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Ahavati
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Sex_on_the_Joe said:

I thought the Napo/WriMo was in April???


Registration is March 01 - 30. T-Minus five days until launch! Team NaPo'21 is downright giddy!

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Ahavati said:

Registration is March 01 - 30. T-Minus five days until launch! Team NaPo'21 is downright giddy!


Speak for yourself, A!

I kid. Of course! I seriously love NaPo!

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Ricky-Journals said:^ You get more views than me. Youíre doing all right. Relax.

not to be rude or anything of that sorts, but you don't have any poems under your account. i write my soul on the page with every poem, however i want to become better each time i write. i joined the deep to share my poems with people because there isn't anyone else i would feel comfortable sharing them with. this is a community based on meeting other people who enjoy poetry and being able to share your poetry and give and receive feedback. wishing for feedback isn't a bad thing as long as you are giving it too. i'm not sure why you chose to be hostile towards me with your comment when i was simply expressing myself in a totally "relaxed" manner. nevertheless, i hope you enjoy it here as much as i do and chose to be positive towards others :)

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juliagkrimmel said:

i always crave the validation that comes from comments and as you said it's a tough pill to swallow when your work doesn't get the commentary or recognition you want. i'm always wondering if my poems are even good or if people are just being kind. i wish to be a good poet, but i fear i'm not and i want to get better but without criticism and praise i'm not sure how to improve.


First and foremost; there is no such thing as a bad poem, just an inexperienced poet. Secondly, you should never doubt yourself or the type of poetry you create. This is who you are as a person and an artist. Never second guess or doubt your abilities. You can never please everyone who comes along and reads your works. It is impossible and all you will do is just end up hurting yourself and losing faith in the one thing you are passionate about. It is a sad moment when a poet allows their spirit to be broken over someone else's disapproval. Many will love what you write and many will not, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't fret over the ones who don't like or agree with your poems but be overjoyed and compassionate with the ones that do love your works. As long as you have faith and passion and a strong desire to be the best writer you can be than when you really look at it the ones who don't like you really don't matter any more. Members of the Deep will comment soon enough, and when they do it would be wise to take heed to what they have to offer especially if it is for your best interest. As a fellow writer (I'm sure I can speak for many here) we are always our worst critiques. Some poems we may write may not have that feel of completion or "good enough" to post or meet other previous poems written expectations. But you know what, that is just perfect. As long as it comes from your heart with emotion and a burning passion in your soul than it is always a Masterpiece no matter what others may think or perceive. Believe in yourself and your talents and you will be amazed at how far and how much progress you can make. Never stop writing and never allow defeat. Keep an opened heart and an opened mind and the skies are the limit that you will soar with opened arms.

Gahddess_Worship
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Comments are like Christmas gifts. I enjoy getting them but even more giving them. Why not validate, in small measure, the work of a fellow poet especially if it compels them to continue writing. I personally am grateful for the feedback be it good or constructive. I unashamedly admit to enjoying very much the comments feature in DUP if used to build and not destroy.

Sex_on_the_Joe
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DaisyGrace said:a couple of things from my tenure here (which started in 2014 i think so i ain't 'old' but i ain't a newbie):

1. i feel like this conversation comes up once every so often. i'm surprised some of the "old" members haven't commented with how it used to be "back in the day." i think the reason why some of us (me included) have stopped giving 'honest critique' is because we've been burnt  by it. and by burnt, i mean i took a long time to offer suggestions/critique on poems only to have people get BIG mad about it. whatever. people can say what they way back to me, but after multiple, MULTIPLE times of that happening, i just stopped. if i know someone can actually handle some criticism, i'll sometimes offer it up. if i don't, i'll leave a comment if i'm moved to.

but also....

2. who can offer up critique? ANYONE WHO FUCKING WANTS TO. i don't have to tell you my credentials. i come here to be mostly anonymous. so if your argument for not considering/ignoring/bashing on people who offer critique is that you don't know who they are or want to know where their best seller is...well, you do you boo. but you could possibly be passing up on some valuable insight. AND even if a person doesn't have credentials, or a best seller, doesn't meant that they can't tell you what they like or don't like about your piece. readers read what they like. so if you aren't being read, maybe you aren't writing what people want to read. (or you have an attitude and people don't read your pieces because they don't want to deal with you.) writers  become better writers through critiquing/reading/responding to others work. that's just logical.

3. regarding views: when i had my profile and poems visible to members and non members, my views were MUCH higher than they are now that i have my profile set to only be seen by members who are signed in. so it's possible your views are high, but your comments are low, because people can't comment without being a signed in member. and your pieces are possibly being read by anyone who searched for....oh, i don't know....erotic poetry.

4. it comes down to what you want your experience here to be. if you want a social experience, that is valid. if you want a "serious poet looking for serious interactions" that is valid too. If you want a mix of both...make it happen! if you are looking for actual critique, i suggest seeking it out. not just using the 'i want honest critique' function. find writers that you think are great and start getting to know them. form a relationship with them. then ask them personally if they are willing to critique.

5. just be nice.


I couldn't agree with you more. It is truly sad that some writers can't handle a harsh critique. That's just like somebody who wants to play on a basketball team but tells the coach they don't wanna run the drills required and necessary for them to compete. I always ask for honest critique with all my work because I know that there are better writers than me here on the deep. As long as it will help develop and construct certain areas of my pieces than I am always open for suggestions, especially if it is a form or genre that ai am not familiar with. Now on that note of "actively seeking it out" I never explored that option only because of the fact that I don't wanna come off as a stalker or an unwelcomed guest because the person I am in boxing doesn't know me. I kind of keep those in box messages for the people that I trust and know. That would definitely seem creepy and desperate. Lol.....

