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EdibleWords said:
Can you provide any evidence he did anything remotely as bad?
With Trump you can see a pattern of behaviour, and whilst you could argue some allegations or individual incidents are exaggerated, taken in totality it presents a picture that I believe warrants a thorough investigation. Just a sample:
* Cheated on his wife to sleep with a porn star and then bribed her to keep quiet.
* Admitted to sexual assault in a secret recording.
* Took an unhealthy interest in beauty pageants.
* Known close associate of both Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton.
* Made derogatory comments about women in public.
* There are dozens of accusations from many women, some of which are going through the courts now.
His conduct is misogynistic and dishonorable.
With Cuomo it is a similar scenario, there are allegations which are credible and they need to be investigated.
What I don’t understand about the right is why they keep making excuses for Trump (and others) when ultimately it is immoral and will undermine the party in the long run. You keep making BS arguments like where is the proof? But accept anything Trump says with no proof at all.
The Republican Party is dying and it is taking the conservative movement down with it. It is not healthy for the US for the Democrats to run everything unopposed and unchallenged, but that is where you Americans are headed. The solution here is to weed out the corruption from the Republican Party, not to accuse lefties of being behind everything that is wrong in the world.
The fairytale is over. The hope was that Trump was a hero but he turned out to be a villain. That’s the truth. Open your eyes.
Can you provide any evidence he did anything remotely as bad?
With Trump you can see a pattern of behaviour, and whilst you could argue some allegations or individual incidents are exaggerated, taken in totality it presents a picture that I believe warrants a thorough investigation. Just a sample:
* Cheated on his wife to sleep with a porn star and then bribed her to keep quiet.
* Admitted to sexual assault in a secret recording.
* Took an unhealthy interest in beauty pageants.
* Known close associate of both Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton.
* Made derogatory comments about women in public.
* There are dozens of accusations from many women, some of which are going through the courts now.
His conduct is misogynistic and dishonorable.
With Cuomo it is a similar scenario, there are allegations which are credible and they need to be investigated.
What I don’t understand about the right is why they keep making excuses for Trump (and others) when ultimately it is immoral and will undermine the party in the long run. You keep making BS arguments like where is the proof? But accept anything Trump says with no proof at all.
The Republican Party is dying and it is taking the conservative movement down with it. It is not healthy for the US for the Democrats to run everything unopposed and unchallenged, but that is where you Americans are headed. The solution here is to weed out the corruption from the Republican Party, not to accuse lefties of being behind everything that is wrong in the world.
The fairytale is over. The hope was that Trump was a hero but he turned out to be a villain. That’s the truth. Open your eyes.
EdibleWords said:
That’s absolutely untrue in just the first 40 seconds. I stopped there. No need to go further. Sorry. CNN keeps getting sued and losing or settling because of talking heads like her. Someone needs to get her to retract those damaging and false claims.
If trump can be accused of inciting violence, this chick outdid him in one breath, by miles.
What specifically do you object to? Where did she incite violence? There is some exaggeration on her part, sure. The underlying theme is hard to refute. The Republican Party have lost their way and will die out unless they change their ways.
That’s absolutely untrue in just the first 40 seconds. I stopped there. No need to go further. Sorry. CNN keeps getting sued and losing or settling because of talking heads like her. Someone needs to get her to retract those damaging and false claims.
If trump can be accused of inciting violence, this chick outdid him in one breath, by miles.
What specifically do you object to? Where did she incite violence? There is some exaggeration on her part, sure. The underlying theme is hard to refute. The Republican Party have lost their way and will die out unless they change their ways.
Ah memories, Trump at his best, he really knows how to work a crowd. It’s a shame he was a disaster as a President.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Yf4UgkXvk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Yf4UgkXvk
Noble_Incubus said:
What specifically do you object to? Where did she incite violence? There is some exaggeration on her part, sure. The underlying theme is hard to refute. The Republican Party have lost their way and will die out unless they change their ways.
No the theme is easy to refute, aside from the sheer volume of mythology pushed. It’s been a busy day, and that’s the main thing holding me back at the moment.
However the Republicans did lose their way. It’s not been a party I agree with for my whole adult life.
But now the left has scandalized serious human rights movements. It’s sickening. And as much as I’m not a Republican I find the gross misrepresentation of their party reprehensible.
