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SweetKittyCat5
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You can reiterate until the cows come home but you're not going to be able to provide me a century or decade where the US lived peacefully.

In light of the U.S. A.'s history, I would LOVE for you to reference a century or decade where this country was "great"?


This is your initial question, my poetess, and I provided ample examples when that time existed for the residents of Tulsa and Rosewood, have you even read their massacres’ history. I never stated US living in peace.

Please do not take my words out of content, and use as a character against me, this comment was stated to Josh’s statement from my observation before you injected ‘your comment, and became misinformed due to not bothering to take the time to read the beginning interchange between Josh and me.

I try to keep forums respectable of others when sharing information or debating, however, I never once stated American is not without her faults, this is 2023, I do believe we all have read our academic books.

Looking back on all these historical massacres prior to civil unrest and how it correlates to denied reparation, denied asses to the American Dream.

New York City Massacre (Race Riots) 1863, the Memphis Massacre 1899, New Orleans Massacre, the Camilla Massacre 1868, The Opelousas Massacre, St. Bernard Parish 1868, The Vicksburg Massacre 1874, Clinton, Mississippi Massacre, 1875, Carroll Court Courthouse Massacre, 1886, Springfield Massacre 1908, the Atlanta Race Massacre in 1906, Porvenir Massacre 1918, Tulsa Massacre 1921, Rosewood Massacre, 1923,
 
Murdering, without thought, no intent, and no regard for human life.

I could continue to revisit the past, bringing you the aftermath in the present, no, it was never peaceful, and I never stated American as a whole was.

America and racism have infringed upon the civil rights, amendment rights, and have violated the equal/human rights of various races and any harboring countries have systematically dealt with their share of its racism.

Therefore, if you look at the history coming under the European men burdens; it is riddled with jealousy, social disenfranchise, a lack of better judgment, and bestiality. The European man has a foothold in everyone’s history, not to see growth and prosperity.

No, America is historically stated as having a bloody history entrenched with altering the economic relations as a community but as a whole race. The African American’s history marred with lynching, rape, white slavery, tar and feathered, this is your ancestral history not mine, and mine and others who have suffered duress under the detrimental mentality.

If you forget your history, you are bound to repeat it, and yes, I do take into account, with respect, many of those slain citizens of those states/cities, was thriving, according to documented research, they were prominent citizens, self-reliant within their own communities, relying on circulating their money within the community structure to have their future generation(s) reap the benefits of hard work and dedication.

Subsequently, prospering businesses burned to the ground. I am not to be held accountable because certain members of society did not comprehend what, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for others, or refuse to invest in the time of this country to grow as unified citizens mean.

You know there is civil unrest in every country, so please do not try to undermine my intelligent with questions and then show disparity in your findings its elementary my dear.

American is embedded in slavery and the blood seeps from the plantation cotton fields to Selma Alabama during the boycotts and sit ins, segregation, to mass shootings happening here today. I do not want to stray from the presented purposes.

There is no way around history it is manifested by deception, lies, and half-truths. And what your history books failed to conclude; African Americans contributed to the building of America.

From the three-fifth clause, was mandated into law for anyone who was not free, written and documented in the Constitution.

When America was added to that flag, a debt-ridden country founded on an unstable foundation dating back when the majority of those Freemasons drafted the Declaration Of Independence. The beginning of a new frontier yet the Constitution of three-fifth.  Race wars, riots, and genocides (ethnic cleansings) they occurred and not just the stigmatizing of the African American, other races have fallen under the European tyrannical behavioral, rants, uncertainties. We know these atrocities occurred that will always fact remained to be researched farther.

The word, God was amended to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and the reason was not due to a Civil War, we have established that, feel free to research. If it is political, it has a history of its origin.

You and I cannot erase history. But I will answer for it, research it, and advocate for it.  I will go on the record to say in the existence of post-slavery, freedom within itself was freedom and great.


SweetKittyCat5
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You cannot progress any country without religion or money, and yes, they are as one common denominator more than you realize from the Archdiocese getting issued government grants, money collected for offering plate, churches receiving grants to use for non-special spiritual needs, backing of political candidates, not by money, but by media attention, speeches, money for donors to build these mega churches, it take capital and some government grants, or kickbacks Then you have faith-based religion sectors, that modify their accounts to chartable (the so called 501-conporations) a financial means to utilize their funds separately for non-based religion indemnities.

