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Noble_Incubus
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lepperochan said:I think any -ism on its own creates problems. If you look at some of the most successful societies: Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, NewZealand etc there is a fine mix of the isms which works well
if you take a country which is staunch capitalist like the USA, sure there is a lot of success and wealth but there is also the [what I would call ‘what comes out of the exhaust from the capitalist truck’] abject poverty which is a disgrace in terms of humanity
I think you are right in that balance is the key. Capitalism with a modest dose of socialism works well, but either in isolation would fail. Conservatism needs to be balanced with liberalism. Rights need to be tempered with responsibility and accountability.
if you take a country which is staunch capitalist like the USA, sure there is a lot of success and wealth but there is also the [what I would call ‘what comes out of the exhaust from the capitalist truck’] abject poverty which is a disgrace in terms of humanity
I think you are right in that balance is the key. Capitalism with a modest dose of socialism works well, but either in isolation would fail. Conservatism needs to be balanced with liberalism. Rights need to be tempered with responsibility and accountability.
EdibleWords
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Noble_Incubus said:
He had broad support
In what way? I didn’t see that at all.
(Speaking as someone who didn’t personally support him, I still saw the opposite.)
I supported the positions he took on ending endless wars and a few other issues, but didn’t even vote for him. He was constantly lied to and undermined.
He can’t pick a team. I think he really tried. Maybe he learned something along the way, I hope.
He should support another good populist candidate for president next time. Someone with legal or medical expertise who loves liberty as much or more, who can really pick close associates better. Someone who can really spot liars.
He had broad support
In what way? I didn’t see that at all.
(Speaking as someone who didn’t personally support him, I still saw the opposite.)
I supported the positions he took on ending endless wars and a few other issues, but didn’t even vote for him. He was constantly lied to and undermined.
He can’t pick a team. I think he really tried. Maybe he learned something along the way, I hope.
He should support another good populist candidate for president next time. Someone with legal or medical expertise who loves liberty as much or more, who can really pick close associates better. Someone who can really spot liars.
runaway-mindtrain
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Noble_Incubus said:
In the case of Trump we should call it what it actually was: incompetence.
He had broad support, he just didn’t know how to make it happen.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.governing.com/archive/gov-trump-infrastructure-plan.html%3fAMP
As for the voting on bills idea. It is interesting, I suppose with electronic voting you could feasibly make it work. I’m not sure what the consequences would be. People are already apathetic about voting and really understanding the issues.
"Incompetence" ...Do you slave party democrats do anything other than talk lying shit and insult people???. Four peace agreement in the last 12 months, lowest unemployment rate in history...highest employment rate in history. Border under control. Mexican President currently begging Jim Crow Biden to return to the Trump immigration policies...
"Incompetence" is your piece of shit democrat party having over 12,000 children in boxes on the border...How about your lynching racist slave party take care of people on the southern border before you continue to talk crap about president Trump... Oh that's right I forget ...All y'all do is talk smack and make up crap and currently allow children to be abused by a failed immigration flim flam and, on top of everything, block the press to cover your crimes like little bitches. The world is watching. World leaders see Biden as a weak puppet. But hey, all democrats are on the plantation anyway...
In the case of Trump we should call it what it actually was: incompetence.
He had broad support, he just didn’t know how to make it happen.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.governing.com/archive/gov-trump-infrastructure-plan.html%3fAMP
As for the voting on bills idea. It is interesting, I suppose with electronic voting you could feasibly make it work. I’m not sure what the consequences would be. People are already apathetic about voting and really understanding the issues.
"Incompetence" ...Do you slave party democrats do anything other than talk lying shit and insult people???. Four peace agreement in the last 12 months, lowest unemployment rate in history...highest employment rate in history. Border under control. Mexican President currently begging Jim Crow Biden to return to the Trump immigration policies...
"Incompetence" is your piece of shit democrat party having over 12,000 children in boxes on the border...How about your lynching racist slave party take care of people on the southern border before you continue to talk crap about president Trump... Oh that's right I forget ...All y'all do is talk smack and make up crap and currently allow children to be abused by a failed immigration flim flam and, on top of everything, block the press to cover your crimes like little bitches. The world is watching. World leaders see Biden as a weak puppet. But hey, all democrats are on the plantation anyway...
