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Andres__Castro
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ED, JB,  

Best we put that all aside, as looks like more of the same ole same ole I've noticed on other threads

I was hoping to do something different.

This not the place for these minor squabbles. Maybe later down the road when we are
sure of what we want happening on this thread.

We haven't even gotten a commitment from anyone to follow my lead and guidelines yet.

Peace,
A

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Andres__Castro said:ED, JB,  

Best we put that all aside, as looks like more of the same ole same ole I've noticed on other threads

I was hoping to do something different.

This not the place for these minor squabbles. Maybe later down the road when we are
sure of what we want happening on this thread.

We haven't even gotten a commitment from anyone to follow my lead and guidelines yet.

Peace,
A


This was and still is not squabbling, but a direct response to your comment about me not being interested. Someone else squabbled about it afterwards.

JohnnyBlaze said:

Other than using credible information to clear up misconceptions about the movement, I don't see much to discuss.

If humans are enslaved, I'm all for trespassing and destruction of property to liberate them.

If they are being physically abused and tortured, non lethal violence is an appropriate response during the liberation - we have the technology and know how these days to accomplish such.

Violence and destruction of property in any other situation with the exceptions of self defense or thwarting genocides accomplishes nothing.

Persons identifying with ANTIFA and behaving like Trump supporters beating police officers ( to death ) should immediately turn themselves into authorities and seek mental therapy.

Also, I pray their balls magically fall off so they don't reproduce.


You can still put it aside if you so choose to.

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Is it ANTIFA? Andy Gno thinks so.

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Andres-
We haven't even gotten a commitment from anyone to follow my lead and guidelines yet.


Now this is odd
Maybe  on another site  you have experienced a different way to participate concerning social media forum threads

As far as I can tell the only ones who COMMIT to threads are the hosts
then again the hosts don't always commit.

We are a group of people who have real life  commitments, home,  jobs,  families who happen to have a passion for reading and writing poetry .
We participate in the forums when we choose to
 if we feel we have something to say or feel we need to be heard
If it is interesting we will chime in

is this some kind of test are you taking notes Andres are we the subjects for your journaling or entertainment


You're boxing us in bro




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Stay tuned. Will be with you soon.

I encourage new visitors to review the thread,
general guidelines, and informational links:
Will give an idea of where this thread is.

For those in the U.S: Hoping for a good Martin Luther King Day tomorrow.

Peace,
Andres

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A domestic terrorist organization that has looted and rioted, burned down cities, destroyed small businesses, and beaten, maimed, and murdered people for the last several years.

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Taurek, if this is your real name.

We'll be starting a conversation on this thread
sooner rather than later.

You have a big box to write in right now: why don't you get it all out now
so you
don't jump in to interrupt later with one liners
then run off again ?

Peace,
A


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As the site itself declares , Andre , you trespass on others rights...

Why don't you grow up ?

Or , due to your stupidity , are you unable to do so ?

Is it innate mental derangement , or studied stupidity ?

Respectfully submitted , yet deserved...

Peace , Blackwolf...

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a note on your thread guidelines;

a) you say thanks for playing so cheerfully and then deny you are playing a game at all

b) you needle and insult on a personal basis unrelated to post content, and then say peace

if the ability to hold two contradictory ideas simultaneously without going mad is truly a sign of genius, i doff my hat to you sir

if you find yourself perplexed i suggest a visit to the plexers

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Blackwolf said:As the site itself declares , Andre , you trespass on others rights...

Why don't you grow up ?

Or , due to your stupidity , are you unable to do so ?

Is it innate mental derangement , or studied stupidity ?

Respectfully submitted , yet deserved...

Peace , Blackwolf...


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anna_grin said:a note on your thread guidelines;

a) you say thanks for playing so cheerfully and then deny you are playing a game at all

b) you needle and insult on a personal basis unrelated to post content, and then say peace

if the ability to hold two contradictory ideas simultaneously without going mad is truly a sign of genius, i doff my hat to you sir

if you find yourself perplexed i suggest a visit to the plexers


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Ahavati/JB/Anna/Val, BW, T, all,


Ahhh, I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.

