The Politics Place
lepperochan said:
send me the link, I'll check to see if a moderator de-prioritized it. if it was a moderator I'll leave it as is. if it's some kind of glitch I'll free it up
THANK YOU! I appreciate it!
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/speakeasy/read/12585/
Edit: Oh, and if someone *cough* complains or reports a post, perhaps you could convey this to them:
lepperochan said:
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
send me the link, I'll check to see if a moderator de-prioritized it. if it was a moderator I'll leave it as is. if it's some kind of glitch I'll free it up
THANK YOU! I appreciate it!
https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/speakeasy/read/12585/
Edit: Oh, and if someone *cough* complains or reports a post, perhaps you could convey this to them:
lepperochan said:
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
lepperochan said:I'm sorry, it was no glitch
I would suggest you post your grievance through the most questions
prap's after that you might apologise for the accusation.
Wow. There must be an invisible moderator! And there's definitely bias on this site.
lepperochan said:
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
I would suggest you post your grievance through the most questions
prap's after that you might apologise for the accusation.
Wow. There must be an invisible moderator! And there's definitely bias on this site.
lepperochan said:
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
lepperochan said:
I tried to help you. you're wrong.
Thank you. That doesn't change the fact that there is bias on the site regarding the more liberal views. It merely confirms that the moment carpe or runaway enters one of my threads, someone reports their posts ( on my threads but not this one ) and my threads get deprioritized. It's happened TWICE now. Does that not disturb you, Craic?
I tried to help you. you're wrong.
Thank you. That doesn't change the fact that there is bias on the site regarding the more liberal views. It merely confirms that the moment carpe or runaway enters one of my threads, someone reports their posts ( on my threads but not this one ) and my threads get deprioritized. It's happened TWICE now. Does that not disturb you, Craic?
Ahavati said:I just reported several posts in this thread as abusive that violate site guidelines in calling people "fucking idiots" and "intellectually retarded" from the two posters in question: Carpe and runaway. Let's see what happens.
I have reviewed your reports. I don't believe I would be justified to intervene.
I have reviewed your reports. I don't believe I would be justified to intervene.
lepperochan said:
I have reviewed your reports. I don't believe I would be justified to intervene.
I thought as much.
Abracadabra said:For two cents I have no idea why you two are debating this in public when you are both old and wise enough to settle matters via pm. It only looks ugly when the illustrious among us rattle sabres.
Injustice is MUCH uglier when you choose to look at it rather than those who are rattling their sabres against it.
I have reviewed your reports. I don't believe I would be justified to intervene.
I thought as much.
Abracadabra said:For two cents I have no idea why you two are debating this in public when you are both old and wise enough to settle matters via pm. It only looks ugly when the illustrious among us rattle sabres.
Injustice is MUCH uglier when you choose to look at it rather than those who are rattling their sabres against it.
lepperochan said:
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
Show me, please, the ultimatums or a singular ultimatum that you mention Lep.
This thread belongs to all, I speak on behalf of myself here, and for your kind information Sire, I have been abused personally by Runaway_Mindtrain and have reported the same and no less our respected Mod MadameLavender removed that post.
lepperochan said:
I know that on this particular thread there were no posts reported for abuse. that's because for the most part they insult each other
so if third party takes offence is not really a moderator problem. It is the third parties
I would like to also ask you a question, based on your reply to Ahavati, it sounded very much a cop out, a literal cop like reply to be honest -
point one- as I have mentioned before, perhaps you were not aware of the abusive conduct reported prior and action taken by the other Mod. I had only replied to one of Mr.Mindtrain's emotionally charged tirade that I would reply to him when he would speak like a human, his reply was 'fuck you' after a long rant against me personally. So to claim no abuse occured or reported is plainly wrong.
Point two- Here I am merely elaborating what I meant by cop-out, I will give you an example based on my own experience, I witnessed a mugging on my street, the victim ran away sobbing and the thugs ran in the other direction. I hailed a patrolling police car shortly afterwards and explained them what I witnessed, their reply - no we won't take any action unless the victim reports to us.
Your reply Sir is no different, and I expected, one of the roles of the mods is to ensure users are adhering to the terms and conditions of the website - Particularly section 4(User's Conduct ) paragraph 8 and in particular this section of that paragraph
"You may not post obscene, degrading, harassing or humiliating User Content on the Site. You may not post or transmit any false, defamatory, abusive, threatening or illegal User Content or User Content that infringes on the rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website. "
Point 3 is what I get from your reply is that anyone can abuse anyone publicly without any consequences, unless it is reported by the affected person all is ok . And the clause about the user's conduct and rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website are affected is no issue.
Probably not wise to be throwing ultimatums around. you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
Show me, please, the ultimatums or a singular ultimatum that you mention Lep.
