Trumps Indictment: Historical and Future Implications II
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In Colorado seems people do not think that the guy wanting the job of senator is enough to the right. Plus idiots like Tuberville of Alabama acting like he's God, blocking a zillion huge military promotions. And then the likes of De Santis. Indeed, God forbid, Trump becomes president again you can kiss democracy in the US good-bye. It will be Heil Hitler time again.
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Have to agree with AV, both are too old for that kind of responsibility/ pressure. I think it's unfortunate there wasn't a better choice of canditate. you'd have to wonder how much that reflects the people of America.
There are aspects of the electoral process which seem to lean towards the potential at least for manipulation. for example in some states a voted need not show identification
in general it would appear on the face of it anyway more of a majority of people (voters) are much more passionate and more divided well past the normal window (run up to election to inauguration)
by contrast for example here and to a level the UK also you wouldn't know what kind of political preference people on the street have from one election to another
there would appear to be a real and present hatred not just for opposing party but also for opposing people. if that were the case I believe the people have lost
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The arrest itself appeared in accordance with protocol regarding (top) secret documents. there was also case for Biden in that same regard. he appears to have resolved it
There are aspects of the electoral process which seem to lean towards the potential at least for manipulation. for example in some states a voted need not show identification
in general it would appear on the face of it anyway more of a majority of people (voters) are much more passionate and more divided well past the normal window (run up to election to inauguration)
by contrast for example here and to a level the UK also you wouldn't know what kind of political preference people on the street have from one election to another
there would appear to be a real and present hatred not just for opposing party but also for opposing people. if that were the case I believe the people have lost
Edit:
The arrest itself appeared in accordance with protocol regarding (top) secret documents. there was also case for Biden in that same regard. he appears to have resolved it
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That's your go to word isn't it, Paedophile.
The discussion stopper, the trump card?
Trump and other extremists do a lot of projecting, just saying, is all.
The discussion stopper, the trump card?
Trump and other extremists do a lot of projecting, just saying, is all.
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Rew said:That's your go to word isn't it, Paedophile.
The discussion stopper, the trump card?
Trump and other extremists do a lot of projecting, just saying, is all.
The extreme warning, the thread deprioritization, the dissenting voice silencer, like twice before.
He and runaway_mindtrain seem to think this is a pro-Biden thread when it's any thing but.
It's an anti-white supremacy dictatorship that silences the voices of minorities that will spread globally if not stopped. And if anyone doesn't believe that, imagine America, Russia, and China aligned. What do you think will happen globally, country by country, if that happens?
Ask Ukraine. They know.
But, purported pedophile.
The discussion stopper, the trump card?
Trump and other extremists do a lot of projecting, just saying, is all.
The extreme warning, the thread deprioritization, the dissenting voice silencer, like twice before.
He and runaway_mindtrain seem to think this is a pro-Biden thread when it's any thing but.
It's an anti-white supremacy dictatorship that silences the voices of minorities that will spread globally if not stopped. And if anyone doesn't believe that, imagine America, Russia, and China aligned. What do you think will happen globally, country by country, if that happens?
Ask Ukraine. They know.
But, purported pedophile.

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lepperochan said:Have to agree with AV, both are too old for that kind of responsibility/ pressure. I think it's unfortunate there wasn't a better choice of canditate. you'd have to wonder how much that reflects the people of America.
From my personal perspective: the American people didn't realize the magnitude of deep prejudice in our own country until Trump gave it a voice. What we thought was dying was really smoldering like magma below the surface of the resentful. This is why Trump wasn't elected for a second term. What we were most ignorant about was the political maneuvering that enabled like-minded extremists to gain a foothold during his tenure and the subsequent "Big Lie", re: "The election was stolen".
Don't misunderstand me, we needed a change from the corruption that preceded Trump's presidency; however, we, or at least I, was shocked to see how much corruption coupled with blatant racism. This became prevalent through attempts to redraw district lines that would eliminate minority voting populations from districts in order to stack the electoral college in favor of extremism.
Here in America, the Electoral College has become a tool for extremism. A man could get millions of popular votes but could easily lose the election to someone who only garnered thousands of popular votes if he won the electoral college. [ The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. ]
There are aspects of the electoral process which seem to lean towards the potential at least for manipulation. for example in some states a voted need not show identification
You can't just go in and vote with or without an ID at any polling place. They have a list of registered voters in each precinct. This includes the full name and address. To vote you must identify your address along with personal information. Then your name is manually marked out before you can receive a ballot. This ensures no one can vote twice.