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DaisyGrace said:

Speak for yourself, A!

I kid. Of course! I seriously love NaPo!


Bwahahahahahaha!

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I don't concern myself with views because it's not clear whether anyone of the readers actually red the piece through to the end, although with Senryu/Haiku one would hope so. When someone comments you can better assume that hey read the entire piece.

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Sex_on_the_Joe said:

First and foremost; there is no such thing as a bad poem, just an inexperienced poet. Secondly, you should never doubt yourself or the type of poetry you create. This is who you are as a person and an artist. Never second guess or doubt your abilities. You can never please everyone who comes along and reads your works. It is impossible and all you will do is just end up hurting yourself and losing faith in the one thing you are passionate about. It is a sad moment when a poet allows their spirit to be broken over someone else's disapproval. Many will love what you write and many will not, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't fret over the ones who don't like or agree with your poems but be overjoyed and compassionate with the ones that do love your works. As long as you have faith and passion and a strong desire to be the best writer you can be than when you really look at it the ones who don't like you really don't matter any more. Members of the Deep will comment soon enough, and when they do it would be wise to take heed to what they have to offer especially if it is for your best interest. As a fellow writer (I'm sure I can speak for many here) we are always our worst critiques. Some poems we may write may not have that feel of completion or "good enough" to post or meet other previous poems written expectations. But you know what, that is just perfect. As long as it comes from your heart with emotion and a burning passion in your soul than it is always a Masterpiece no matter what others may think or perceive. Believe in yourself and your talents and you will be amazed at how far and how much progress you can make. Never stop writing and never allow defeat. Keep an opened heart and an opened mind and the skies are the limit that you will soar with opened arms.


thank you so much! i have found a lot of lovely people here and amazing comments that have helped me find more and more passion in poetry (if thats even possible lol)

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A grain of sugar can sweeten more than a basket filled with garlic. So with positive comments. Oral

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Sex_on_the_Joe said:

First and foremost; there is no such thing as a bad poem, just an inexperienced poet. Secondly, you should never doubt yourself or the type of poetry you create. This is who you are as a person and an artist. Never second guess or doubt your abilities. You can never please everyone who comes along and reads your works. It is impossible and all you will do is just end up hurting yourself and losing faith in the one thing you are passionate about. It is a sad moment when a poet allows their spirit to be broken over someone else's disapproval. Many will love what you write and many will not, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Don't fret over the ones who don't like or agree with your poems but be overjoyed and compassionate with the ones that do love your works. As long as you have faith and passion and a strong desire to be the best writer you can be than when you really look at it the ones who don't like you really don't matter any more. Members of the Deep will comment soon enough, and when they do it would be wise to take heed to what they have to offer especially if it is for your best interest. As a fellow writer (I'm sure I can speak for many here) we are always our worst critiques. Some poems we may write may not have that feel of completion or "good enough" to post or meet other previous poems written expectations. But you know what, that is just perfect. As long as it comes from your heart with emotion and a burning passion in your soul than it is always a Masterpiece no matter what others may think or perceive. Believe in yourself and your talents and you will be amazed at how far and how much progress you can make. Never stop writing and never allow defeat. Keep an opened heart and an opened mind and the skies are the limit that you will soar with opened arms.


In bold, truer words have never been said.

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Iíll take a comment over an RL any day of the week.  Just leaving an RL without even a short comment I find offensive.  That you had time to read the poem but didnít have the time to leave a comment is just ludicrous.  Iíve been here since 2013.  I know what this site was like and the excellence it demanded to get an RL.  I feel like some poets use the RL as some kind of Bitcoin crypto currency to buy readers and gain popularity.  That offends me too.  A comment is amazing.  I donít leave RLs unless itís miraculous writing.  Iíve recently taken to upping my ante and now leave BIG LIKES after my comments.  Several poets have already told me how much they love my comments and BIG LIKES.  

I appreciate this opportunity to express my opinion on this subject.  Itís been bothering me for awhile now.   So .......

BIG LIKE

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honestly I used to be a voracious reader and suffered from high anxiety
writing and interacting gave me a lot of peace
I try to comment and say how the poem affected me
sometimes I can't find the words
I'm not interacting much these days
I miss people I've met to the new people and poets
you are great people hang tough
seasons come and go things cycle here is no different ❤

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crimsin said:
you are great people hang tough
seasons come and go things cycle here is no different ❤


Love this, Brenda... Thank you for the reminder
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Northern_Soul said:

Ah, yes... ďBack in the dayĒ was savage... some of us remember it very well. Very few of the current pond would have survived it.

But I think it was because people were more passionate back then. Poetry meant something to the big critiquers from those years. I miss them and I donít miss them. Iíve been hurt and healed by those old critiquer guys in equal measure. So I feel that.
100%.


Sounds like in those days you needed to have some tough skin and mega balls to survive the burning tongues of the critics heh.... No sweat off my back. I have been reborn in poetry since I was a teen, few critics frightened me but heh I'll take as many lashings as needed to ensure that my writing was improving for the better. Nothing wrong with a real dose of reality.

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