Politics needs the sources of money and vice verses. The establishment of money in Washington buys political/lobbyist favors and invest in foreign trade.

The horrors inflicted on both Tulsa and Rosewood happened in the 1920's. This was over three-decades prior to the second amendment of the Pledge of Allegiance to include 'One Nation Under God' in 1954.

Your initial question was show me a decade where American was ‘Great’, and I verified and reiterated that time frame you asked, in my notes above, and I provided my analogy, and still, I support my initial reply to Josh’s statement, please read in its entirety.

In addition, a question was asked of me and I answered truthfully from my opinion when racism was not a factor, but the history of bigotry, with that being said, racism and slavery always will be a factor, and you know that, its elementary for you not too.

Therefore, I suppose you may be counting cows until they jump over the moon…

Enjoy your evening, my poetess,
SKC  

Ahavati
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When communities such as of Wall Street, in Tulsa, to the streets of Rosewood, were systemically thriving and living in peace. The envy of detrimental minds with superiority complex related issues became a threat to Caucasian dominated American men to test that unity of that mindset. In the end, a two day bloody massacre. ~ SKC

In addition, a question was asked of me and I answered truthfully from my opinion when racism was not a factor, but the history of bigotry, with that being said, racism and slavery always will be a factor, and you know that, its elementary for you not too. ~ SKC

I've known that through this entire discourse. It's the very thing I have been attempting to get you to understand. There has never been a decade of peace in this country that some race wasn't being persecuted by white supremacy.

Let's look at the decade that led up to Rosewood and Tulsa: 1910-20

From 1910 to 1920, an estimated 5,000 people of Mexican descent were killed or vanished in the U.S. Often the violence was so barbaric it attracted the attention of newspapers abroad and the fledgling NAACP. Then, it was forgotten.

Even children became the victims of this violence. In 1911, a mob of over 100 people hanged a 14-year-old boy, Antonio Gómez, after he was arrested for murder. Rather than let him serve time in jail, townspeople lynched him and dragged his body through the streets of Thorndale, Texas.

In 1912 More than 60 Black Americans are lynched this year, part of a larger violent trend in the U.S., as there are nearly 5,000 lynchings throughout the country between 1882 and 1968, mainly of Black men.

1913 Woodrow Wilson's administration establishes federal segregation. Across the United States, federal work environments, lunch areas, and restrooms are segregated. Wilson even throws William Monroe Trotter out of the Oval Office when the civil rights leader comes to discuss the issue with the president on November 12, notes The Atlantic. A century later, students at Princeton University, where Wilson also served as president, will protest how the school has honored him in light of his racist legacy.

In July of 1917 the East St. Louis Race Riot begins. When the two-day riot is over, an estimated 40 people are killed, several hundred are hurt, and thousands are displaced from their homes.

In 1919 several race riots erupt in cities throughout the United States. Johnson names these race riots as the Red Summer of 1919 ( which I previously mentioned ). In response, Claude McKay publishes the poem, "If We Must Die."

Tulsa and Rosewood may have been thriving at that point in history ( 1920's ), however, other black, and Mexican, and Asian communities weren't. And Rosewood and Tulsa didn't last, did it? White supremacy made certain of that.

What I am trying to get you to understand is that there has never been a peaceful decade ( as you have claimed ), much less century, since the United States was founded. Even NOW, to THIS day, with the attacks on our LGBTQ communities by 'religious' beliefs held by politicians.

"As I stated previous, the idea to add Under God was is in part a response to the Civil War and the calamities suffered unto.” ~ SKC

The word, God was amended to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and the reason was not due to a Civil War, we have established that, feel free to research. If it is political, it has a history of its origin.~ SKC

No; it wasn't. It was purely religious in nature pushed by an agenda to amend the constitution to include the word God and Jesus Christ as governor of all nations. I've explained all of this very clearly.

Now that THAT has been established. Please answer my second question:

We have had four years to Make America Great Again, ~ SKC

When was America ever great given our history? What 'greatness' are you trying to get back to? It was merely a campaign slogan of Trump's to ensure the return of white supremacy - that is the greatness that racist bigots are fighting for.

No time to count cows, only facts.

Enjoy your day.