What specifically do you object to? Where did she incite violence? There is some exaggeration on her part, sure. The underlying theme is hard to refute. The Republican Party have lost their way and will die out unless they change their ways.
No the theme is easy to refute, aside from the sheer volume of mythology pushed. It’s been a busy day, and that’s the main thing holding me back at the moment.
However the Republicans did lose their way. It’s not been a party I agree with for my whole adult life.
But now the left has scandalized serious human rights movements. It’s sickening. And as much as I’m not a Republican I find the gross misrepresentation of their party reprehensible.
Noble_Incubus said:
With Trump you can see a pattern of behaviour, and whilst you could argue some allegations or individual incidents are exaggerated, taken in totality it presents a picture that I believe warrants a thorough investigation. Just a sample:
* Cheated on his wife to sleep with a porn star and then bribed her to keep quiet.
I think what is scandalous is the publicizing of a private family matter. A large number of marriages are plagued with it. An estimated 40% of marriages suffer from adultery. The reasons are myriad.
* Admitted to sexual assault in a secret recording
False. Bragged about going to third base straight from first base. Which is how some people roll. No admission of initiating unwanted contact.
* Took an unhealthy interest in beauty pageants.
The majority of men love porn. So I don’t care.
* Known close associate of both Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton.
Untrue. He’s been to events they went to and was sought by them but didn’t like Epstein and went out of his way to deride his disturbing love of teenagers.
* Made derogatory comments about women in public
Ha! Some women are pigs. Some men are. Let’s just be honest. I’m getting sick of fake chivalry.
* There are dozens of accusations from many women, some of which are going through the courts now.
Let them go through and the man is innocent until proven guilty.
His conduct is misogynistic and dishonorable.
Says the left hand mainstream media.
With Cuomo it is a similar scenario, there are allegations which are credible and they need to be investigated.
Not even. But please, aside from amusing ourselves at his expense we should focus on his disabled-home/gran-murdering habit. I’m way more interested in that!
What I don’t understand about the right is why they keep making excuses for Trump (and others) when ultimately it is immoral and will undermine the party in the long run. You keep making BS arguments like where is the proof? But accept anything Trump says with no proof at all.
Honestly, they’re both innocent until proven guilty, period. Period. Investigate. Deal with deadly corruption.
The Republican Party is dying and it is taking the conservative movement down with it. It is not healthy for the US for the Democrats to run everything unopposed and unchallenged, but that is where you Americans are headed.
Comments like these prove your chosen media is out of touch with American reality.
The solution here is to weed out the corruption from the Republican Party, not to accuse lefties of being behind everything that is wrong in the world.
We are totally scrutinizing Republicans. They don’t run the populist movement, and they are uncomfortably aware of being a mere vehicle for the populist agenda of today.
The fairytale is over. The hope was that Trump was a hero but he turned out to be a villain. That’s the truth. Open your eyes.
Trump is a sheep. He didn’t please his base as much as you think, although I’m not his base. I can just see that he serves the populist agenda enough to have power from it.
With Trump you can see a pattern of behaviour, and whilst you could argue some allegations or individual incidents are exaggerated, taken in totality it presents a picture that I believe warrants a thorough investigation. Just a sample:
* Cheated on his wife to sleep with a porn star and then bribed her to keep quiet.
I think what is scandalous is the publicizing of a private family matter. A large number of marriages are plagued with it. An estimated 40% of marriages suffer from adultery. The reasons are myriad.
* Admitted to sexual assault in a secret recording
False. Bragged about going to third base straight from first base. Which is how some people roll. No admission of initiating unwanted contact.
* Took an unhealthy interest in beauty pageants.
The majority of men love porn. So I don’t care.
* Known close associate of both Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton.
Untrue. He’s been to events they went to and was sought by them but didn’t like Epstein and went out of his way to deride his disturbing love of teenagers.
* Made derogatory comments about women in public
Ha! Some women are pigs. Some men are. Let’s just be honest. I’m getting sick of fake chivalry.
* There are dozens of accusations from many women, some of which are going through the courts now.
Let them go through and the man is innocent until proven guilty.
His conduct is misogynistic and dishonorable.
Says the left hand mainstream media.
With Cuomo it is a similar scenario, there are allegations which are credible and they need to be investigated.
Not even. But please, aside from amusing ourselves at his expense we should focus on his disabled-home/gran-murdering habit. I’m way more interested in that!
