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Strangeways_Rob said:https://youtu.be/Vv9iZ6Aj8oM
You should also investigate the eugenic. separate but equal, anti miscegenation, lynching Democrats in 30s America. The Nazis got their Nuremburg laws from the Jim Crow laws of that party that forced businesses to hire according to race.
That same party currently pushes racial segregation, state control of businesses, violence towards conservatives and censoring speech and the free press. They are destroying my country ever since they installed Biden. Much like Hitler and the Bolsheviks were placed into power instead of being elected...
You should also investigate the eugenic. separate but equal, anti miscegenation, lynching Democrats in 30s America. The Nazis got their Nuremburg laws from the Jim Crow laws of that party that forced businesses to hire according to race.
That same party currently pushes racial segregation, state control of businesses, violence towards conservatives and censoring speech and the free press. They are destroying my country ever since they installed Biden. Much like Hitler and the Bolsheviks were placed into power instead of being elected...
rabbitquest said:In only 93 days, not only did biden get half the people vaccinated (the democrats), but it looks like at least in
The hills of kentucky
He has global warming licked as well
You are correct with Trumps vaccine programs started a year ago when Jim Crow Biden was still in his basement... I am so glad Biden fixed global warming, though. They switched the name to climate change since 20 years ago the temperature stopped rising and started going down each year. That messed up their narrative of global control via global warming. Thus the repackaging of the name.
The hills of kentucky
He has global warming licked as well
You are correct with Trumps vaccine programs started a year ago when Jim Crow Biden was still in his basement... I am so glad Biden fixed global warming, though. They switched the name to climate change since 20 years ago the temperature stopped rising and started going down each year. That messed up their narrative of global control via global warming. Thus the repackaging of the name.
Northern_Soul said:
This is pretty much where I’m at. Not just with the pandemic, but with life also. And probably why I’m so ridiculously picky about who I let into my space, because my peace is important to me.
I was having a conversation with some friends of mine in our weekly Skype meet-up (we’ve been Skyping in lieu of real life meet ups... because lockdown...) and many of us have stopped watching the news altogether. It’s interesting to see the effect of that across a group of people. Bottom line is... we’re just happier without it.
At first I worried about this a bit... then realised Y’know what, it’s actually a revolutionary act, because I’m not being told what to believe. I’m making my own choices and decisions based on the information available to me. It’s unfiltered and unbiased. And you’re right, we do indeed get to choose what we fill our minds and our life with.
(Nearly had a bit of an “oh captain, my captain!” moment there
)
Great move!!!. I cut off cable TV 15 years ago and immediately my head reset from the propaganda and advertisement sorcery I had been inundated with since childhood. I get current and historical events and info directly from sources I choose online and books. Which are almost never main stream or social media. You will know more truth and have less mind manipulation from now on...
Bravo poet. Welcome to free world of ideas from independent sources ...
This is pretty much where I’m at. Not just with the pandemic, but with life also. And probably why I’m so ridiculously picky about who I let into my space, because my peace is important to me.
I was having a conversation with some friends of mine in our weekly Skype meet-up (we’ve been Skyping in lieu of real life meet ups... because lockdown...) and many of us have stopped watching the news altogether. It’s interesting to see the effect of that across a group of people. Bottom line is... we’re just happier without it.
At first I worried about this a bit... then realised Y’know what, it’s actually a revolutionary act, because I’m not being told what to believe. I’m making my own choices and decisions based on the information available to me. It’s unfiltered and unbiased. And you’re right, we do indeed get to choose what we fill our minds and our life with.
(Nearly had a bit of an “oh captain, my captain!” moment there
) Great move!!!. I cut off cable TV 15 years ago and immediately my head reset from the propaganda and advertisement sorcery I had been inundated with since childhood. I get current and historical events and info directly from sources I choose online and books. Which are almost never main stream or social media. You will know more truth and have less mind manipulation from now on...
Bravo poet. Welcome to free world of ideas from independent sources ...