SweetKittyCat5
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What I am trying to get you to understand is that there has never been a peaceful decade (as you have claimed), much less century, since the United States was founded. Even NOW, to THIS day, with the attacks on our LGBTQ communities by 'religious' beliefs held by politicians.

You must ask yourself; how can you get someone to see who is not blind, I know the disdain of American History atrocities from the Knight Templars to how China suffered under Japan.

You have completely disregarded the analogy I made in reference to Black Wall Street, and Rosewood, communities, thriving and living in peace.

Is a person’s household determined by the peace they seek or experience within, or do you find your peace on the streets of society, meaning peace is a state of mind found at that time of discovery or rendering, I think I mentioned ‘peace is a state of mind’ in one of my previous post.

And as I have made my point in comparison. In addition, yes, those citizens of Tulsa and Rosewood, felt peace of being self-reliant, freedom to flourish, and not having to depend upon the European Establishment for handouts or bailouts.

When communities such as of Wall Street, in Tulsa, to the streets of Rosewood, were systemically thriving and living in peace. The envy of detrimental minds with superiority complex related issues became a threat to Caucasian dominated American men to test that unity of that mindset. In the end, a two day bloody massacre. ~ SKC

[b]Yes, these are my words, and as I stated, without wavering from my viewpoint in its original intention. Tulsa and Rosewood were living and thriving in ‘PEACE’ I never once stated US lived peacefully, for a ‘decade’ let alone a ‘century’...

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In light of the U.S. A.'s history, I would LOVE for you to reference a century or decade where this country was "great"?

Those are your verbatim words my poetess, not mine. Therefore, it lacks merit to assuage the meaning of your quote, indicating, something I never stated in my essay in general, refresh, and look back.

What I am trying to get you to understand is that there has never been a peaceful decade (as you have claimed), much less century, since the United States was founded. Even NOW, to THIS day, with the attacks on our LGBTQ communities by 'religious' beliefs held by politicians.

I have never claimed this or stated this.

In the near future, if you are trying to make a point, and I utter this out of respect, and not to ever being held libel for a false declaration, please withhold the notion of your words from classifying them as words not quoted by others.

I stated that to lessen the confusion of who said what and to defend for a false narrative if occurred and yours seem to continue to occur in nature..

It appears, you are becoming displaced in the foundation of your own narrative, my poetess, you have shown me what has already been displayed from the both of us, the reckoning of the History of America and its brutality, race wars, massacres, with that being said, do you really think your time frame will sway from the presented narrative.

Then to add insult to the receptive replies. You continue to struggle with the fact, you are narrating your own assumptions, asking questions from an objective point of view with words you have invented time after time, and it changes the entire course of the narrative.

So, I will allow my Historic Research into the uprise and downfall of Black Wall Street and its citizens to be revered of its prosperous entrepreneurs when experiencing peace was their purpose, their main goal… until.

Little Known Historical Facts of Black Wall Street

When did the burning of Black Wall Street happen?

On May 31 and June 1, 1921, mobs of white residents attacked Black residents, homes, and businesses, as well as cultural and public institutions in the Greenwood District of Tulsa, OK, an oil boom city. Greenwood was also known as "Black Wall Street," one of the wealthiest Black communities in the United States.

"Black Wall Street," one of the wealthiest Black communities in the United States.
 
Who was the richest man in Black Wall Street?
O.W. Gurley
Born   Ottaway W. GurleyDecember 25, 1867 Huntsville, Alabama, U.S.
Died   August 6, 1935 (aged 67) Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Occupation(s)   Businessman and real-estate developer
Known for   Greenwood District, Tulsa, aka "Black Wall Street"

What made Black Wall Street so successful?

Black Wall Street was one of the most successful African American communities in the United States at the time. Black entrepreneurs had created a community of attorneys, real estate agents, doctors, and other small businesses that made the area self-sustaining and prosperous.

That compiled listing plays no significance or spirits any credence. I do not need to reread a history that consists of mob lynchings, civil unrest, cross burning, beating, or the direct aftermath of such, I think I have added my own, in the precious post, and that was just the 1800-early 1920’s
.

‘I agree with you, there is power in the communities, but first we must come together as a nation, where colors do not hinder our growth to be the great country we once were, where that saying, “One Nation Under God’ was prevalent.’