Happy for my phone: so easy to take a peek at this thread when I go out and about. The peeks here and there made me smile over the weekend. Then too, I feel responsible for the well-being of this thread, so…..

Yep, I would like to put any squabbling aside and away from the work of this thread. Probably impossible to do all the time, but a bare minimum would be nice. I definitely want to keep random people who are not serious about trying to help me and the thread from jumping on to shoot off random barrages and disappearing until the next time they get the urge. That will be a problem.

At this point, I would like anyone interested, especially newcomers to DUP to take a look get at the starter information including the Rogan/Feinstein interview (Just click the link). Again, there is no hurry.

The immediate task I see is getting people onboard with some kind of commitment to consistently return to this thread with useful information and to join in a respectful conversation.

And so, everybody has said what they wanted to say. Nice. Whatever was written will remain for anyone interested, unless retracted or mysteriously disappears. Nice again. I enjoy reviewing progressions.

I will share one brief opinion: yep, it is a bad idea for a single ANTIFA supporter to hurt anybody, unless unjustifiably attacked. They should definitely not burn down any neighborhood liquor stores to make a point…this would be a crime against humanity.

Palanté, Siempré Palante

Peace,
A

P.S. Seems to me, that if anyone doesn’t want to see what is going on on this thread, they should just not come back to it. Apparently, I did not start if for them. It is not for them. Stay away. Won’t hurt my feelings. It’s what I do with other people’s threads. Works for me. This will avoid my triggering anyone and anyone trying to trigger me.

DUP old hands and especially those new to DUP, just let me know if you are interested in joining in the serious play of learning about a serious subject during serious times.


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Thread Introduction

“Off the cuff opinions are unstoppable but would prefer anything posted to be backed by highly and widely respected journalists and authors. For example: I would respect the BBC more than Fox News. I would respect the work of authors/journalists who have peer reviewed articles and books on Antifa over those who never did any scholarly work or appeared in major newspapers and magazines. Things pulled from YouTube, twitter, Facebook, does not do it for me. As far as I know ANTIFA has a long history and people who support it fall on a spectrum....a spectrum with a quickly growing number of 20 to 40 somethings...who happen to be out of work with narrowing prospects and choking student loans.”


Updated information leads.  Thank you for your links Ahavati, Johnny B, Dhyana.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534192/

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/expert-andy-ngo-it-wasnt-antifa-at-the-capitol-riots
https://www.centerstreet.com/titles/andy-ngo/unmasked/9781549131981/
Background on info source:      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo

Background on info source: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo

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https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2020/10/30/unmasking-antifa-in-new-book-experts-expose-ideology-tactics-and-fundraising-of-rapidly-growing-threat-to-american-security/

Background on info source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Security_Policy
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Don’t really want to post a Joe Rogan Youtube video, but Eric Weinstein presents a model on far left (ANTIFA) and far right (PROUD BOYS) extremist groups that I see as a possible conversation starter for some who want to take this thread seriously. I see Rogan as a slightly left of center podcaster that appeals to a male adolescent to 45 demographic and Weinstein as an intellectual centrist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fup7Fcs7UM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weinstein

* I regret posting this Youtube video.  Trying to stay away from these and could have picked something much better with more
credible voices and experts on the topic.

* Added another info link on Andy Ngo above: he's not looking so good.

* And the Center For Security Policy's background and work does not look so hot either.
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Looking forward.



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I don’t have proof but a strong suspicion that ANTIFA is just a bunch of grifting “offense contractors” - (yup, made that word up.)

And why? Because first they worked for PETA. Now BLM has had issues w/them. I know they serve someone’s interests. It ain’t for the People. It’s not to make social justice warriors able to connect with people emotionally...

Whatever’s up... the cause is just for show.

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EdibleWords said:I don’t have proof but a strong suspicion that ANTIFA is just a bunch of grifting “offense contractors” - (yup, made that word up.)

And why? Because first they worked for PETA. Now BLM has had issues w/them. I know they serve someone’s interests. It ain’t for the People. It’s not to make social justice warriors able to connect with people emotionally...

Whatever’s up... the cause is just for show.

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