So here's a topic , going on in America right now: student loan forgiveness, which basically is a push to pass a bill to cancel out student debt. Below is a copy paste from facebook , my thoughts on the topic, that I posted in response to someone's post, there, after they compared it to being a "right", just like getting treatment for a sickness is a "right" .
What are your thoughts?
Ok I'm gonna be the punching bag, here.... First of all, the Kimberly Harris quote above is basically comparing two things that are polar opposites: education and sickness . People make a choice to get a college education, and we do not choose to get sick-- that happens without our say in the matter, so yes, we should have cures for illnesses .
For the education debt, that is a financial burden you choose to take on, just like buying a house or a car-- there's no debt forgiveness for those , are there? How about every other purchase we make ?
Where is this student loan forgiveness money going to come from ? From everyone that pays taxes -- you and me. Sorry , but I've already paid for 3 higher education degrees IN CASH with no loans . I paid for my own Batchelors degree back in the 1980's by working 2 jobs while going to school, and I paid for my daughter's Batchelors and Masters , again while working 2 jobs, as an adult. She and I are both debt free, and it can be done .
So here's what I think should actually be done: lower the cost of education so it's actually more within reach and doable to pay for. Each course shouldn't cost between $2000-4000 dollars, especially for an online independent study class , then all the fluff fees added on. Yes, the schools need to make their money , but a lot of it doesn't even go to the classrooms. I taught at a college for 8 years as an instructor for lab tech students and we had to beg for cash to buy basic lab supplies, get our own outside grants, and use expired reagents & donated leftovers from the regional hospitals . I certainly didn't see any of the $2000-4000 course fee money in my adjunct paycheck , but it was enough to help pay for my daughter's own overpriced courses. Example : one of the annual courses I taught was a clinical practicum, off campus at regional hospitals. Each student paid about 2K for each rotation as we call them , so for 9 students, that's 18K the college earns for a class not even held on campus . My contract for that was about $1200 before taxes , so where's the rest of the $16,800 going ?
Yes, we need higher education but affordably so. I propose that instead of total debt forgiveness at the expense of the taxpayer, there should be a partial percentage forgiveness at the expense of the colleges that overcharged the students in the first place -- make a law that says they have to redo their fee system, to something realistically affordable , then make it retroactive for X- number of years, and start giving out refunds to students. I'll bet that will cancel a good chunk of their debt, and the rest they can pay themselves because they made a choice to make that purchase .
What are your thoughts?
Ok I'm gonna be the punching bag, here.... First of all, the Kimberly Harris quote above is basically comparing two things that are polar opposites: education and sickness . People make a choice to get a college education, and we do not choose to get sick-- that happens without our say in the matter, so yes, we should have cures for illnesses .
For the education debt, that is a financial burden you choose to take on, just like buying a house or a car-- there's no debt forgiveness for those , are there? How about every other purchase we make ?
Where is this student loan forgiveness money going to come from ? From everyone that pays taxes -- you and me. Sorry , but I've already paid for 3 higher education degrees IN CASH with no loans . I paid for my own Batchelors degree back in the 1980's by working 2 jobs while going to school, and I paid for my daughter's Batchelors and Masters , again while working 2 jobs, as an adult. She and I are both debt free, and it can be done .
So here's what I think should actually be done: lower the cost of education so it's actually more within reach and doable to pay for. Each course shouldn't cost between $2000-4000 dollars, especially for an online independent study class , then all the fluff fees added on. Yes, the schools need to make their money , but a lot of it doesn't even go to the classrooms. I taught at a college for 8 years as an instructor for lab tech students and we had to beg for cash to buy basic lab supplies, get our own outside grants, and use expired reagents & donated leftovers from the regional hospitals . I certainly didn't see any of the $2000-4000 course fee money in my adjunct paycheck , but it was enough to help pay for my daughter's own overpriced courses. Example : one of the annual courses I taught was a clinical practicum, off campus at regional hospitals. Each student paid about 2K for each rotation as we call them , so for 9 students, that's 18K the college earns for a class not even held on campus . My contract for that was about $1200 before taxes , so where's the rest of the $16,800 going ?