I am focusing my intellect on Black Wall Street to advise you there actually were certain communities living in peace, showcasing their hard work of dedication. Money circulating hand over hand, it was the within communities in the United States.

Where African Americans invested in self, and about self. In essence, this was my initial statement to clarify that stance on behalf of the citizens of Black Wall Street, under no circumstance did I ever stated US lived peacefully or in peace.

We have already established America and its ancestral atrocities to minorities and underprivileged citizens were brutal.

Here are the better days of Black Wall Street what a prevalent time for those citizens to taste the rewards of their own American Dream by building their own Utopia into an economic structure of success ordained into their bearing from beautiful hues of their skin color… until

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/05/24/us/tulsa-race-massacre.html

(Please watch this is very short, but informative)


Genesis 2:24

Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

This religion scripture has always upheld the cornerstone of traditional values of society or the unit of the family unit. That is a bipartisan agreement in both house of Congress.



SweetKittyCat5
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This is a footnote to your previous post statements and your question.

In the 1800's we had the women's suffrage movement. How many women were beaten, raped, imprisoned, force-fed, and murdered because they, like the African Americans & Native American simply wanted the right to be considered a HUMAN BEING?

Yes, forgive me for saying and always out of respect to clarify historical facts, who were the men beating and raping these women, force-fed, and I strongly disagree, they were not like African American and Native women.

Those same women whom you are speaking in reference to, are the majority of Caucasian women who socially rebelled to raise their voices in defiance against the dominance of their men.

They may not have had rights and privileges, but they had choices in their everyday daily life, Caucasian women were suppressed to work outside the home, or vote, hold office, and when married their property was considered their spouses, but they can sell and buy slaves, that fight was not the African American fight, those raised voices to change, it was frustrated women feeling no more important than the slaves, a presence in society, a silent voice, with no rights, by the rights of the 15th Amendment until the 1919 and the 19th amendment giving woman permission to vote.

However, African Americans still faced several barriers in several states to cast a vote, not until the passing of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 during the Civil Rights Movement.


The Pledge of Allegiance was modified to promote the agenda of white supremacy, whose next target to amend was the constitution, which I previously mentioned and even quoted their proposed amendment to declare God almighty sovereign and Jesus Christ governor of all nations.

The idea to add Under God was is in part a response is stated below

https://coldwarheartland.ku.edu/legacies/united-states

Oh, you did ask this of me


We have had four years to Make America Great Again, then a sitting democratic president who forced the country to be inoculated with a vaccine that was not initially mandated, brought our troops back from Afghanistan, and opened our borders...

If time does allow and fate does prevail. We have a possible presidential candidate, whom I feel is out of touch with reality and could be considered a closet racist.

See this is where those snippets make you appear ill-prepared to elevate your relevant points. at times. I suppose you cannot comprehend a suggestive parallel in comparison hypothesis, and the variables of its possibilities. Read the sentence within the complete narrative.

Well, I'm happy we can agree on at least one thing. No time to count cows, only facts.

Good… and while you are counting facts, you can retain the cows, hum… they never did make it home.

Happy International Women's Day, enjoy your evening,
SKC



Carpe_Noctem
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Attacks on the LBGTQ Community
What shit are you chatting.
Those minor attracted personalities of that community are abhorrent.
Anyone who thinks sex with a minor is acceptable,  or who defends that type of behaviour
Is a fucking pedophile, end of discussion

The only attack here is from drag queen storytime and their attacks on children and the very fabric of reality.

The rainbow flag is now the new nazi flag

I'd also add, this an attack on the nuclear family.

Ahavati
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SKC - very simply, when was America Great? What "Great" are you trying to get back to?

You think America was great because Rosewood and Tulsa were thriving despite the atrocities I listed happening in other parts of the country involving murders, rape, and beatings of Native & African Americans, Latino, and Asian minorities?

If THAT's your definition of "Make American Great Again!!!!!!!" and what you're trying to get back to, just know that outside of Tulsa and Rosewood the atrocities that would all too soon befall them were happening to other communities and people across this land. LGBTQ's would be included had they not been thankfully hiding in the closet during that time.

But by all means, remain in the confines of those city limits.

The ONLY time this land was great, and the only people it was great for were white supremist racist bigots who controlled and/or owned human beings as property: women, African Americans, Mexicans, and Asians. And the moment that property realized it was human and had rights is when the real fight for freedom and equality began.

