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Josh said:6,000 years of Patriarchy driven by the Abrahamic distortion that is called 'Western Culture'.  What else do you expect?
Perhaps if tantric sex were much more widely practised then there would be far fewer sexually frustrated men who feel a grossly disgusting manipulative need to lord it over woman.


This tantric sex you speak of Josh. Does it require the removal of socks? Older I get, more important such things become (and only half-joking).

You have succinctly hit nail-on-the-head. "Such a little thing, but the difference it makes is huge" as someone once sang.

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I usually don't speak on hot button issues but in my older years I just stopped caring what people think.

As a woman, I think we should leave it legal for emergency situations (yes for me, this includes rape) only so that people don't have to find the back alley people with coat hangers because that's not good either. But, on the subject on just having it be legal all the time, I must disagree but this comes with a caveat: I think we could have it be legal if we increased sex-ed across the board because it's already been shown in states with high levels of high school sex-ed, teen pregnancies were very low. It only makes sense. But with the way it is now, I feel only rape and emergencies are worth doing and that's it. And if we change laws, it should be across all states because state-by-state causes issues when one state is illegal but the nearby state isn't and people just border hop. First we change the sex-ed in schools, then we go back to legalizing it again. Sounds fair to me.

I don't wish to speak too much on my feelings regarding the rights of women to abort because that tends to confuse the core issue and lead to unnecessary arguments more on the point of rights vs. rights rather than the finer details.

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Magdalena said:

I thought the emoji was a sufficient substitute for my original comment

If abortion is made illegal anywhere, then that will bring with it, unwanted children, abused children etc, and as it has already been said here, illegal abortions.
The list goes on...


Margret Sanger would agree. A poor child or from deficient parents is best eliminated. Because only rich parents and genetically sound parents should have children. The Nazis and Bolsheviki just loved such eugenic philosophy. To them, abortions were seen as a way to control the social make up of the society and eliminate the "unwanted".

When I hear people spitting eugenic evil...My stomach aches and I start looking around for the hanging tree just like the ones used to eliminate the "unwanted" Bolsheviki and Nazis child murderers...

"Unwanted children should be removed for the health of the society"

I pray I never utter such evil...

One question though. Does chopping a baby up in the womb constitute "abused children"??

We wouldn't want children to be unwanted or abused so best we kill them in the womb...

How is it even possible a human being that WASN'T aborted and allowed to grow and exist could think such ???

Oh that is right, I forgot..The concern is not for CHILDREN but having the option to have consequence free sex....

I'm glad the parents of the poets here underground choose NOT to abort and allowed their children to live no matter their economic circumstances or pure blood lines.

However, I do believe strongly in aborting eugenicists via the gallows....

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runaway-mindtrain said:

Margret Sanger would agree. A poor child or from deficient parents is best eliminated. Because only rich parents and genetically sound parents should have children. The Nazis and Bolsheviki just loved such eugenic philosophy. To them, abortions were seen as a way to control the social make up of the society and eliminate the "unwanted".

When I hear people spitting eugenic evil...My stomach aches and I start looking around for the hanging tree just like the ones used to eliminate the "unwanted" Bolsheviki and Nazis child murderers...

"Unwanted children should be removed for the health of the society"

I pray I never utter such evil...

One question though. Does chopping a baby up in the womb constitute "abused children"??

We wouldn't want children to be unwanted or abused so best we kill them in the womb...

How is it even possible a human being that WASN'T aborted and allowed to grow and exist could think such ???

Oh that is right, I forgot..The concern is not for CHILDREN but having the option to have consequence free sex....

I'm glad the parents of the poets here underground choose NOT to abort and allowed their children to live no matter their economic circumstances or pure blood lines.

However, I do believe strongly in aborting eugenicists via the gallows....


You have quoted my statement, as that is what it is, a statement, as in 'it will happen' rather than an opinion 'something I believe should happen'

Your retort is a reflection of yourself. Which comes across as angry. I have no time for angry people, so this is the only response you will get from me.

Over and out.

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The supremo court is about to go on vacation until October and nothing has happened.

False alarm

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I am sooooooooo glad abortions are totally legal in Canada.  True. SOME women abuse. They  have repearted abortions.   True there is the ''up in the air'' question about when should be the weeks limit after which  no abortion should be allowed. But the people of Canada do not want to reopen that debate. It is the woman's decision.  Period.

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I'm gonna say this

And its gonna make people feel a certain kind of way

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR125G6s/?k=1

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If only tighter gun control was as easy to pass in the Supreme Court. My view on abortion? It's her right to choose & hers alone, otherwise it's clearly dictatorship & against her human rights!

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how can it be against human rights if it concerns the life of another vulnerable human ?

to be clear, I didn't vote when the referendum was put to Irish people. I canvassed and marched pro-choice.

I have friends, comrades and colleagues who voted for their different choices and respect their convictions

I've spoken to women who have had abortions, some regret it, some don't. I spoken to husband's of women who've had abortions


I just don't buy the 'human rights' because there is a huge clash

I don't buy that men shouldn't offer an opinion. of course they should.

I don't buy that if the topic was left to women everything will be OK.  that's farcical


anyhow, maybe you could expand on the human rights thing, I might get a better understanding

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Her body, her right. That's the human right. Men need to realise they have no say in the matter, however tough because it all boils down to the life being inside her body, not his. If he doesn't want kids, he should think twice about boning her! Yes, I know couples will face difficult & possibly heartbreaking conversations if they both cannot agree but she's the one carrying, not him!

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Why is there so many
SO called human minded
Women
Having obortions
When there are
SO many ways
Not to get pregnant
Yet they do




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Billy_Snagg said:Her body, her right. That's the human right. Men need to realise they have no say in the matter, however tough because it all boils down to the life being inside her body, not his. If he doesn't want kids, he should think twice about boning her! Yes, I know couples will face difficult & possibly heartbreaking conversations if they both cannot agree but she's the one carrying, not him!




fair enough, so we've covered the woman's right, and the man's non right, what about the tiny humans right


what's your opinion of that ?


true, I don't think men (or women) should be able to force women to do anything

that said, you cannot ask / expect people to not have an opinion  . wouldn't that be a bit orwellian ?

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