An ID would make it easier and quicker. They have something called "Real ID" now. My son is actually getting one today, as it's his birthday and his license expires.
in general it would appear on the face of it anyway more of a majority of people (voters) are much more passionate and more divided well past the normal window (run up to election to inauguration)
by contrast for example here and to a level the UK also you wouldn't know what kind of political preference people on the street have from one election to another
there would appear to be a real and present hatred not just for opposing party but also for opposing people. if that were the case I believe the people have lost
There is, but only in certain areas. When I go out with my children or a friend, you can't tell who is who unless they have a "Make America Great" hat or shirt on. Be that as it may be, I refuse to believe we've lost. I do believe we're at a tipping point.
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The arrest itself appeared in accordance with protocol regarding (top) secret documents. there was also case for Biden in that same regard. he appears to have resolved it.
Trump wasn't just arrested for classified documents. . .but election interference, hush money scheme, and found guilty for sexual abuse.
From my personal perspective: the American people didn't realize the magnitude of deep prejudice in our own country until Trump gave it a voice. What we thought was dying was really smoldering like magma below the surface of the resentful. This is why Trump wasn't elected for a second term. What we were most ignorant about was the political maneuvering that enabled like-minded extremists to gain a foothold during his tenure and the subsequent "Big Lie", re: "The election was stolen".
Don't misunderstand me, we needed a change from the corruption that preceded Trump's presidency; however, we, or at least I, was shocked to see how much corruption coupled with blatant racism. This became prevalent through attempts to redraw district lines that would eliminate minority voting populations from districts in order to stack the electoral college in favor of extremism.
Here in America, the Electoral College has become a tool for extremism. A man could get millions of popular votes but could easily lose the election to someone who only garnered thousands of popular votes if he won the electoral college. [ The Electoral College consists of 538 electors. A majority of 270 electoral votes is required to elect the President. ]
There are aspects of the electoral process which seem to lean towards the potential at least for manipulation. for example in some states a voted need not show identification
You can't just go in and vote with or without an ID at any polling place. They have a list of registered voters in each precinct. This includes the full name and address. To vote you must identify your address along with personal information. Then your name is manually marked out before you can receive a ballot. This ensures no one can vote twice.
An ID would make it easier and quicker. They have something called "Real ID" now. My son is actually getting one today, as it's his birthday and his license expires.
in general it would appear on the face of it anyway more of a majority of people (voters) are much more passionate and more divided well past the normal window (run up to election to inauguration)
by contrast for example here and to a level the UK also you wouldn't know what kind of political preference people on the street have from one election to another
there would appear to be a real and present hatred not just for opposing party but also for opposing people. if that were the case I believe the people have lost
There is, but only in certain areas. When I go out with my children or a friend, you can't tell who is who unless they have a "Make America Great" hat or shirt on. Be that as it may be, I refuse to believe we've lost. I do believe we're at a tipping point.
Edit:
The arrest itself appeared in accordance with protocol regarding (top) secret documents. there was also case for Biden in that same regard. he appears to have resolved it.
Trump wasn't just arrested for classified documents. . .but election interference, hush money scheme, and found guilty for sexual abuse.
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robert43041 said:In Colorado seems people do not think that the guy wanting the job of senator is enough to the right. Plus idiots like Tuberville of Alabama acting like he's God, blocking a zillion huge military promotions. And then the likes of De Santis. Indeed, God forbid, Trump becomes president again you can kiss democracy in the US good-bye. It will be Heil Hitler time again.
You mean Heil Trump?
Tuberville is blowing my mind. The deference of military promotions that place our national defense at risk because of the military's abortion and inclusion ( LGBTQ ) policies is INSANE. Tuberville is grandstanding on the platform. I hope the military stands firm. Like my father once said, "I fought for EVERY American. Not just the white ones or the male ones." LGBTQ wasn't an issue back in those days, but had it been one, I have no doubt he would've included them too.
DeSantis is just dangerous.*
*Disclaimer: My personal opinion.
You mean Heil Trump?