And it has not stopped yet because those white supremist racist bigots are fighting to return and hold onto it so "America will be GREAT again! God be the Glory! and Jesus Christ the governor of all lands!"

The only thing that this country has going for it is the right to fight for personal and religious freedom, because it certainly didn't RING across the nation for those who weren't white or Christian. Just ask the Native Americans. They were here first.


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SweetKittyCat5 said:
Well, I'm happy we can agree on at least one thing. No time to count cows, only facts.

Good… and while you are counting facts, you can retain the cows, hum… they never did make it home.

Happy International Women's Day, enjoy your evening,
SKC




I really enjoyed reading your engaging posts! Somehow you pulled it off. Not easy, considering the sparring partner you engaged. I nearly drowned… 😵 (and was just reading)

Something to consider is the Vatican’s involvement in politics. I believe they had a hand in making religious divisions in politics.  They hated that America was a Protestant nation, founded to escape religious tyranny. So the worst attack they could make was bringing religion into politics while illegally importing as many Catholics as possible! (Irish were the first, before the Catholics started using Latinos)

I personally oppose secular oath-making as a religious person. Certainly it’s grooming religious children into politics to put God and country in the same breath, unless you are speaking of the heavenly country all Christians are a part of.

This nation was founded by religious Protestant persons due to persecution and fleeing for refuge.


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Carpe_Noctem said:Attacks on the LBGTQ Community
What shit are you chatting.
Those minor attracted personalities of that community are abhorrent.


They are abhorrent!

Behold, the work of Jesuits… at least that’s the first thing that pops into my head…



Anyone who thinks sex with a minor is acceptable,  or who defends that type of behaviour
Is a fucking pedophile, end of discussion


My oldest child is a married parent; my youngest is in my womb.

I have no problem with adult teenagers getting married, which is not what pedophilia is about. I married a few days after my 18 birthday. My oldest married at nearly 19. (Or had she turned 19? I forget - we’re not close anymore - I didn’t go to her wedding, either!)

So if we are talking real marriage between two people that see each other as peers and adults, I don’t care if they are 18 or even a few years younger!

But that’s entirely different from degenerates who want to diddle children.

The only attack here is from drag queen storytime and their attacks on children and the very fabric of reality.

Don’t forget Catholic drag-mass for teens!

The rainbow flag is now the new nazi flag

I'd also add, this an attack on the nuclear family.


Don’t forget the connection between Catholics and Nazis. Although I know that Catholics are two distinct creatures fighting mortal combat - in one religious body.

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It’s Okay to be Black

If you’re black
it’s okay

You are not
part of a hate group
it’s not a brand

It’s not a fad
not a political movement
not a club membership

It’s not an ideology
not a religion
not a citizenship
not an ethnicity
not even an identity

It’s just a
fact of life
and it’s okay

It will always
be that way

It’s okay to be black
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EdibleWords said:Scott Adams is shook. He’s shocked at the percentage of those depicted in the poll as black and not okay with white people. The poll is  not going to change my mind about black people, however.

https://news.yahoo.com/dilbert-guy-tells-white-people-192734727.html





Another recent poll showed that nearly 40% of black people state that it is NOT ok to he white.

So Black people are the victim? Again...More like they are black supremacists that claim victimhood status to gain special treatment...

But absolutely forbid all other races to show pride.  When they have been given special treatment for so long that if they have to actual show equal treatment for others then they claim discrimination...

BTW, I have never heard anyone say it was bad to be black. But I have only to turn on MSDNC and hear anti white bigot racism spit every goddamn day and very few black people call it out...

I support Black conservatives that are not on the democrat plantation. Black democrats are race hustlers that lie and slander whom ever to stay in power. The white democrats just love it...They continue to claim solidarity with minority groups in order to keep them under their buckle...

"White liberals use black liberals to attack black conservatives"- Malcolm X
"Black people that vote democrat are traitors to their race"- Malcolm X


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EdibleWords said:

Don’t forget the connection between Catholics and Nazis. Although I know that Catholics are two distinct creatures fighting mortal combat - in one religious body.


Pedophiles will defend Pedophilia. There are lists of excuses why grown men should do a strip show in front of children. A list compiled by pedophiles. Neo liberals will support everything their elitist online masters tell them to support.