What I don’t understand about the right is why they keep making excuses for Trump (and others) when ultimately it is immoral and will undermine the party in the long run. You keep making BS arguments like where is the proof? But accept anything Trump says with no proof at all.
Honestly, they’re both innocent until proven guilty, period. Period. Investigate. Deal with deadly corruption.
The Republican Party is dying and it is taking the conservative movement down with it. It is not healthy for the US for the Democrats to run everything unopposed and unchallenged, but that is where you Americans are headed.
Comments like these prove your chosen media is out of touch with American reality.
The solution here is to weed out the corruption from the Republican Party, not to accuse lefties of being behind everything that is wrong in the world.
We are totally scrutinizing Republicans. They don’t run the populist movement, and they are uncomfortably aware of being a mere vehicle for the populist agenda of today.
The fairytale is over. The hope was that Trump was a hero but he turned out to be a villain. That’s the truth. Open your eyes.
Trump is a sheep. He didn’t please his base as much as you think, although I’m not his base. I can just see that he serves the populist agenda enough to have power from it.
cold_fusion said:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/us/politics/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-investigation.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Very not true. (I don’t blame you for not knowing that, but it is a great illustration of why we need to listen to both sides of the political spectrum!)
I can sense the impending lawsuit...
https://youtu.be/OMMVFO3ZJWA
So actually the NYT was probably trying to protect an agent of the DOJ by spoiling an investigation into serious extortion. There was never any girl. She doesn’t even exist. Period.
Gaetz released a statement saying he and his family have "been victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name." During an appearance on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Gaetz denied the allegations and named the DOJ official as David McGee, adding "there was a demand for money in exchange for a commitment that he could make this investigation go away."
Says Gaetz I demand the DOJ immediately release the tapes, made at their direction, which implicate their former colleague in crimes against me based on false allegations.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1377061143026364417
Very not true. (I don’t blame you for not knowing that, but it is a great illustration of why we need to listen to both sides of the political spectrum!)
I can sense the impending lawsuit...
https://youtu.be/OMMVFO3ZJWA
So actually the NYT was probably trying to protect an agent of the DOJ by spoiling an investigation into serious extortion. There was never any girl. She doesn’t even exist. Period.
Gaetz released a statement saying he and his family have "been victims of an organized criminal extortion involving a former DOJ official seeking $25 million while threatening to smear my name." During an appearance on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Gaetz denied the allegations and named the DOJ official as David McGee, adding "there was a demand for money in exchange for a commitment that he could make this investigation go away."
Says Gaetz I demand the DOJ immediately release the tapes, made at their direction, which implicate their former colleague in crimes against me based on false allegations.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1377061143026364417
I believe Matt Gaetz on this one.
This is what the Australian right wing media said about the situation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_BvPMG0-k
I think Tucker Carlson feels weird because he has forgotten what the truth looks like. 😂
This is what the Australian right wing media said about the situation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_BvPMG0-k
I think Tucker Carlson feels weird because he has forgotten what the truth looks like. 😂
Noble_Incubus said:I believe Matt Gaetz on this one.
This is what the Australian right wing media said about the situation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_BvPMG0-k
I think Tucker Carlson feels weird because he has forgotten what the truth looks like. 😂
Hmmm... I’m not sure what to think now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiyLx_joO4#searching
I tend to trust Glenn Kirschner on matters of law.
This is what the Australian right wing media said about the situation.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_BvPMG0-k
I think Tucker Carlson feels weird because he has forgotten what the truth looks like. 😂
Hmmm... I’m not sure what to think now.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiyLx_joO4#searching
I tend to trust Glenn Kirschner on matters of law.
EdibleWords said:
Very not true. (I don’t blame you for not knowing that, but it is a great illustration of why we need to listen to both sides of the political spectrum!)
I can sense the impending lawsuit...
https://youtu.be/OMMVFO3ZJWA
So actually the NYT was probably trying to protect an agent of the DOJ by spoiling an investigation into serious extortion. There was never any girl. She doesn’t even exist. Period.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1377061143026364417
LMFAO ...
look at the reaction... all I did was post links to an article from a proper 'accountable' main stream media outlet which has no par when it comes to quality of journalism. It only mentions what's happening i.e a mere investigation has been launched, and no! not under President Biden but under your ex-president's administration and his staunchest ally William P. Barr
and please.. i request you to not pass judgements either way..let the Justice Department and Courts do their job. At the moment as it stands it is just an investigation with an outcome yet to be reached...so presumption of innocence until found guilty is everybody's right Yes. But pronouncing judgements...lol unfortunately is not your job...holding your view is...so the 'existence' of the girl or not is not for you to decide
enjoy your weekend.