Tuberville is blowing my mind. The deference of military promotions that place our national defense at risk because of the military's abortion and inclusion ( LGBTQ ) policies is INSANE. Tuberville is grandstanding on the platform. I hope the military stands firm. Like my father once said, "I fought for EVERY American. Not just the white ones or the male ones." LGBTQ wasn't an issue back in those days, but had it been one, I have no doubt he would've included them too.
DeSantis is just dangerous.*
*Disclaimer: My personal opinion.
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Kevin McCarthy wanted the gavel and for it sold his soul to the devil. His group is now a group of thugs.............some even openly stating that they do not believe in the Constitution. So, even if he steps down, won't make any difference until and unless the GOP comes to its senses. Difficult to imagine considering that Trump still holds the strings.
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Yesterday, Senator Mitt Romney (R-UT) announced he would not run for reelection. That announcement came just as The Atlantic published an excerpt from a forthcoming biography of Romney by McKay Coppins in which Romney expressed disgust with his Republican colleagues for feeding Trump’s lies to their voters in exchange for power and acknowledged that “[a] very large portion of my party really doesn’t believe in the Constitution.”
Coppins had access to Romney’s private journals, correspondence, and interviews. He describes Romney as isolated from other Republicans in Washington, unwelcome first because he was disgusted by Trump and vowed to be independent of him and then because, in the first impeachment trial, Romney voted to convict on one of two charges.
Romney said that “[a]lmost without exception” his Republican colleagues “shared my view of the president,” but they refused to speak up out of fear that their voters would turn against them. Coppins recounts a weekly caucus lunch at which Republicans gave Trump a standing ovation, listened as he boasted and rambled through remarks, and then burst into laughter as soon as Trump left.
That loyalty appears to have been behind leaders’ refusal to address rumors of violence on January 6, 2021. According to Coppins, on January 2, 2021, Senator Angus King (I-ME) warned Romney that a high-ranking Pentagon official had told King that right-wing extremists online appeared to be planning to attack the government on January 6 to stop what Trump had told them was the stealing of the 2020 presidential election. They talked of guns and arson and bombs, and they talked of targeting the traitors in Congress, among whom they counted Romney for his vote to convict Trump on one count in his first impeachment trial. King was concerned for Romney’s safety.
Romney promptly texted then–Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to recount the conversation. “There are calls to burn down your home, Mitch; to smuggle guns into DC, and to storm the Capitol,” Romney wrote. “I hope that sufficient security plans are in place, but I am concerned that the instigator—the President—is the one who commands the reinforcements the DC and Capitol police might require.” McConnell never answered.
When even after the events of January 6, fellow senators continued to execute their plan of objecting to the counting of electoral votes for certain states, Romney called them out on the floor of the Senate for “being complicit in an unprecedented attack against our democracy.”
Romney recalled that some senators refused to convict Trump in the second impeachment trial out of concerns for their safety and that of their families. Romney himself had hired a security detail for his family since the attack on the U.S. Capitol, but at $5,000 a day such security was out of reach for most of his colleagues.
Just eleven years ago, Romney was the 2012 Republican nominee for president. Almost 61 million Americans voted for him. Now he is leaving public service with voters calling him a traitor and threatening his life.
In the House of Representatives today, Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) had to pull back one of the eleven spending bills that Congress needs to pass before the end of the fiscal year on September 30 to fund the government. Extremists say they will not bring any of those bills to the floor without deeper cuts than McCarthy agreed to in a deal with President Biden earlier this year.
In a conference meeting today, McCarthy allegedly exploded at the extremists stopping the budget process, who hold over him their power to challenge his speakership. “If you want to file a motion to vacate,” he said, “then file a f*cking motion.” Rather than backing down, an extremist leader, Representative Matt Gaetz (R-FL), continued to needle McCarthy on social media.
The House went home for the weekend. While it made no progress on the budget this week, Speaker McCarthy did manage to initiate an impeachment inquiry into President Biden in an unsuccessful attempt to appease the extremists. According to Jonathan Swan, Maggie Haberman and Alyce McFadden of the New York Times, those extremists have been conferring with Trump.
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), who has led calls to impeach Biden, told the reporters that she told Trump she wanted the impeachment inquiry to be “long and excruciatingly painful for Joe Biden.” Ultimately, she says, she wants a “long list of names” of those she claims are involved in crimes with the Bidens, and when Trump wins the presidency in 2024, she wants “to go after every single one of them and use the Department of Justice to prosecute them.”