EdibleWords
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Runaway said:
"Incompetence" ...Do you slave party democrats do anything other than talk lying shit and insult people???. Four peace agreement in the last 12 months, lowest unemployment rate in history...highest employment rate in history. Border under control. Mexican President currently begging Jim Crow Biden to return to the Trump immigration policies...
"Incompetence" is your piece of shit democrat party having over 12,000 children in boxes on the border...How about your lynching racist slave party take care of people on the southern border before you continue to talk crap about president Trump... Oh that's right I forget ...All y'all do is talk smack and make up crap and currently allow children to be abused by a failed immigration flim flam and, on top of everything, block the press to cover your crimes like little bitches. The world is watching. World leaders see Biden as a weak puppet. But hey, all democrats are on the plantation anyway...
Child immigrants are being underfed in at least one of these facilities in Texas, and now Newsweek reports that the elites have reason to covet their very blood for longevity treatments. As a parent I find the matter chilling. I can’t imagine being a foreigner realizing what hell my children just stepped into.
Here’s an interesting show by Michael Knowles along these lines.
Brace for the mention of Alex Jones!
https://youtu.be/Un2-1eUvBGU
runaway-mindtrain
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https://www.lawofficer.com/doj-quietly-acknowledges-there-was-no-sedition-at-the-us-capitol/
Yet another lie pushed by the slave party media to spread false propaganda about Trump supporters...Add this bullshit to the four years of discredited stories about Trump...
I will say it again ...Fuck the lying, racist, lynchng, Jim Crow, separate but equal, anti miscegenation, voter fraud democrat party...
Yet another lie pushed by the slave party media to spread false propaganda about Trump supporters...Add this bullshit to the four years of discredited stories about Trump...
I will say it again ...Fuck the lying, racist, lynchng, Jim Crow, separate but equal, anti miscegenation, voter fraud democrat party...
Northern_Soul
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If I may interject...
bit of a sad day for the U.K. today. I mean I’m not a huge royalist by any means, but Prince Phillip... well... he was a bit of a character.
Astounded they’d been married for 73 years. I mean that’s an achievement in itself.
MadameLavender
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Northern_Soul said:If I may interject...
bit of a sad day for the U.K. today. I mean I’m not a huge royalist by any means, but Prince Phillip... well... he was a bit of a character.
Astounded they’d been married for 73 years. I mean that’s an achievement in itself.
I think it will be interesting to see if any of the dynamics of the royal family , change at all or if it will remain status quo, life as usual.
Gotta give him props though for the long life !
bit of a sad day for the U.K. today. I mean I’m not a huge royalist by any means, but Prince Phillip... well... he was a bit of a character.
Astounded they’d been married for 73 years. I mean that’s an achievement in itself.
I think it will be interesting to see if any of the dynamics of the royal family , change at all or if it will remain status quo, life as usual.
Gotta give him props though for the long life !
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MadameLavender said:
I think it will be interesting to see if any of the dynamics of the royal family , change at all or if it will remain status quo, life as usual.
Gotta give him props though for the long life !
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
I think it will be interesting to see if any of the dynamics of the royal family , change at all or if it will remain status quo, life as usual.
Gotta give him props though for the long life !
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
runaway-mindtrain
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Northern_Soul said:
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
He just might return. He said years ago that he wanted to be reincarnated as a virus to reduce the world's population.
https://www.businessinsider.in/entertainment/news/prince-philip-quote-about-reincarnating-as-a-deadly-virus-to-solve-overpopulation-resurfaces/articleshow/81992882.cms
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
He just might return. He said years ago that he wanted to be reincarnated as a virus to reduce the world's population.
https://www.businessinsider.in/entertainment/news/prince-philip-quote-about-reincarnating-as-a-deadly-virus-to-solve-overpopulation-resurfaces/articleshow/81992882.cms
lepperochan
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..sorry in advance
What troubles me about that family is well the pedio Prince, Diana, colonies. they told the people God said they were better than everyone else and so will rule them.they literally take your money so they can live like kings
they own the geese, the fish, Deer, the land, their subjects etc
that said, totally understand many people are attached to them even in a small way because culture or some suchities. I would say (COVID rules not withstanding) there will be at least hundreds of thousands out to pay respects not to mention overseas
above rant is a towards monarchy not their subjects.