World is getting weirder by the day... I mean an investigation into a sitting Republican member of Congress, launched by none other than by the then Republican administration is being called all sorts of things...
Very not true. (I don’t blame you for not knowing that, but it is a great illustration of why we need to listen to both sides of the political spectrum!)
I can sense the impending lawsuit...
https://youtu.be/OMMVFO3ZJWA
So actually the NYT was probably trying to protect an agent of the DOJ by spoiling an investigation into serious extortion. There was never any girl. She doesn’t even exist. Period.
https://twitter.com/i/events/1377061143026364417
LMFAO ...
look at the reaction... all I did was post links to an article from a proper 'accountable' main stream media outlet which has no par when it comes to quality of journalism. It only mentions what's happening i.e a mere investigation has been launched, and no! not under President Biden but under your ex-president's administration and his staunchest ally William P. Barr
and please.. i request you to not pass judgements either way..let the Justice Department and Courts do their job. At the moment as it stands it is just an investigation with an outcome yet to be reached...so presumption of innocence until found guilty is everybody's right Yes. But pronouncing judgements...lol unfortunately is not your job...holding your view is...so the 'existence' of the girl or not is not for you to decide
enjoy your weekend.
World is getting weirder by the day... I mean an investigation into a sitting Republican member of Congress, launched by none other than by the then Republican administration is being called all sorts of things...
cold_fusion said:
LMFAO ...
look at the reaction... all I did was post links to an article from a proper 'accountable' main stream media outlet which has no par when it comes to quality of journalism. It only mentions what's happening i.e a mere investigation has been launched, and no! not under President Biden but under your ex-president's administration and his staunchest ally William P. Barr
He was far from his staunchest ally. Quite the opposite. But you are a low information news consumer, so I understand.
and please.. i request you to not pass judgements either way..
In the court of my personal opinion he is innocent until proven guilty and his words so far justify him well. Proverbs 28:1 “ The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.”
He’s asking for the evidence to be released proving his innocence after criminals tried to ruin his family.
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
I hate what God hates.
I am a judge of the Lord. My personal court of opinion matters.
let the Justice Department and Courts do their job.
I’m no more an impediment to their job than you.
LMFAO ...
look at the reaction... all I did was post links to an article from a proper 'accountable' main stream media outlet which has no par when it comes to quality of journalism. It only mentions what's happening i.e a mere investigation has been launched, and no! not under President Biden but under your ex-president's administration and his staunchest ally William P. Barr
He was far from his staunchest ally. Quite the opposite. But you are a low information news consumer, so I understand.
and please.. i request you to not pass judgements either way..
In the court of my personal opinion he is innocent until proven guilty and his words so far justify him well. Proverbs 28:1 “ The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.”
He’s asking for the evidence to be released proving his innocence after criminals tried to ruin his family.
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.
I hate what God hates.
I am a judge of the Lord. My personal court of opinion matters.
let the Justice Department and Courts do their job.
I’m no more an impediment to their job than you.
EdibleWords said:
I am a judge of the Lord. My personal court of opinion matters.
It is surprisingly irrelevant to others what matters in your personal court of opinion.
The dude even tried to rope in Tucker Carlson into this much to the anguish of poor Tucks lol..
At least my news sources are mainstream, tried, tested and accountable ones with impeccable records. Not some shock jock talk show hosts or blatant conspiracy theorists posing as journalists and who peddle their opinion as news.
And sorry to break it you...both the FBI and the Justice Department are doing their job, by Law they're the ones to investigate and bring out the truth. Not your personal opinion.😉
I am a judge of the Lord. My personal court of opinion matters.
It is surprisingly irrelevant to others what matters in your personal court of opinion.
The dude even tried to rope in Tucker Carlson into this much to the anguish of poor Tucks lol..
At least my news sources are mainstream, tried, tested and accountable ones with impeccable records. Not some shock jock talk show hosts or blatant conspiracy theorists posing as journalists and who peddle their opinion as news.
And sorry to break it you...both the FBI and the Justice Department are doing their job, by Law they're the ones to investigate and bring out the truth. Not your personal opinion.😉
