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I was diagnosed with asthma when I was 3 years old. This is a picture of my medication/treatment.

the discussion I have seen on these forums about vaccination, and how the site allows people to deny them, is unacceptable.

I have been hospitalized on numerous occasions throughout my life due to my respiratory condition. My longest stay in a hospital was 3 days, where I was averaging ~40-50 breaths PER MINUTE for the first two days.

I dare anyone else to take a straw and suck on it 40-50 times per minute for two days and tell me how that feels.

Anyone who is denying COVID-19 is so blessed to never have experienced what it feels like to be suffocating on your own esophagus.

Because of my condition, I was forced to change my entire lifestyle to be fitness minded just so I can be healthy enough to minimize my symptoms. I exercise several days a week out of necessity, meanwhile we allow a bunch of armchair physicians and naturopaths to spread false information and fringe conspiracies.

It is a regular thought to me that I am fortunate enough to be alive in an age where we have access to such sophisticated medicine, because if I were alive during any other time period before the late 70s, my chances of survival would have been quartered or halved.

Anti-vaxers are some of the most entitled assholes I have ever met.

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fiveamtuesday said:I was diagnosed with asthma when I was 3 years old. This is a picture of my medication/treatment.

the discussion I have seen on these forums about vaccination, and how the site allows people to deny them, is unacceptable.


Nothing is more dangerous than silence.

“Silence is violence” - BLM


I have been hospitalized on numerous occasions throughout my life due to my respiratory condition. My longest stay in a hospital was 3 days, where I was averaging ~40-50 breaths PER MINUTE for the first two days.

I dare anyone else to take a straw and suck on it 40-50 times per minute for two days and tell me how that feels.


To say that to someone who has seen an adult sufferer of vaccine damage in daily pain, sometimes too dizzy to even walk to the bathroom, have compassion yourself!

Nerve damage is a thing, just like immune system damage, sometimes going hand-in-hand after vaccines. I’m a witness. Sue me.

Anyone who is denying COVID-19 is so blessed to never have experienced what it feels like to be suffocating on your own esophagus.

Who does THAT?

The hoax is the reaction. Even the pandemic of testing a-symptomatic non-spreaders.

Because of my condition, I was forced to change my entire lifestyle to be fitness minded just so I can be healthy enough to minimize my symptoms. I exercise several days a week out of necessity, meanwhile we allow a bunch of armchair physicians and naturopaths to spread false information and fringe conspiracies.

It is a regular thought to me that I am fortunate enough to be alive in an age where we have access to such sophisticated medicine, because if I were alive during any other time period before the late 70s, my chances of survival would have been quartered or halved.

Anti-vaxers are some of the most entitled assholes I have ever met.


Says the man who doesn’t watch a vaccine sufferer talk himself into being okay LIVING with irreversible daily symptoms. 😟

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sorry tues. good luck with it.

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5amTues,

I don't consider my self an an entitled Anti Vaxer asshole because I am not taking the vaccine (just yet).

I had two throat surgeries, including a tracheotomy, that left me flat on my back for ten days straight breathing
through a tube in my throat. I got a slight idea of what waterboarding is like when negligent nurses cleaned the mucous out
of the tube in my throat so I would not "drown" in my own mucous, which I came close to doing, since they
were nowhere to be found at times. The pain after surgery was unbearable. I thank all The all the science gods
for Morphine.

What did I have: an extremely rare disease that only someone with a compromised immune system gets.  All
began with a molar extraction that a few days later left me looking like a bullfrog and unable to breath.
Doctors didn't know what had for days. It was an extreme case of Ludwig's Angina.

Am I taking the Vaccine: NO.

I have never had a flu shot in my life. I rarely catch a cold. I believe I had Covid when it hit NYC late January/March 2020. Never
experienced any flu or cold like it. Knocked me out for more than a month. Had I been drinking and smoking like I had in my younger days,
who knows what would have happened to me.

I like thinking I have the antibodies and I have gotten tested twice in the last month, just yesterday as a matter of fact.

I wear a double mask and stay away from people, especially indoors. Except for what I caught last January/March, I haven't had
a sniffle.

Trust me, if I see you coming at me without a mask, I cross the street and let you have your way. I want you to be
vaccinated and wear a mask and stay the fuck away from me. Call me a hypocrite, if you'd like.  