Today the independent counsel appointed by then-president Trump to investigate Biden’s son Hunter charged Hunter with three felonies related to the fact that he falsely claimed he was not using illegal drugs when he applied to buy a handgun that he owned for about 11 days in 2018. Los Angeles Times legal affairs columnist Harry Litman noted that in June, after five years of investigation, the Justice Department negotiated a plea agreement with Hunter Biden’s lawyers in which Biden would plead guilty to two tax offenses and receive probation, and a gun charge would be dropped after two years if he continued to stay drug-free.
Although Biden had taken the unusual step of retaining Trump’s appointee, then–U.S. attorney David Weiss, to continue to investigate Hunter even after Trump’s term ended, to avoid any appearance of interference, Republicans protested what they saw as preferential treatment for the president’s son, harassing Weiss’s team and FBI agents and their families. Then the deal fell apart for reasons unrelated to Hunter.
And now Weiss has brought more charges. Litman notes that “the charges Weiss brought are rarely pursued for their own sake. The department does bring such charges against defendants who use improperly obtained firearms to commit other crimes. And in one or two instances, prosecutors appear to have used such charges against defendants whom they knew to be particularly dangerous. But this indictment over an isolated lie by a relatively harmless firearm applicant seems to be without precedent.”
But, Litman notes, the Republicans now have something with which “to muddy the waters with respect to Trump’s multiple criminal indictments.” As if on cue, House Oversight Committee chair James Comer (R-KY) claimed that “[m]ountains of evidence reveals that Hunter Biden likely committed several felonies and Americans expect the Justice Department to apply the law equally. Today’s charges are a very small start, but unless U.S. Attorney Weiss investigates everyone involved in the fraud schemes and influence peddling, it will be clear President Biden’s DOJ is protecting Hunter Biden and the big guy.”
Yesterday, President Biden spoke at a campaign reception. “Everybody always asks about impeachment,” he said, but he didn’t think much about it. He noted that Greene had vowed to impeach him the first day she was elected, and said: “I get up every day…not focused on impeachment. I’ve got a job to do. I’ve got to deal with the issues that affect the American people every single solitary day.”
That focus today demonstrated the vision Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris have for the U.S. After yesterday’s meeting between Russia’s president Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un, U.S. national security advisor Jake Sullivan today held a trilateral call with his counterparts in Japan and South Korea, honoring the agreement forged at the historic trilateral summit of the three countries at Camp David in August. Together, they noted that North Korean arms exports to Russia would directly violate multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions, including ones for which Russia itself voted.
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Coppins had access to Romney’s private journals, correspondence, and interviews. He describes Romney as isolated from other Republicans in Washington, unwelcome first because he was disgusted by Trump and vowed to be independent of him and then because, in the first impeachment trial, Romney voted to convict on one of two charges.
Romney said that “[a]lmost without exception” his Republican colleagues “shared my view of the president,” but they refused to speak up out of fear that their voters would turn against them. Coppins recounts a weekly caucus lunch at which Republicans gave Trump a standing ovation, listened as he boasted and rambled through remarks, and then burst into laughter as soon as Trump left.
That loyalty appears to have been behind leaders’ refusal to address rumors of violence on January 6, 2021. According to Coppins, on January 2, 2021, Senator Angus King (I-ME) warned Romney that a high-ranking Pentagon official had told King that right-wing extremists online appeared to be planning to attack the government on January 6 to stop what Trump had told them was the stealing of the 2020 presidential election. They talked of guns and arson and bombs, and they talked of targeting the traitors in Congress, among whom they counted Romney for his vote to convict Trump on one count in his first impeachment trial. King was concerned for Romney’s safety.
Romney promptly texted then–Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to recount the conversation. “There are calls to burn down your home, Mitch; to smuggle guns into DC, and to storm the Capitol,” Romney wrote. “I hope that sufficient security plans are in place, but I am concerned that the instigator—the President—is the one who commands the reinforcements the DC and Capitol police might require.” McConnell never answered.
When even after the events of January 6, fellow senators continued to execute their plan of objecting to the counting of electoral votes for certain states, Romney called them out on the floor of the Senate for “being complicit in an unprecedented attack against our democracy.”