Yes, we need higher education but affordably so. I propose that instead of total debt forgiveness at the expense of the taxpayer, there should be a partial percentage forgiveness at the expense of the colleges that overcharged the students in the first place -- make a law that says they have to redo their fee system, to something realistically affordable , then make it retroactive for X- number of years, and start giving out refunds to students. I'll bet that will cancel a good chunk of their debt, and the rest they can pay themselves because they made a choice to make that purchase .
MadameLavender said:
So here's a topic , going on in America right now: student loan forgiveness, which basically is a push to pass a bill cancel out student debt. Below is a copy paste from facebook , my thoughts on the topic, that I posted in response to someone's post, there, after they compared it to being a "right", just like getting treatment for a sickness is a "right" .
What are your thoughts?
Ok I'm gonna be the punching bag, here.... First of all, the Kimberly Harris quote above is basically comparing two things that are polar opposites: education and sickness . People make a choice to get a college education, and we do not choose to get sick-- that happens without our say in the matter, so yes, we should have cures for illnesses .
For the education debt, that is a financial burden you choose to take on, just like buying a house or a car-- there's no debt forgiveness for those , are there? How about every other purchase we make ?
Where is this student loan forgiveness money going to come from ? From everyone that pays taxes -- you and me. Sorry , but I've already paid for 3 higher education degrees IN CASH with no loans . I paid for my own Batchelors degree back in the 1980's by working 2 jobs while going to school, and I paid for my daughter's Batchelors and Masters , again while working 2 jobs, as an adult. She and I are both debt free, and it can be done .
So here's what I think should actually be done: lower the cost of education so it's actually more within reach and doable to pay for. Each course shouldn't cost between $2000-4000 dollars, especially for an online independent study class , then all the fluff fees added on. Yes, the schools need to make their money , but a lot of it doesn't even go to the classrooms. I taught at a college for 8 years as an instructor for lab tech students and we had to beg for cash to buy basic lab supplies, get our own outside grants, and use expired reagents & donated leftovers from the regional hospitals . I certainly didn't see any of the $2000-4000 course fee money in my adjunct paycheck , but it was enough to help pay for my daughter's own overpriced courses. Example : one of the annual courses I taught was a clinical practicum, off campus at regional hospitals. Each student paid about 2K for each rotation as we call them , so for 9 students, that's 18K the college earns for a class not even held on campus . My contract for that was about $1200 before taxes , so where's the rest of the $16,800 going ?
Yes, we need higher education but affordably so. I propose that instead of total debt forgiveness at the expense of the taxpayer, there should be a partial percentage forgiveness at the expense of the colleges that overcharged the students in the first place -- make a law that says they have to redo their fee system, to something realistically affordable , then make it retroactive for X- number of years, and start giving out refunds to students. I'll bet that will cancel a good chunk of their debt, and the rest they can pay themselves because they made a choice to make that purchase ..
I won't say much on the specifics of this issue. As I see it, student loans should be paid back just like any other debt. Future tuition "could" be paid through federal taxes., but that presents many inherent problems..In the past, the resistance against this federal payment has usually come from Universities. With government money, comes government requirements, something the controlling hierarchies in the scholastic system don't want. Currently, schools are able to make decisions right or wrong, with little consequence. Money that comes into the school is used however without government oversight or regulations. In fact, universities are able to autonomously act and manipulate at will. Government funding and with it government regulations have been the norm in more socialistic countries. I don't trust universities to do the "right" thing for students. I also don't trust Congress to do anything "right" for students or the country. Separation of government and church has shown to be the best for freedom of religion. Separation of federal government and education has allowed great and terrible schools to exist. I tend towards as much private industry separate from government intrusions and regulations as possible. That is the America experiment. It is the benefit of freedom and the price we pay for freedom. Elected education beyond the already tax payer provided 12 years is the adult student's decision. The cost is theirs. Entitlement philosophy is a weak dogma that makes for weak people. Being coddled and given everything is a sure fire way to create a failure of a person. That certainly applies to adult students that will have to pay for everything else in life after graduation regardless...