I believe this could have been managed a year ago without shutting down the economy so badly
ago if people just wore a mask and kept their distance, for the most part, plain and simple. Not complicated.

But as you know we have terrible leadership in the WH and people insist on not wearing masks and staying
away from you. I wanted to slap the shit out of a pack of adolescent boys not wearing masks that
walked up on me a while back.  I've learned to see assholes coming early and cross the street.

NYC got hit hard and early.

Bottom line: I want you to take the vaccine and stay away from me. I'll continue to wear a mask
and stay away from from you, and wash my hands a couple times a day. You have nothing to fear
from me.

Wish you the best,
Peace,
A







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EdibleWords said:
Penicillin Allergy is a real thing, but that doesn't mean the efficacy of Penicillin should be denied. The same goes with vaccination.

Sorry you have to bear witness to the rare fringe case edible, but that's the fault of genetic make-up and not the vaccine itself.

Vaccines work and testing builds data for reference and research.

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Andres__Castro said:

Ask your doctor about COVID vaccines and what their ingredients are. They can help you decide if your condition is safe to interact with it.

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fiveamtuesday said:
the discussion I have seen on these forums about vaccination, and how the site allows people to deny them, is unacceptable.


On the bright side, the arguments against vaccs are not that compelling to deter anyone. So it all works out in the end.

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fiveamtuesday said:
Penicillin Allergy is a real thing, but that doesn't mean the efficacy of Penicillin should be denied. The same goes with vaccination.


When my “penicillin denier” daughter had an infection she explained she could not have penicillin because her parents are allergic. Long story short, she was bullied into taking it and DID end up having a scary reaction.

This is why informed consent should be part of the conversation.

Sorry you have to bear witness to the rare fringe case edible, but that's the fault of genetic make-up and not the vaccine itself.

Many soldiers had Gulf War syndrome from their vaccines. Some even had children with heart defects and the like. Look at their rates of ALS, as well. It’s terrible.

Vaccines work and testing builds data for reference and research.

And informed consent builds peace.

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fiveamtuesday said:
Ask your doctor about COVID vaccines and what their ingredients are. They can help you decide if your condition is safe to interact with it.

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Ask my doctor what?   My "condition"? You lost me.

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JohnnyBlaze said:

On the bright side, the arguments against vaccs are not that compelling to deter anyone. So it all works out in the end.

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J.B.

The very very last thing I would like to do is present an argument against taking the vaccine.

If anyone interprets my post above as an argument for not taking the vaccine, they are missing
my intentions for the spill above and the Haiku I just posted.

The reality is that many many people will indeed not take the Vaccine. I would prefer that they
do everything else possible to keep from getting sick and getting others sick.

Peace,
A




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JohnnyBlaze said:

On the bright side, the arguments against vaccs are not that compelling to deter anyone. So it all works out in the end.


The important thing to me is that those who WANT information can freely decide to investigate without suppression.

Those who love truth will find it, just as those who love lies will become delusional.

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EdibleWords said:

When my “penicillin denier” daughter had an infection she explained she could not have penicillin because her parents are allergic. Long story short, she was bullied into taking it and DID end up having a scary reaction.

This is why informed consent should be part of the conversation. .

It's not the vaccine's fault if someone knew their own risk factor and took it anyway. That just means the treatment worked as intended, and the results shouldn't have been a surprise.

Many soldiers had Gulf War syndrome from their vaccines. Some even had children with heart defects and the like. Look at their rates of ALS, as well. It’s terrible. Military programs around the world are notorious for experimenting with drug treatments on soldiers. They literally sign waivers that disclose this.

Context matters. If you're only looking at the mean data for something like PTSD it's scary. When you break down the population within the group, it starts to make more sense.

This is why testing matters, so we can build context.

And informed consent builds peace. When you get vaccinated you have to sign a waiver and they give you an information sheet that tells you everything from symptoms to it's ingredients. You are free to say no at anytime before you receive it.


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fiveamtuesday said: When you get vaccinated you have to sign a waiver and they give you an information sheet that tells you everything from symptoms to it's ingredients. You are free to say no at anytime before you receive it.



Ok...

INFORMED CONSENT means free access to personally investigate all sides of a discussion, and any relevant information or opinions, agreed?


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