Romney recalled that some senators refused to convict Trump in the second impeachment trial out of concerns for their safety and that of their families. Romney himself had hired a security detail for his family since the attack on the U.S. Capitol, but at $5,000 a day such security was out of reach for most of his colleagues.
Just eleven years ago, Romney was the 2012 Republican nominee for president. Almost 61 million Americans voted for him. Now he is leaving public service with voters calling him a traitor and threatening his life.
In the House of Representatives today, Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) had to pull back one of the eleven spending bills that Congress needs to pass before the end of the fiscal year on September 30 to fund the government. Extremists say they will not bring any of those bills to the floor without deeper cuts than McCarthy agreed to in a deal with President Biden earlier this year.
In a conference meeting today, McCarthy allegedly exploded at the extremists stopping the budget process, who hold over him their power to challenge his speakership. “If you want to file a motion to vacate,” he said, “then file a f*cking motion.” Rather than backing down, an extremist leader, Representative Matt Gaetz (R-FL), continued to needle McCarthy on social media.
The House went home for the weekend. While it made no progress on the budget this week, Speaker McCarthy did manage to initiate an impeachment inquiry into President Biden in an unsuccessful attempt to appease the extremists. According to Jonathan Swan, Maggie Haberman and Alyce McFadden of the New York Times, those extremists have been conferring with Trump.
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), who has led calls to impeach Biden, told the reporters that she told Trump she wanted the impeachment inquiry to be “long and excruciatingly painful for Joe Biden.” Ultimately, she says, she wants a “long list of names” of those she claims are involved in crimes with the Bidens, and when Trump wins the presidency in 2024, she wants “to go after every single one of them and use the Department of Justice to prosecute them.”
Today the independent counsel appointed by then-president Trump to investigate Biden’s son Hunter charged Hunter with three felonies related to the fact that he falsely claimed he was not using illegal drugs when he applied to buy a handgun that he owned for about 11 days in 2018. Los Angeles Times legal affairs columnist Harry Litman noted that in June, after five years of investigation, the Justice Department negotiated a plea agreement with Hunter Biden’s lawyers in which Biden would plead guilty to two tax offenses and receive probation, and a gun charge would be dropped after two years if he continued to stay drug-free.
Although Biden had taken the unusual step of retaining Trump’s appointee, then–U.S. attorney David Weiss, to continue to investigate Hunter even after Trump’s term ended, to avoid any appearance of interference, Republicans protested what they saw as preferential treatment for the president’s son, harassing Weiss’s team and FBI agents and their families. Then the deal fell apart for reasons unrelated to Hunter.
And now Weiss has brought more charges. Litman notes that “the charges Weiss brought are rarely pursued for their own sake. The department does bring such charges against defendants who use improperly obtained firearms to commit other crimes. And in one or two instances, prosecutors appear to have used such charges against defendants whom they knew to be particularly dangerous. But this indictment over an isolated lie by a relatively harmless firearm applicant seems to be without precedent.”
But, Litman notes, the Republicans now have something with which “to muddy the waters with respect to Trump’s multiple criminal indictments.” As if on cue, House Oversight Committee chair James Comer (R-KY) claimed that “[m]ountains of evidence reveals that Hunter Biden likely committed several felonies and Americans expect the Justice Department to apply the law equally. Today’s charges are a very small start, but unless U.S. Attorney Weiss investigates everyone involved in the fraud schemes and influence peddling, it will be clear President Biden’s DOJ is protecting Hunter Biden and the big guy.”
Yesterday, President Biden spoke at a campaign reception. “Everybody always asks about impeachment,” he said, but he didn’t think much about it. He noted that Greene had vowed to impeach him the first day she was elected, and said: “I get up every day…not focused on impeachment. I’ve got a job to do. I’ve got to deal with the issues that affect the American people every single solitary day.”
That focus today demonstrated the vision Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris have for the U.S. After yesterday’s meeting between Russia’s president Vladimir Putin and North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un, U.S. national security advisor Jake Sullivan today held a trilateral call with his counterparts in Japan and South Korea, honoring the agreement forged at the historic trilateral summit of the three countries at Camp David in August. Together, they noted that North Korean arms exports to Russia would directly violate multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions, including ones for which Russia itself voted.