So here's a topic , going on in America right now: student loan forgiveness, which basically is a push to pass a bill cancel out student debt. Below is a copy paste from facebook , my thoughts on the topic, that I posted in response to someone's post, there, after they compared it to being a "right", just like getting treatment for a sickness is a "right" .
What are your thoughts?
Ok I'm gonna be the punching bag, here.... First of all, the Kimberly Harris quote above is basically comparing two things that are polar opposites: education and sickness . People make a choice to get a college education, and we do not choose to get sick-- that happens without our say in the matter, so yes, we should have cures for illnesses .
For the education debt, that is a financial burden you choose to take on, just like buying a house or a car-- there's no debt forgiveness for those , are there? How about every other purchase we make ?
Where is this student loan forgiveness money going to come from ? From everyone that pays taxes -- you and me. Sorry , but I've already paid for 3 higher education degrees IN CASH with no loans . I paid for my own Batchelors degree back in the 1980's by working 2 jobs while going to school, and I paid for my daughter's Batchelors and Masters , again while working 2 jobs, as an adult. She and I are both debt free, and it can be done .
So here's what I think should actually be done: lower the cost of education so it's actually more within reach and doable to pay for. Each course shouldn't cost between $2000-4000 dollars, especially for an online independent study class , then all the fluff fees added on. Yes, the schools need to make their money , but a lot of it doesn't even go to the classrooms. I taught at a college for 8 years as an instructor for lab tech students and we had to beg for cash to buy basic lab supplies, get our own outside grants, and use expired reagents & donated leftovers from the regional hospitals . I certainly didn't see any of the $2000-4000 course fee money in my adjunct paycheck , but it was enough to help pay for my daughter's own overpriced courses. Example : one of the annual courses I taught was a clinical practicum, off campus at regional hospitals. Each student paid about 2K for each rotation as we call them , so for 9 students, that's 18K the college earns for a class not even held on campus . My contract for that was about $1200 before taxes , so where's the rest of the $16,800 going ?
Yes, we need higher education but affordably so. I propose that instead of total debt forgiveness at the expense of the taxpayer, there should be a partial percentage forgiveness at the expense of the colleges that overcharged the students in the first place -- make a law that says they have to redo their fee system, to something realistically affordable , then make it retroactive for X- number of years, and start giving out refunds to students. I'll bet that will cancel a good chunk of their debt, and the rest they can pay themselves because they made a choice to make that purchase ..
I won't say much on the specifics of this issue. As I see it, student loans should be paid back just like any other debt. Future tuition "could" be paid through federal taxes., but that presents many inherent problems..In the past, the resistance against this federal payment has usually come from Universities. With government money, comes government requirements, something the controlling hierarchies in the scholastic system don't want. Currently, schools are able to make decisions right or wrong, with little consequence. Money that comes into the school is used however without government oversight or regulations. In fact, universities are able to autonomously act and manipulate at will. Government funding and with it government regulations have been the norm in more socialistic countries. I don't trust universities to do the "right" thing for students. I also don't trust Congress to do anything "right" for students or the country. Separation of government and church has shown to be the best for freedom of religion. Separation of federal government and education has allowed great and terrible schools to exist. I tend towards as much private industry separate from government intrusions and regulations as possible. That is the America experiment. It is the benefit of freedom and the price we pay for freedom. Elected education beyond the already tax payer provided 12 years is the adult student's decision. The cost is theirs. Entitlement philosophy is a weak dogma that makes for weak people. Being coddled and given everything is a sure fire way to create a failure of a person. That certainly applies to adult students that will have to pay for everything else in life after graduation regardless...
I didn’t go to uni. I can hear the surprise in everyone’s voice. 🤣
However Hubs did and is just about to get his student loan written off after 25 years purely because he didn’t meet the criteria of earnings to pay it back. So while I’m not entirely sure on the circumstances / facts surrounding student loans in the US (I can only speak for the U.K.) the fact that my Husband simply didn’t meet the financial criteria to pay it back comfortably kinda makes me feel ok about it. It’s not scrounging in my eyes.