Instead of protecting children they throw out bullshit references and cop out excuses.

If a female stripper did this she would be arrested but, put a man in a dress and every liberal will fight for his right to sexualize kids.

There is nothing too sick or evil that neo leftists won't stand up for...

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SweetKittyCat5 said:You can reiterate until the cows come home but you're not going to be able to provide me a century or decade where the US lived peacefully.

In light of the U.S. A.'s history, I would LOVE for you to reference a century or decade where this country was "great"?


This is your initial question, my poetess, and I provided ample examples when that time existed for the residents of Tulsa and Rosewood, have you even read their massacres’ history. I never stated US living in peace.

Please do not take my words out of content, and use as a character against me, this comment was stated to Josh’s statement from my observation before you injected ‘your comment, and became misinformed due to not bothering to take the time to read the beginning interchange between Josh and me.

I try to keep forums respectable of others when sharing information or debating, however, I never once stated American is not without her faults, this is 2023, I do believe we all have read our academic books.

Looking back on all these historical massacres prior to civil unrest and how it correlates to denied reparation, denied asses to the American Dream.

New York City Massacre (Race Riots) 1863, the Memphis Massacre 1899, New Orleans Massacre, the Camilla Massacre 1868, The Opelousas Massacre, St. Bernard Parish 1868, The Vicksburg Massacre 1874, Clinton, Mississippi Massacre, 1875, Carroll Court Courthouse Massacre, 1886, Springfield Massacre 1908, the Atlanta Race Massacre in 1906, Porvenir Massacre 1918, Tulsa Massacre 1921, Rosewood Massacre, 1923,
 
Murdering, without thought, no intent, and no regard for human life.

I could continue to revisit the past, bringing you the aftermath in the present, no, it was never peaceful, and I never stated American as a whole was.

America and racism have infringed upon the civil rights, amendment rights, and have violated the equal/human rights of various races and any harboring countries have systematically dealt with their share of its racism.

Therefore, if you look at the history coming under the European men burdens; it is riddled with jealousy, social disenfranchise, a lack of better judgment, and bestiality. The European man has a foothold in everyone’s history, not to see growth and prosperity.

No, America is historically stated as having a bloody history entrenched with altering the economic relations as a community but as a whole race. The African American’s history marred with lynching, rape, white slavery, tar and feathered, this is your ancestral history not mine, and mine and others who have suffered duress under the detrimental mentality.

If you forget your history, you are bound to repeat it, and yes, I do take into account, with respect, many of those slain citizens of those states/cities, was thriving, according to documented research, they were prominent citizens, self-reliant within their own communities, relying on circulating their money within the community structure to have their future generation(s) reap the benefits of hard work and dedication.

Subsequently, prospering businesses burned to the ground. I am not to be held accountable because certain members of society did not comprehend what, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for others, or refuse to invest in the time of this country to grow as unified citizens mean.

You know there is civil unrest in every country, so please do not try to undermine my intelligent with questions and then show disparity in your findings its elementary my dear.

American is embedded in slavery and the blood seeps from the plantation cotton fields to Selma Alabama during the boycotts and sit ins, segregation, to mass shootings happening here today. I do not want to stray from the presented purposes.

There is no way around history it is manifested by deception, lies, and half-truths. And what your history books failed to conclude; African Americans contributed to the building of America.

From the three-fifth clause, was mandated into law for anyone who was not free, written and documented in the Constitution.

When America was added to that flag, a debt-ridden country founded on an unstable foundation dating back when the majority of those Freemasons drafted the Declaration Of Independence. The beginning of a new frontier yet the Constitution of three-fifth.  Race wars, riots, and genocides (ethnic cleansings) they occurred and not just the stigmatizing of the African American, other races have fallen under the European tyrannical behavioral, rants, uncertainties. We know these atrocities occurred that will always fact remained to be researched farther.

The word, God was amended to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954, and the reason was not due to a Civil War, we have established that, feel free to research. If it is political, it has a history of its origin.

You and I cannot erase history. But I will answer for it, research it, and advocate for it.  I will go on the record to say in the existence of post-slavery, freedom within itself was freedom and great.

I was taught a lot about black Americans in school. I was also taught about Democrat history. In recent years Democrats have once again tried to cover up their evil by by attempting to rewrite history. Currently, the move to label their past as "white" history instead of Democrat history. Democrats in this thread specifically CHANGE factual historical events done by racist DEMOCRATS and simply say white. Mainly to make themselves feel better about supporting the slave party.