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And in Largo, Maryland, today, after listing the economic accomplishments of his administration, Biden called out the Republicans for their lack of policy plans. For all the time they spend attacking Bidenomics, he said, “here’s what they never do: They never talk about what they want to do…. They tell you what they’re against. What are they for? It’s like they want to keep it a secret.”
Biden pointed out that just months ago, Republicans threatened to default on the U.S. debt, and now they are breaking the commitment they made to resolve that standoff. Working from a budget produced in June by the Republican Study Committee, which has 156 out of 222 of the Republican members in the House, Biden explained that Congressional Republicans now are doubling down on the old trickle-down economics that “hollowed out…the middle class…blew up the deficit…produced an anemic economic growth…and…stripped the dignity and pride and hope out of a community, one after another.”
“[Y]ou hear from our friends on the other side, the MAGA Republicans, what’s wrong with America. Everything’s wrong with America. They keep telling us America is failing,” Biden said. “Well, they’re wrong. They’re failing. America is not failing. America is winning. And there’s one reason for it: you. All you people get up every single morning and go out to try to do the right thing. You, the American people—you’re the one with grit and determination. Not me or your elected officials. You.”
“We’re the only nation based on an idea—an idea. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Look,” Biden said, “we’ve never fully lived up to it,’’ but “[w]e’ve never walked away from it.”
“These other guys are trying to walk away from it.”
Heather Cox Richardson, Sep 14, 2024
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Notes: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox/FMfcgzGtxKKgNTGkVczZLgpsSvFRldvZ
Biden pointed out that just months ago, Republicans threatened to default on the U.S. debt, and now they are breaking the commitment they made to resolve that standoff. Working from a budget produced in June by the Republican Study Committee, which has 156 out of 222 of the Republican members in the House, Biden explained that Congressional Republicans now are doubling down on the old trickle-down economics that “hollowed out…the middle class…blew up the deficit…produced an anemic economic growth…and…stripped the dignity and pride and hope out of a community, one after another.”
“[Y]ou hear from our friends on the other side, the MAGA Republicans, what’s wrong with America. Everything’s wrong with America. They keep telling us America is failing,” Biden said. “Well, they’re wrong. They’re failing. America is not failing. America is winning. And there’s one reason for it: you. All you people get up every single morning and go out to try to do the right thing. You, the American people—you’re the one with grit and determination. Not me or your elected officials. You.”
“We’re the only nation based on an idea—an idea. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Look,” Biden said, “we’ve never fully lived up to it,’’ but “[w]e’ve never walked away from it.”
“These other guys are trying to walk away from it.”
Heather Cox Richardson, Sep 14, 2024
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Notes: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox/FMfcgzGtxKKgNTGkVczZLgpsSvFRldvZ
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Personal Note: I met Mitt Romney years ago when he visited a city that hired me to photograph his visit and speech at the Republican headquarters. During the dinner, he made a personal point to stop and speak with me enroute to his table. That shocked me because photographers are always circling the peripheral, we're never in the circle. While we always receive nods and appreciative comments, there's rarely a conversation.
My initial impression was that he was a visionary above party politics. I was right. I hate he's withdrawing. But when GOP extremists threaten your family and you have to spend $5,000 a day on security . . .I mean look what happened to Nancy Pelosi's husband.
Romney is one Republican I would've voted for.
My initial impression was that he was a visionary above party politics. I was right. I hate he's withdrawing. But when GOP extremists threaten your family and you have to spend $5,000 a day on security . . .I mean look what happened to Nancy Pelosi's husband.
Romney is one Republican I would've voted for.
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The GOP is becoming more and more hitlerian in its views.
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All this reads like a political thriller - well it is, I guess. Scary. When it gets to the stage family members are threatened, then you know some seriously dark and evil forces are at work. But they have been for decades, centuries - just not so blatantly, that's how belligerently confident they are now.
However, if nothing else, light is being shone on the darkness. No-one can say "I didn't know it was happening" except by deliberate closed minds. As an aside, those who spoke in the past about dark forces at work in our society were called conspiracy theorists.
However, if nothing else, light is being shone on the darkness. No-one can say "I didn't know it was happening" except by deliberate closed minds. As an aside, those who spoke in the past about dark forces at work in our society were called conspiracy theorists.
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Josh, it's definitely something I would expect from the fiction section. Except it's not fiction. . .
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lovely last line, bless you.