It’s just paperwork.
However Hubs did and is just about to get his student loan written off after 25 years purely because he didn’t meet the criteria of earnings to pay it back. So while I’m not entirely sure on the circumstances / facts surrounding student loans in the US (I can only speak for the U.K.) the fact that my Husband simply didn’t meet the financial criteria to pay it back comfortably kinda makes me feel ok about it. It’s not scrounging in my eyes.
It’s just paperwork.
Northern_Soul said:I didn’t go to uni. I can hear the surprise in everyone’s voice. 🤣
However Hubs did and is just about to get his student loan written off after 25 years purely because he didn’t meet the criteria of earnings to pay it back. So while I’m not entirely sure on the circumstances / facts surrounding student loans in the US (I can only speak for the U.K.) the fact that my Husband simply didn’t meet the financial criteria to pay it back comfortably kinda makes me feel ok about it. It’s not scrounging in my eyes.
It’s just paperwork.
The federal student loans in America have many, many provisions to defer payments, for years if needed. Many are wrote off after a period of time, as well, like your husband's debt. Different from most other loans, federal student loans take a while to default on. I paid my loans but I also deferred a total of 5 years. I was given a list of reasons I could use toward forbearance. It seems far too many students rack up $100,000 in debt toward a degree they can't make money on or simply don't strive to make a living after college. In comparison, tech and trade school students train in classes that are designed to allow the graduate to make an excellent salary, rather than many university students that only learn to hate America, capitalism and be activists for pseudo moral doctrines...
However Hubs did and is just about to get his student loan written off after 25 years purely because he didn’t meet the criteria of earnings to pay it back. So while I’m not entirely sure on the circumstances / facts surrounding student loans in the US (I can only speak for the U.K.) the fact that my Husband simply didn’t meet the financial criteria to pay it back comfortably kinda makes me feel ok about it. It’s not scrounging in my eyes.
It’s just paperwork.
The federal student loans in America have many, many provisions to defer payments, for years if needed. Many are wrote off after a period of time, as well, like your husband's debt. Different from most other loans, federal student loans take a while to default on. I paid my loans but I also deferred a total of 5 years. I was given a list of reasons I could use toward forbearance. It seems far too many students rack up $100,000 in debt toward a degree they can't make money on or simply don't strive to make a living after college. In comparison, tech and trade school students train in classes that are designed to allow the graduate to make an excellent salary, rather than many university students that only learn to hate America, capitalism and be activists for pseudo moral doctrines...
MadameLavender said:
Personally , I just tune into a couple of networks that aren't propaganda machines , just long enough to get an update on the goings on. Then I step away from it so that all the ugly, doesn't consume me, because whatever does consume and become the forefront of my thoughts , is my "god" for that day. Choose to fill each day, with a better "god" , than the slop that seeks to destroy.
Try these for more truthful reporting :
https://rsbnetwork.com/
https://www.oann.com/
https://www.breakingchristiannews.com/index.php
Have not yet viewed the links. I wanted to comment real quick though on the "god" thingee. I've been calling God, Herm for sometime now, a few years. Then I find out there is in fact an ancient god named Herm.
I know this is not necessarily political, but seems Herm has been getting involved in politics for sometime already. However, this is not my objective here.
It seems to me if we were created in God's image, God should be both male and female. Therefore Herm is a much more appropriate name.
The patriarchy created god a male. The patriarchy wanted to control women, the matriarchy, and this was a way for them to do it.
Anyway, just thought I would throw that little tidbit out there and see where it goes. I guess it could be subject matter for a whole separate forum.
Personally , I just tune into a couple of networks that aren't propaganda machines , just long enough to get an update on the goings on. Then I step away from it so that all the ugly, doesn't consume me, because whatever does consume and become the forefront of my thoughts , is my "god" for that day. Choose to fill each day, with a better "god" , than the slop that seeks to destroy.