This thread belongs to all, I speak on behalf of myself here, and for your kind information Sire, I have been abused personally by Runaway_Mindtrain and have reported the same and no less our respected Mod MadameLavender removed that post.
lepperochan said:
I know that on this particular thread there were no posts reported for abuse. that's because for the most part they insult each other
so if third party takes offence is not really a moderator problem. It is the third parties
I would like to also ask you a question, based on your reply to Ahavati, it sounded very much a cop out, a literal cop like reply to be honest -
point one- as I have mentioned before, perhaps you were not aware of the abusive conduct reported prior and action taken by the other Mod. I had only replied to one of Mr.Mindtrain's emotionally charged tirade that I would reply to him when he would speak like a human, his reply was 'fuck you' after a long rant against me personally. So to claim no abuse occured or reported is plainly wrong.
Point two- Here I am merely elaborating what I meant by cop-out, I will give you an example based on my own experience, I witnessed a mugging on my street, the victim ran away sobbing and the thugs ran in the other direction. I hailed a patrolling police car shortly afterwards and explained them what I witnessed, their reply - no we won't take any action unless the victim reports to us.
Your reply Sir is no different, and I expected, one of the roles of the mods is to ensure users are adhering to the terms and conditions of the website - Particularly section 4(User's Conduct ) paragraph 8 and in particular this section of that paragraph
"You may not post obscene, degrading, harassing or humiliating User Content on the Site. You may not post or transmit any false, defamatory, abusive, threatening or illegal User Content or User Content that infringes on the rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website. "
Point 3 is what I get from your reply is that anyone can abuse anyone publicly without any consequences, unless it is reported by the affected person all is ok . And the clause about the user's conduct and rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website are affected is no issue.
From my simple Buddhist perspective there seems to be a lot of anger and hatred here...so sad really...everything is transient in this momentary world.
“For things to reveal themselves to us, we need to be ready to abandon our views about them.” – Thích Nhat Hanh
🙏 Mo
“For things to reveal themselves to us, we need to be ready to abandon our views about them.” – Thích Nhat Hanh
🙏 Mo
Zenman said:From my simple Buddhist perspective there seems to be a lot of anger and hatred here...so sad really...everything is transient in this momentary world.
“For things to reveal themselves to us, we need to be ready to abandon our views about them.” – Thích Nhat Hanh
🙏 Mo
You do realize that you are quoting someone who was exiled from his country for opposing the war?
I don't see hatred in this thread. I see willful ignorance and the denial of facts that conflict with personal beliefs ( or wants ). Some live in a distorted tunnel vision of the past and react in a passionate defense when the walls of the tunnel begin to crack. When facts are ignored it's typically because they present a threat to understanding or values. And yes, that produces anger.
We don't need another hero. We just need an unbiased experience that produces equality for all members of this site per the guidelines.
“For things to reveal themselves to us, we need to be ready to abandon our views about them.” – Thích Nhat Hanh
🙏 Mo
You do realize that you are quoting someone who was exiled from his country for opposing the war?
I don't see hatred in this thread. I see willful ignorance and the denial of facts that conflict with personal beliefs ( or wants ). Some live in a distorted tunnel vision of the past and react in a passionate defense when the walls of the tunnel begin to crack. When facts are ignored it's typically because they present a threat to understanding or values. And yes, that produces anger.
We don't need another hero. We just need an unbiased experience that produces equality for all members of this site per the guidelines.
cold_fusion said:
I would like to also ask you a question, based on your reply to Ahavati, it sounded very much a cop out, a literal cop like reply to be honest -
point one- as I have mentioned before, perhaps you were not aware of the abusive conduct reported prior and action taken by the other Mod. I had only replied to one of Mr.Mindtrain's emotionally charged tirade that I would reply to him when he would speak like a human, his reply was 'fuck you' after a long rant against me personally. So to claim no abuse occured or reported is plainly wrong.
Point two- Here I am merely elaborating what I meant by cop-out, I will give you an example based on my own experience, I witnessed a mugging on my street, the victim ran away sobbing and the thugs ran in the other direction. I hailed a patrolling police car shortly afterwards and explained them what I witnessed, their reply - no we won't take any action unless the victim reports to us.
Your reply Sir is no different, and I expected, one of the roles of the mods is to ensure users are adhering to the terms and conditions of the website - Particularly section 4(User's Conduct ) paragraph 8 and in particular this section of that paragraph
"You may not post obscene, degrading, harassing or humiliating User Content on the Site. You may not post or transmit any false, defamatory, abusive, threatening or illegal User Content or User Content that infringes on the rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website. "
Point 3 is what I get from your reply is that anyone can abuse anyone publicly without any consequences, unless it is reported by the affected person all is ok . And the clause about the user's conduct and rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website are affected is no issue.