White people fought and died then and now for civil liberties. They are call REPUBLICANS

The revisionist then try to label the people that outlawed all the Democrat racist laws as ....bigots. to then further cover up their crimes.

Trump derangement syndrome is all they got.left. Since the current administration has done nothing except rape America they default to their old school lie ...blame their current and past bullshit on their opposition..

"Accuse your opponent of that which you are guilty"-  Joseph Goebbels
"Project your crimes upon your enemy to cause confusion"- Trotsky

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runaway-mindtrain said:

Another recent poll showed that nearly 40% of black people state that it is NOT ok to he white.

So Black people are the victim? Again...More like they are black supremacists that claim victimhood status to gain special treatment...

But absolutely forbid all other races to show pride.  When they have been given special treatment for so long that if they have to actual show equal treatment for others then they claim discrimination...

BTW, I have never heard anyone say it was bad to be black. But I have only to turn on MSDNC and hear anti white bigot racism spit every goddamn day and very few black people call it out...

I support Black conservatives that are not on the democrat plantation. Black democrats are race hustlers that lie and slander whom ever to stay in power. The white democrats just love it...They continue to claim solidarity with minority groups in order to keep them under their buckle...

"White liberals use black liberals to attack black conservatives"- Malcolm X
"Black people that vote democrat are traitors to their race"- Malcolm X



I agree with both you and Malcolm X.

However, all races have experienced systemic racism in America to this day. Scapegoating and incitement are endemic.

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SKC - very simply, when was America Great? What "Great" are you trying to get back to?

We have had four years to Make America Great Again, then a sitting democratic president who forced the country to be inoculated with a vaccine that was not initially mandated, brought our troops back from Afghanistan,and opened our boarders...

If time does allow and fate does prevail. We have a possible presidential candidate, whom I feel is out of touch with reality and could be considered a closet racist.

My original statement as noted above. It is referred to as a suggestive parallel in comparison hypothesis, and the variables of its possibilities of past, present and future. Read the sentence within the complete narrative

I think I validated, my stance on this in my previous post, stop for a minute, inhale, and exhale, I am French Haitian Creole by blood and by lineage.

Do you really think I would actually see differently from your eyes, to not know African Americans have suffered under the Caucasian man, and even worse under Arab slavery.

It is like preaching to air that has accepted the past as it is. And have left the non-conformity of America to change in the wind.

But you continue to state,as if,  I have taken on this crusade to find when American was great. I have truthfully declared what that statement means to me, Make America Great Again is metaphor....

Reread its justification and please move on from that expired weak argument, based on your words and your assumptions. If this is how you argue your vague points, you do not know the art of debate, my dear. It is not about reiterating the validity of a loss point of view, it is  about reassessing and researching to what is being proposed to bring its key elements into retrospect and a better understanding with additional accounts to discuss..  

You think America was great because Rosewood and Tulsa were thriving despite the atrocities I listed happening in other parts of the country involving murders, rape, and beatings of African American, Latino, and Asian minorities?

You posted this--- In the 1800's we had the women's suffrage movement. How many women were beaten, raped, imprisoned, force-fed, and murdered because they, like the African Americans & Native American simply wanted the right to be considered a HUMAN BEING?

Along with addition horrific dates found in the archives of history, which, if I was not human I would not acknowledge with remorse. However, the Greenwood district in Tulsa,Oklahoma, with what will be considered here today as, Black Wall Street,  was erected in 1905, until its community demise in 1921.

I would say Black Wall Street did prosper,  it thrived, and it was peaceful, I cannot elaborate on the outside of what conspired with everyone else.

You know the racial history of America is straightforward and it has never changed.

Did you not watch the enclosed video I provided did you read their history, they were considered the wealthiest black communities in the U.S, and, I have never strayed off my original argument?  

Now ask yourself, did I not begin my narrative in comparison to what thriving and peace meant to me while showcasing the citizens of Black Wall Street, and to my preference and exclusion of Latino and the Asian struggle.

Come on, my poetess you are of legal age to decipher that, if not, look back, at the original interchange between Josh and I, therefore, you can narrate your research, your findings, their struggles and their disparities at your own leisure, they were not driving point of my informative narrative.