Try these for more truthful reporting :
https://rsbnetwork.com/
https://www.oann.com/
https://www.breakingchristiannews.com/index.php
Have not yet viewed the links. I wanted to comment real quick though on the "god" thingee. I've been calling God, Herm for sometime now, a few years. Then I find out there is in fact an ancient god named Herm.
I know this is not necessarily political, but seems Herm has been getting involved in politics for sometime already. However, this is not my objective here.
It seems to me if we were created in God's image, God should be both male and female. Therefore Herm is a much more appropriate name.
The patriarchy created god a male. The patriarchy wanted to control women, the matriarchy, and this was a way for them to do it.
Anyway, just thought I would throw that little tidbit out there and see where it goes. I guess it could be subject matter for a whole separate forum.
elsiesan said:
Have not yet viewed the links. I wanted to comment real quick though on the "god" thingee. I've been calling God, Herm for sometime now, a few years. Then I find out there is in fact an ancient god named Herm.
I know this is not necessarily political, but seems Herm has been getting involved in politics for sometime already. However, this is not my objective here.
It seems to me if we were created in God's image, God should be both male and female. Therefore Herm is a much more appropriate name.
The patriarchy created god a male. The patriarchy wanted to control women, the matriarchy, and this was a way for them to do it.
Anyway, just thought I would throw that little tidbit out there and see where it goes. I guess it could be subject matter for a whole separate forum.
It can be political and social -- if we look at our American money , it says "in God we trust " on it and our pledge of allegiance has the line "one nation under God" , so God and politics do mix.
If one believes in God, they surely believe that God keeps everything in order, even when things seem in disarray , including political doings . Why would he create a world and human, to not help us govern it?
Here we get into the separation of church & state thing, which gets misinterpreted -- it actually means that the government can't create a church or religion and require that the people become a member, not that people who go to church, can't be a part of governing.
As for male/female-- If we go strictly by the Bible, the one true God made man (human) in his image -- a copy of himself as flesh , so if Adam the first human was male, then it stands that God is male. Eve was created from Adam, not another copy of God .
For male domination-- well, here's where free will comes into play-- just because man was made in the image of God, doesn't mean he wasn't able to think for himself and make his own choices. Choosing to steer one sex as being dominant over the other, involved a lot more than God saying "you're the boss", and is a more lengthy topic for another post .
Have not yet viewed the links. I wanted to comment real quick though on the "god" thingee. I've been calling God, Herm for sometime now, a few years. Then I find out there is in fact an ancient god named Herm.
I know this is not necessarily political, but seems Herm has been getting involved in politics for sometime already. However, this is not my objective here.
It seems to me if we were created in God's image, God should be both male and female. Therefore Herm is a much more appropriate name.
The patriarchy created god a male. The patriarchy wanted to control women, the matriarchy, and this was a way for them to do it.
Anyway, just thought I would throw that little tidbit out there and see where it goes. I guess it could be subject matter for a whole separate forum.
It can be political and social -- if we look at our American money , it says "in God we trust " on it and our pledge of allegiance has the line "one nation under God" , so God and politics do mix.
If one believes in God, they surely believe that God keeps everything in order, even when things seem in disarray , including political doings . Why would he create a world and human, to not help us govern it?
Here we get into the separation of church & state thing, which gets misinterpreted -- it actually means that the government can't create a church or religion and require that the people become a member, not that people who go to church, can't be a part of governing.
As for male/female-- If we go strictly by the Bible, the one true God made man (human) in his image -- a copy of himself as flesh , so if Adam the first human was male, then it stands that God is male. Eve was created from Adam, not another copy of God .
For male domination-- well, here's where free will comes into play-- just because man was made in the image of God, doesn't mean he wasn't able to think for himself and make his own choices. Choosing to steer one sex as being dominant over the other, involved a lot more than God saying "you're the boss", and is a more lengthy topic for another post .
My definition of “God” has always been genderless. The constraints of gender definition is a wholly human invention.
I’d go into patriarchy / matriarchy too because there’s a lot I could say. But yeah... another time and place. 😊
I’d go into patriarchy / matriarchy too because there’s a lot I could say. But yeah... another time and place. 😊
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