I wondered if the picture might be too much for some people. if it were published on the cover of the next Charlie Hebdo edition would there be riots outside the French embassy type thing
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Hmmm. Devastated....solely cos they shelved Coronation Street on TV for another eulogy to the Prince of er...Greece...Norway?! His sister was fully paid up member of Nazi Party in 1930s. Proof if needed that interbreeding can thrive.
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Fucking hell, Lepp. 😂 Thankfully the English live for the bants.
I do get what you’re coming from. The monarchy is a contentious issue here. Many of us don’t like what they are, or are indeed becoming (I mean Prince Andrew... Pizza Express in fkn Woking my arse) but at the same time... they are such a huge part of this countries identity. So it becomes hard sometimes. I mean I don’t really agree with them... but I do feel for The Queen on a human level. I mean if you lose a Husband of 70+ years...you’re gonna fkn feel it.
@Rob heaven forbid they cancel The Street... 😂 Thing is they had the same reel on repeat from about 13:00 on every single channel... not really needed on literally every channel.
I do get what you’re coming from. The monarchy is a contentious issue here. Many of us don’t like what they are, or are indeed becoming (I mean Prince Andrew... Pizza Express in fkn Woking my arse) but at the same time... they are such a huge part of this countries identity. So it becomes hard sometimes. I mean I don’t really agree with them... but I do feel for The Queen on a human level. I mean if you lose a Husband of 70+ years...you’re gonna fkn feel it.
@Rob heaven forbid they cancel The Street... 😂 Thing is they had the same reel on repeat from about 13:00 on every single channel... not really needed on literally every channel.
MadameLavender
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Northern_Soul said:
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
Well , technically if you count gestational time in utero as part of "age " , then he was already a few months past 100. Being alive doesn't happen at birth and if one believes that life begins at conception , then we're already 9 months old, at birth . 😲
Oh absoloutly, he had a damn good innings.
Two months before your hundredth birthday though... goodness. With my OCD I’d come back and haunt everyone with that uneven number.
Well , technically if you count gestational time in utero as part of "age " , then he was already a few months past 100. Being alive doesn't happen at birth and if one believes that life begins at conception , then we're already 9 months old, at birth . 😲
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lepperochan
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Northern_Soul said:Fucking hell, Lepp. 😂 Thankfully the English live for the bants.
I do get what you’re coming from. The monarchy is a contentious issue here. Many of us don’t like what they are, or are indeed becoming (I mean Prince Andrew... Pizza Express in fkn Woking my arse) but at the same time... they are such a huge part of this countries identity. So it becomes hard sometimes. I mean I don’t really agree with them... but I do feel for The Queen on a human level. I mean if you lose a Husband of 70+ years...you’re gonna fkn feel it.
@Rob heaven forbid they cancel The Street... 😂 Thing is they had the same reel on repeat from about 13:00 on every single channel... not really needed on literally every channel.
Queen is a remarkable woman, no doubt about that. a mechanic at 15 or something. have empathy for her loss. like you say it must be a great loss to her.
to be fair and a bit balanced: there are times when I have admired her for her actions.
I do get what you’re coming from. The monarchy is a contentious issue here. Many of us don’t like what they are, or are indeed becoming (I mean Prince Andrew... Pizza Express in fkn Woking my arse) but at the same time... they are such a huge part of this countries identity. So it becomes hard sometimes. I mean I don’t really agree with them... but I do feel for The Queen on a human level. I mean if you lose a Husband of 70+ years...you’re gonna fkn feel it.
@Rob heaven forbid they cancel The Street... 😂 Thing is they had the same reel on repeat from about 13:00 on every single channel... not really needed on literally every channel.
Queen is a remarkable woman, no doubt about that. a mechanic at 15 or something. have empathy for her loss. like you say it must be a great loss to her.
to be fair and a bit balanced: there are times when I have admired her for her actions.