"either deprioritize this thread or take action against individuals who simply cannot respect others and their differences of opinions and their rights to express the same"
reads a lot like an ultimatum.
Let's be real here, you didn't get jumped by a gang of thugs. somebody aimed words at you. you're well able to respond in kind when you feel like it, or as you point out hit the report button and the offending paragraphs will be disappeared
Edit:
moderators interfere as little as possible, it has been that way now for some years. if you report something it will be reviewed.
everyone and their mother knows Mandrin can't hold a proper conversation. Yet It has been mostly you interacting with him through the threads and years bar Carpe and one or two others
Looks a lot like you came on here to have this thread de-prioritised because AV's was.
that's not how it works. you should know better.
not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden. the thread is American political which as agreed some years ago shouldn't exist, political topics should be posted here
That's why this thread was born.
I would like to also ask you a question, based on your reply to Ahavati, it sounded very much a cop out, a literal cop like reply to be honest -
point one- as I have mentioned before, perhaps you were not aware of the abusive conduct reported prior and action taken by the other Mod. I had only replied to one of Mr.Mindtrain's emotionally charged tirade that I would reply to him when he would speak like a human, his reply was 'fuck you' after a long rant against me personally. So to claim no abuse occured or reported is plainly wrong.
Point two- Here I am merely elaborating what I meant by cop-out, I will give you an example based on my own experience, I witnessed a mugging on my street, the victim ran away sobbing and the thugs ran in the other direction. I hailed a patrolling police car shortly afterwards and explained them what I witnessed, their reply - no we won't take any action unless the victim reports to us.
Your reply Sir is no different, and I expected, one of the roles of the mods is to ensure users are adhering to the terms and conditions of the website - Particularly section 4(User's Conduct ) paragraph 8 and in particular this section of that paragraph
"You may not post obscene, degrading, harassing or humiliating User Content on the Site. You may not post or transmit any false, defamatory, abusive, threatening or illegal User Content or User Content that infringes on the rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website. "
Point 3 is what I get from your reply is that anyone can abuse anyone publicly without any consequences, unless it is reported by the affected person all is ok . And the clause about the user's conduct and rights of others or the ability of others to enjoy this website are affected is no issue.
"either deprioritize this thread or take action against individuals who simply cannot respect others and their differences of opinions and their rights to express the same"
reads a lot like an ultimatum.
Let's be real here, you didn't get jumped by a gang of thugs. somebody aimed words at you. you're well able to respond in kind when you feel like it, or as you point out hit the report button and the offending paragraphs will be disappeared
Edit:
moderators interfere as little as possible, it has been that way now for some years. if you report something it will be reviewed.
everyone and their mother knows Mandrin can't hold a proper conversation. Yet It has been mostly you interacting with him through the threads and years bar Carpe and one or two others
Looks a lot like you came on here to have this thread de-prioritised because AV's was.
that's not how it works. you should know better.
not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden. the thread is American political which as agreed some years ago shouldn't exist, political topics should be posted here
That's why this thread was born.
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General chat forum for discussions not related to poetry or writing. If you want to introduce yourself please use the pinned "Introduce Yourself..." thread.
MadameLavender said:
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This thread doesn't mean that no one can start other threads, but rather to be an ongoing commentary on the political and social topics in. general or an aside to any of the other threads.
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lepperochan said:
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not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden. the thread is American political which as agreed some years ago shouldn't exist, political topics should be posted here
That's why this thread was born.
Oh! So Americans ( who are also paying members of this site ) can't start political posts?! This thread-starter disagrees with you in that other political threads can be started. So I don't know what moderators or admin "agreed" the such threads should not exist, but in case that's true, I have quoted your statement to Webmiss for clarification in case that's the point.
Abracadabra said:..."not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden"
Hole in one, Lep.
lepperochan said:
[ . . . ]you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
General chat forum for discussions not related to poetry or writing. If you want to introduce yourself please use the pinned "Introduce Yourself..." thread.
MadameLavender said:
[ . . . ]
This thread doesn't mean that no one can start other threads, but rather to be an ongoing commentary on the political and social topics in. general or an aside to any of the other threads.
[ . . . ]
lepperochan said:
[ . . . ]
not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden. the thread is American political which as agreed some years ago shouldn't exist, political topics should be posted here
That's why this thread was born.
Oh! So Americans ( who are also paying members of this site ) can't start political posts?! This thread-starter disagrees with you in that other political threads can be started. So I don't know what moderators or admin "agreed" the such threads should not exist, but in case that's true, I have quoted your statement to Webmiss for clarification in case that's the point.
Abracadabra said:..."not many people on the site give two flying fucks about Trump or Biden"
Hole in one, Lep.
lepperochan said:
[ . . . ]you don't have to either read or participate in the thread. if it offends you don't click into it
