ensure all Americans have religious freedom but want to impose conservative Christian views on our country.  

Instituting “biblically based” policies, saving souls and inducing Sabbath observance constitute a direct attack on religious freedom, a freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment, which keeps the government out of religion.

You know, Rome couldn't save itself from religious fanatics who have totally taken Jesus' message out of context. I seriously doubt America can unless people get off their ass and read Project 2025 before showing up at the polls.

Again:

Separation of Church and State: Biden
Project 2025: Trump

You're not voting for a man - you're voting for a policy. And that policy is separation of church and state or Christian nationalism.

Rew
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Good Gop, Bad Gop

If only the GOP was a force for all
ah, what miracles would they have achieved  
but they squander stuff and like Satan will fall

They make up ills where there's no call at all
then bawl out loud just to cause some more grief
if only the GOP was a force for all...

Instead of  the baggage that they they all haul
like the stuff of their sex-offender-in-chief
cause he squanders stuff and like Satan falls

This trump harps 'bout love but unlike St Paul
it is love of self and the things he thieves
if only the GOP was a force for all,

The whole nation has need to be appalled  
as the rest of the world looks in disbelief  
cos they squander stuff and like Satan fall

At the rise of tRump's mind so narrow and small
But here it is and set out in this brief
If only the gop was a force for all
but they squander stuff and like Satan fall...

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