I did not reference Latino and Asian minorities, I listed whom the narrative was stated and justified for. You want to discuss their disparities then open your political Forum to discuss.

I will incur my findings as well...

If THAT's your definition of "Make American Great Again!!!!!!!" and what you're trying to get back to, just know that outside of Tulsa and Rosewood the atrocities that would all too soon befall them were happening to other communities and people across this land. LGBTQ's would be included had they not been thankfully hiding in the closet during that time.

I do not comment who was hiding in the closet, I will have to take it for the words you stated. I can always discern when a debate has become stalled in analogies, and the challenger has nothing further to add, or refuse to articulate the presented logic replies. In addition, the question, no matter how arranged in its composition, it still remains the same in its intentions; during this pivotal time it is classified as becoming redundant.

As I stated, there is no need to reiterate factual accounts. I have answered all your questions for questions with you, I have shown impeccable evidence to refute or, provided links. And yet, after all that you asked me a question that was proven by merit. A question that begins with an assumption.

But by all means, remain in the confines of those city limits.

The ONLY time this land was great, and the only people it was great for were white supremist racist bigots who controlled and/or owned human beings as property: women, African Americans, Mexicans, and Asians. And the moment that property realized it was human and had rights is when the real fight for freedom and equality began.

And it has not stopped yet because those white supremist racist bigots are fighting to return and hold onto it so "America will be GREAT again! God be the Glory! and Jesus Christ the governor of all lands!"

The only thing that this country has going for it is the right to fight for personal and religious freedom, because it certainly didn't RING across the nation for those who weren't white or Christian. Just ask the Native Americans.


As a female and the embodiment of knowledge, ordained from my lineage. You are trying to teach a learned mind that is deeply rooted in my own history as well as others. And is failing miserably, what have you brought new to this a discussion, my poetess, you keep hammering home a point that holds no validity for a time in history that can never be changed, or its finding altered to fit the presented circumstances at best.

Trump had four years to Make American Great Again, and with the Democratic push back, he did not get another four years to make that happen.

A sitting president who has destroyed the key factors to move this economy forward, displacing citizens out of jobs, opened our boarders after rescinding Donald Trump title 42 policy on open boarders, and early deployment of our troops who were safeguard Afghanistan and its citizen, leaving some of our best military equipment behind.

And you have a potential Governor who may be seeking the White House, who I believe has racial undertones as his campaign bid is becomes evident.

Listen to Ron DeSantis’ speeches and read his book.. I will be speaking more about him during my Straight Talk Live pieces.

I do believe I have answered all the interchangeable questions at lib and with integrity and historical facts to be more accurate.

More additional information on Black Wall Street

https://www.history.com/news/tulsa-massacre-black-wall-street-before-and-after-photos

Enjoy your day., my poetess.

https://immigrantjustice.org/staff/blog/recycling-trumps-asylum-bans-expanding-title-42-how-bidens-new-policies-threaten

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We have had four years to Make America Great Again, then [. . . ] ~SKC

Along with addition horrific dates found in the archives of history, which, if I was not human I would not acknowledge with remorse. However, the Greenwood district in Tulsa, Oklahoma, with what will be considered here today as, Black Wall Street, was erected in 1905, until its community demise in 1921.

You're absolutely right, SKC! We should make America Great Again! Let's go back to the time of Tulsa between 1905 and 1921 when it was thriving prior to its demise, despite the list of horrors I posted occurring between 1900-1920 in other parts of the country - which would, eventually be the demise of Tulsa too.

Metaphor, political campaign, analogy, idiom, red baseball hat, bumper sticker, t-shirt, billboard, or any other reference I may be inadvertently omitting, "Make America Great Again" is fictitious on any account because it has never been great to begin with.

There is nothing to return to that wasn't surrounded by murder, rape, beatings, thievery, and destruction - which would eventually destroy the very things you keep mentioning returning to: Tulsa and Rosewood.

The windshield is larger than the rearview mirror for a reason. Let's not look back to "Make America Great Again" - let's look ahead to "Make America Great" for the first time in history—because there is nothing, no decade or century that decent human beings who are abhorred by historic atrocities would EVER want to return to, much less refer to as "great again".

But you go right ahead and advocate for it. Metaphor or not.

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